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Jan 14, 2019 17:56:54   #
MikeFast
 
Hand hold almost all the time. In the field it is easier to move around. It does help to lean against a tree or the truck to help steady the lens.

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Jan 14, 2019 18:25:42   #
fishy
 
98% tripod with 300mm f2.8 and a few teleconverters. I have a Wimberly gimbal mount. The feather details and not having to support a lens when I want to put it down are great reasons for a tripod. The monopod has to be supported. The gimbal mount makes the whole thing work very well. Yes I can get good shots hand held down to 1/200 sec with it at 600mm f5.6 but it's always going to be better, much better with a good tripod. Flight shots are better for me with a tripod. I have a carbon monopod that does not get any love. My usual hike is between 2 and 3 miles and at 67 I'm really really lucky I can still lug that stuff around like I do. Carry it on my shoulder. I maintain that no matter how good IBIS and IS is I'm still going to get a better picture with a tripod. YMMV and most of my friends don't carry one.

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Jan 14, 2019 18:28:25   #
ClarkJohnson Loc: Fort Myers, FL and Cohasset, MA
 
Depends on the situation and lens. If I can sit in one spot where you might have to wait for the action to come to you, a tripod and gimbal is the way to go. Otherwise, I use a monopod with Sirui “feet” and a ball head. This setup provides support and portability. And, for a stroll on the beach, handheld is the way to go. I have gotten keepers each way.

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Jan 14, 2019 18:42:15   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 

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Jan 14, 2019 18:44:24   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 

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Jan 14, 2019 18:45:07   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
Gene51 wrote:
These are some examples of birds shot hand held with a 150-600mm (or equivalent field of view). The 600mm shots are with either a D800 or D810. The equivalent field of view is with a Sony RX10M4.



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Jan 14, 2019 18:45:52   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Yes... sometimes.

I shoot hand held, on a monopod, on a tripod with gimbal, or with the camera and lens on a bean bag resting on a windowsill or whatever.

It depends upon the lens I'm using, how mobile I need to be, how far I'll be walking... It also depends upon the subject and how I'll be shooting them.

For example, when hiking and not wanting to haul 9 lb. of tripod and gimbal head, I'll often take a monopod. It doubles well as a "walking stick", too, when the camera isn't mounted on it. I use a monopod mostly with lenses that have tripod mounting rings (70-200, 300mm, 100-400mm, 500mm... also macro 100mm and 180mm).

For birds in flight, I mostly shoot hand held (2 to 3 lb. 70-200, 3 lb. 300mm f/4, 3.5 lb. 100-400mm).

When shooting from a blind and spending a lot of time sitting and waiting, I usually put the gear on a tripod (especially with 6 lb. 300mm f/2.8, 8 lb. 500mm f/4, possibly with 1.4X or 2X teleconverter... but also sometimes with 100-400, 300mm f/4 and 70-200).

Shooting from a car or while lying prone on the ground, I often use a bean bag (any lens/camera combo). In fact, I leave a beanbag in my car, along with one of my monopods.

Hand held (with 300mm f/2.8, 300mm f/4 & 100-400):




Bean bag/car window (300mm f/2.8):



Monopod (300mm & 500mm):



Tripod w/gimbal (500mm and 500mm w/1.4X):

Yes... sometimes. br br I shoot hand held, on a ... (show quote)



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Jan 14, 2019 19:01:47   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Gene51 wrote:
These are some examples of birds shot hand held with a 150-600mm (or equivalent field of view). The 600mm shots are with either a D800 or D810. The equivalent field of view is with a Sony RX10M4.


Gene,

Your photos are impressive. Thanks for posting them. Also impressive is that the last one was shot with the Sony bridge camera.

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Jan 14, 2019 19:38:16   #
TMurphy71
 
Any time I have my camera and I am walking in the woods, I take my graphite monopod. It is a really great walking stick and there if I need it.

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Jan 14, 2019 20:16:02   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
davyboy wrote:
Sorry to high jack this thread but my God that red wing black bird pic is something else WOW


- I agree....best of the bunch - if I were an egotist, like Gene, I would post some also - but, I am not ....

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Jan 14, 2019 20:49:44   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
fishy wrote:
98% tripod with 300mm f2.8 and a few teleconverters. I have a Wimberly gimbal mount. The feather details and not having to support a lens when I want to put it down are great reasons for a tripod. The monopod has to be supported. The gimbal mount makes the whole thing work very well. Yes I can get good shots hand held down to 1/200 sec with it at 600mm f5.6 but it's always going to be better, much better with a good tripod. Flight shots are better for me with a tripod. I have a carbon monopod that does not get any love. My usual hike is between 2 and 3 miles and at 67 I'm really really lucky I can still lug that stuff around like I do. Carry it on my shoulder. I maintain that no matter how good IBIS and IS is I'm still going to get a better picture with a tripod. YMMV and most of my friends don't carry one.
98% tripod with 300mm f2.8 and a few teleconverter... (show quote)


Ok, this is not a bird, but it was taken hand held with a 600mm lens at 1/25 sec - and it's heavily cropped. It's a testament to the quality of Sigma's stabilization system (and a subject that didn't move). I am also 67, but I took these when I was 65.


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Jan 14, 2019 20:53:02   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
I use a monopod. I go to places where I'm able to get out of the car on a dirt road and shoot. In the valley there isn't a lot of woods excepting around the river bottom. It's a lot easier to carry around and set up than a tripod and almost as stable.

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Jan 14, 2019 20:57:54   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
imagemeister wrote:
- I agree....best of the bunch - if I were an egotist, like Gene, I would post some also - but, I am not ....


Larry, you are an egotist, just like me - and not posting is not an indication that you aren't, btw. But you are a pretty good bird photographer in spite of yourself. At least I admit I am a showman, and I am not ashamed to say so - but most good photographers are showmen/women - no need to hide when you are good at what you do. As you know, the technique is easy to acquire - but the knowledge of where to be to get the shot, and the patience to wait for it, well that is what separates the men from the boys/women from the girls, don't you agree?

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Jan 14, 2019 20:58:39   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
bsprague wrote:
Gene,

Your photos are impressive. Thanks for posting them. Also impressive is that the last one was shot with the Sony bridge camera.


Thanks!

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Jan 14, 2019 21:42:49   #
AJFRED Loc: Alabama
 
What is your walk around outfit?

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