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Jan 16, 2019 09:23:49   #
Rose42
 
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/fatah-coming-soon-believe-it-or-not-islamic-party-of-ontario

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Jan 16, 2019 09:49:25   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
And, coming soon to a neighborhood near you*.
--Bob

* I realize this is a grammatical issue of the indefinite 'you'. The 'you' was in no way intended to address you personally, Rose.

Rose42 wrote:
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/fatah-coming-soon-believe-it-or-not-islamic-party-of-ontario

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Jan 16, 2019 10:02:51   #
Rose42
 
rmalarz wrote:
And, coming soon to a neighborhood near you*.
--Bob

* I realize this is a grammatical issue of the indefinite 'you'. The 'you' was in no way intended to address you personally, Rose.


No worries. I am not a member of the grammar police.

It is inching its way here.

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Jan 16, 2019 10:09:55   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
That would definitely be a concern to anyone who is cognizant. One only has to read about how Islam has worked throughout history.

Unfortunately, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana
--Bob

Rose42 wrote:
No worries. I am not a member of the grammar police.

It is inching its way here.

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Jan 16, 2019 10:18:02   #
kd7eir Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
Anwar appears to be the party’s only member and that he has an otherwise low profile which has only been bolstered by recent media attention. That status, coupled with the fact that “Islamic Party of Ontario” isn’t even a registered political organization in the Canadian province, suggests that the threat it allegedly poses is greatly exaggerated.

In an email responding to questions we sent him, Anwar told us that he meets with a board monthly and he is the elected leader.

According to public records, Anwar has only reserved the party’s name with E******ns Ontario, which the agency approved on 9 October 2018. That means the Islamic Party of Ontario is as near to becoming an official political organization in Ontario as the UFO Party, the Fundamentalists United party, and the “Roman Empire.”

Anyone can reserve a name for a potential organization, just as anyone can form a political party. That doesn’t automatically confer clout or power on that organization, columnist and author Michael Coren told us by phone. “It’s not an issue or a threat in any way,” he said.

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Jan 16, 2019 10:26:40   #
Rose42
 
kd7eir wrote:
Anwar appears to be the party’s only member and that he has an otherwise low profile which has only been bolstered by recent media attention. That status, coupled with the fact that “Islamic Party of Ontario” isn’t even a registered political organization in the Canadian province, suggests that the threat it allegedly poses is greatly exaggerated.

In an email responding to questions we sent him, Anwar told us that he meets with a board monthly and he is the elected leader.

According to public records, Anwar has only reserved the party’s name with E******ns Ontario, which the agency approved on 9 October 2018. That means the Islamic Party of Ontario is as near to becoming an official political organization in Ontario as the UFO Party, the Fundamentalists United party, and the “Roman Empire.”

Anyone can reserve a name for a potential organization, just as anyone can form a political party. That doesn’t automatically confer clout or power on that organization, columnist and author Michael Coren told us by phone. “It’s not an issue or a threat in any way,” he said.
Anwar appears to be the party’s only member and th... (show quote)


Sharia law has been authorized in Ontario for civil arbitrations if both parties consent. That was passed in 1991. It's creeping it's way in.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/life-under-sharia-in-canada/article743980/

We have to stay vigilant.

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Jan 16, 2019 10:53:38   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Rose42 wrote:
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/fatah-coming-soon-believe-it-or-not-islamic-party-of-ontario


This looks like a metric ton of good ole fashioned fear mongering. Fatah has been involved in challenging the extreme Muslim loonies from his home country (Pakistan) he does have a personal agenda. I don't know if some his claims are true (the cab driver story, for example) they are certainly unsubstantiated.

Think about it. What are the chances of such a party gaining enough support in the Canadian Parliament to be able to t***sform Canada (Canada!) into an Islamic terrorist state? Slim and none and Slim just left town.

There are a number of politically active muslims in Dearborn Michigan. They have not turned Michigan into a terrorist state, have they?

Its time to stop hyperventilating--painting all Muslims with the same brush. Because I am a Christian, that does not make me a Klansman, does it?

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Jan 16, 2019 10:59:37   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Fear mongering is all it is.

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Jan 16, 2019 11:00:45   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Rose42 wrote:
Sharia law has been authorized in Ontario for civil arbitrations if both parties consent. That was passed in 1991. It's creeping it's way in.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/life-under-sharia-in-canada/article743980/

We have to stay vigilant.


Civil disputes. And if both parties consent to arbitration. Sharia law is not going to get you off for an honor k*****g or any other criminal matter.

Besides, if two neighbors get into a squabble over a fruit tree overh*****g a property line, why do you care haw they settle it?

This is not the slippery slope of your imagination.

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Jan 16, 2019 11:56:13   #
Rose42
 
Bazbo wrote:
Civil disputes. And if both parties consent to arbitration. Sharia law is not going to get you off for an honor k*****g or any other criminal matter.

Besides, if two neighbors get into a squabble over a fruit tree overh*****g a property line, why do you care haw they settle it?

This is not the slippery slope of your imagination.


It isn't my imagination. History proves it isn't.

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Jan 16, 2019 12:06:29   #
Rose42
 
Bazbo wrote:
This looks like a metric ton of good ole fashioned fear mongering. Fatah has been involved in challenging the extreme Muslim loonies from his home country (Pakistan) he does have a personal agenda. I don't know if some his claims are true (the cab driver story, for example) they are certainly unsubstantiated.

Think about it. What are the chances of such a party gaining enough support in the Canadian Parliament to be able to t***sform Canada (Canada!) into an Islamic terrorist state? Slim and none and Slim just left town.

There are a number of politically active muslims in Dearborn Michigan. They have not turned Michigan into a terrorist state, have they?
This looks like a metric ton of good ole fashioned... (show quote)


No fear mongering. Reality check. It never happens overnight. It didn't happen overnight in Europe and though its a slow growth its still a cancer over there. In the US people always make excuses for islam and gives muslims special treatment. For example cartoons of their prophet Mohammed were met with outrage - even by Bill Clinton. Yet there is no such outrage for any other religion.

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Its time to stop hyperventilating--painting all Muslims with the same brush. Because I am a Christian, that does not make me a Klansman, does it?


Its not the individuals its the religion itself.

Christianity has nothing to do with the KKK. Calling oneself Christian doesn't make one Christian just as a male pretending to be female is still a male.

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Jan 16, 2019 18:56:26   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Rose42 wrote:
Its not the individuals its the religion itself.

Christianity has nothing to do with the KKK. Calling oneself Christian doesn't make one Christian just as a male pretending to be female is still a male.


So you are suggesting that Muslims not be allowed to be politically active? Current Muslim members if Congress and other elected official should resign immediately because of their religion? Have you read the Establishment Clause?

The Klan seems to think that they are Christians:
https://www.christianpost.com/news/kkk-leader-were-a-christian-organization-claims-the-klan-is-not-a-h**e-group.html

Also, please explain the burning crosses.

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Jan 17, 2019 08:50:28   #
Rose42
 
Bazbo wrote:
So you are suggesting that Muslims not be allowed to be politically active? Current Muslim members if Congress and other elected official should resign immediately because of their religion? Have you read the Establishment Clause?

The Klan seems to think that they are Christians:
https://www.christianpost.com/news/kkk-leader-were-a-christian-organization-claims-the-klan-is-not-a-h**e-group.html

Also, please explain the burning crosses.


I'm not suggesting they resign but that we be watchful and not allow Islam to creep into our government. Tlaib is an anti-Semite which Isn't a good sign.

The klan can make all the claims they want. That doesn't make them Christian - their words and actions show otherwise. Hitler also claimed to be a Christian but wasn't.

It's interesting to note that people falsely claim Christianity rather than other religions to further an agenda. That's because the gods of other religions have no power - that's why people don't swear by the name of Allah or other gods.

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Jan 17, 2019 10:09:00   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Rose42 wrote:
I'm not suggesting they resign but that we be watchful and not allow Islam to creep into our government. Tlaib is an anti-Semite which Isn't a good sign.

The klan can make all the claims they want. That doesn't make them Christian - their words and actions show otherwise. Hitler also claimed to be a Christian but wasn't.

It's interesting to note that people falsely claim Christianity rather than other religions to further an agenda. That's because the gods of other religions have no power - that's why people don't swear by the name of Allah or other gods.
I'm not suggesting they resign but that we be watc... (show quote)


You:

"I'm not suggesting they resign but that we be watchful and not allow Islam to creep into our government. Tlaib is an anti-Semite which Isn't a good sign."

That statement is prejudicial and in direct contravention of the Establishment Clause. Of course you can exercise your fears and prejudices through the b****t box but if you implying anything else then that would be unconstitutional, and frankly, Un-American. On the other hand, prejudice and fear are as American as apple pie.

You:
"The klan can make all the claims they want. That doesn't make them Christian - their words and actions show otherwise. Hitler also claimed to be a Christian but wasn't."

Every Muslim I know (its probably a good bet that I know a lot more than you because of the nature of the business I am in) would say the exactly the same thing about ISIS.

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Jan 17, 2019 10:26:14   #
Rose42
 
Bazbo wrote:
You:

"I'm not suggesting they resign but that we be watchful and not allow Islam to creep into our government. Tlaib is an anti-Semite which Isn't a good sign."

That statement is prejudicial and in direct contravention of the Establishment Clause. Of course you can exercise your fears and prejudices through the b****t box but if you implying anything else then that would be unconstitutional, and frankly, Un-American. On the other hand, prejudice and fear are as American as apple pie.
You: br br "I'm not suggesting they resign b... (show quote)


It's not based on fear nor is it prejudiced. Those labels don't apply. Reality is neither. I don't fear them.

As for the Establishment Clause, no it's not against that either to watch a religion that has proven over history and currently, that it has a corrosive effect in society.

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You:
"The klan can make all the claims they want. That doesn't make them Christian - their words and actions show otherwise. Hitler also claimed to be a Christian but wasn't."

Every Muslim I know (its probably a good bet that I know a lot more than you because of the nature of the business I am in) would say the exactly the same thing about ISIS.


I doubt you know more than I've known. I worked with them for years. Most muslims don't know the koran or follow it closely. If they did we'd be in a lot more trouble. As for ISIS it doesn't matter for the koran says either non-believers must convert or they should be k**led. The source of islamic terrorism is the koran itself and there are numerous verses that support it.

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