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Jan 22, 2019 19:22:38   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Bipod wrote:
On most forums, you'd be kicked off for repeatedly posting an image, UserID.


Actually, you would have been gone a long time ago on any other forum. You repeat the same BS.

How many times

1 - have you accused people being employed by canikon/Sony/Olympus etc...

2 - make outrageous claims about these “””miniature””” formats like they take fuzzy pictures, pixelation etc...?

You are a troll if I have ever seen one. Who joins a photography forum and refuses to post a picture, while you disrespect the whole community. You May feel superior to everyone else, but that is nothing special, it is just a mental illness. Unfortunately you are not the only one suffering from it.

The good news is that most of them get banned sooner or later. Your day will also come.

You are the abuser, you may want to look in the mirror and see the real issue.

Be nice to people. They are your equal.

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Jan 22, 2019 23:18:00   #
Bipod
 
tdekany wrote:
All I can go by is what you write. Do you actually take pictures? I seriously doubt it. But to be honest, who really cares.

Apparently you do, tdekany--very, very much. Enough to talk about it constantly.

One can only wonder why...

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Jan 22, 2019 23:37:19   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Bipod wrote:
Apparently you do, tdekany--very, very much. Enough to talk about it constantly.

One can only wonder why...


Keep trolling and I’ll point it out to you...

Why not post a picture? What are you really afraid of?

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Jan 23, 2019 10:55:41   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
What the hell are you talking about.?


Why are you so rude. Most here are gentlemen. Are you trolling??

"What the hell am I talking about". Batteries and cameras.
What kind of camera do you have? Sony uses the same batteries
in a whole bunch of their good cameras. One comes with purchase.
And their are reasonable 3rd party batteries which I recommend.

I have a lot of experience and share it when I can be helpful.

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Jan 29, 2019 12:57:32   #
Bipod
 
tdekany wrote:
Keep trolling and I’ll point it out to you...

Why not post a picture? What are you really afraid of?

This is the guy who thinks he can make beautiful 36" x 24" prints with his Micro Four Thrids camera.

Maybe he should have his eyes checked?

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Jan 29, 2019 19:53:03   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Bipod wrote:
This is the guy who thinks he can make beautiful 36" x 24" prints with his Micro Four Thrids camera.

Maybe he should have his eyes checked?


Just shows how out of touch you are with what is going on with today’s technology.


http://ctein.com - contact him if you want to learn. But we all know that isn’t why you are here.

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Jan 29, 2019 21:05:28   #
Bipod
 
tdekany wrote:
Just shows how out of touch you are with what is going on with today’s technology.

http://ctein.com - contact him if you want to learn. But we all know that isn’t why you are here.

I'm familiar with Ctein's wonderful dye transfer prints. He kept making them even after Kodak
stopped making dye transfer materials -- he says "I installed deep-freezers in my home and took the
unprecedented step of purchasing a multi-year supply of the necessary films, dyes, papers and chemicals.
I finally stopped making dye transfer prints in 2014". http://ctein.com/whoami.htm

So much for "keeping up with technology".

His Ultrachrome digital prints are a different matter. But hey, Michael Jordan played minor
league baseball for a while...

Here is Ctein's favorable review of a book on toy camera's, Plastic Cameras: Toying with
Creativity
by Michelle Bates.
http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2007/01/book-review-plastic-cameras-toying_03.html

I confess, I haven't read the book. But I have used a lot of cheap cameras. The best thing about
plastic cameras (such as the wretched Holga--light leaks and all) is that it's a cheap way to shoot
medium format.

As for Micro Four Thirds:

Four Thirds format: 17.3 x 13 mm
Kodak 110 catridge film: 17.0 x 13 mm

What you got there, tdekany, is a digitial Pocket Instamatic! (Though the Panasonic's are nicely
made and priced to sell -- a good choice for some people who don't need to print large.)



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Jan 29, 2019 21:56:34   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Bipod wrote:
I'm familiar with Ctein's wonderful dye transfer prints. He kept making them even after Kodak
stopped making dye transfer materials -- he says "I installed deep-freezers in my home and took the
unprecedented step of purchasing a multi-year supply of the necessary films, dyes, papers and chemicals.
I finally stopped making dye transfer prints in 2014". http://ctein.com/whoami.htm

So much for "keeping up with technology".

His Ultrachrome digital prints are a different matter. But hey, Michael Jordan played minor
league baseball for a while...

Here is Ctein's favorable review of a book on toy camera's, Plastic Cameras: Toying with
Creativity
by Michelle Bates.
http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2007/01/book-review-plastic-cameras-toying_03.html

I confess, I haven't read the book. But I have used a lot of cheap cameras. The best thing about
plastic cameras (such as the wretched Holga--light leaks and all) is that it's a cheap way to shoot
medium format.

As for Micro Four Thirds:

Four Thirds format: 17.3 x 13 mm
Kodak 110 catridge film: 17.0 x 13 mm

What you got there, tdekany, is a digitial Pocket Instamatic! (Though the Panasonic's are nicely
made and priced to sell -- a good choice for some people who don't need to print large.)
I'm familiar with Ctein's wonderful dye transfer p... (show quote)


He uses a m4/3 EM5 Mark2 and if you are indeed familiar with his work, you would know how highly he thinks of the hi res feature. I won’t waste your time making you contact him. Here is one of the things he says about printing from the EM5 Mark2 64mp files

Quote:
I'd feel comfortable printing the EM5 mII's high-res files at any size. I've only done prints up to 24" x 32" image area but they looked excellent, even at close examination. Seeing as one doesn't normally press one's nose against 30 x 40" and larger prints, I don't think there's any limit to how large you can go

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Jan 31, 2019 19:50:36   #
Bipod
 
tdekany wrote:

He uses a m4/3 EM5 Mark2 and if you are indeed familiar with his work, you would know how highly he thinks of the hi res feature. I won’t waste your time making you contact him. Here is one of the things he says about printing from the EM5 Mark2 64mp files

Quote:
I'd feel comfortable printing the EM5 mII's high-res files at any size. I've only done prints up to 24" x 32" image area but they looked excellent, even at close examination. Seeing as one doesn't normally press one's nose against 30 x 40" and larger prints, I don't think there's any limit to how large you can go
Oly EM-1, Oly EM5 mark2, Oly 12-40mm F2.8, 40-150mm F2.8, tc 1.4
br He uses a m4/3 EM5 Mark2 and if you are indeed... (show quote)

Ctein's work in the dye transfer process is impressive and has stood the test of time. Were it
not for the great Eliot Porter, he'd be famous.

I can't explain that comment, but then I can't explain why Michael Jordan played baseball,
or why Joe Frazier recorded "My Way" (I much prefer Sid Vicious's version.).

I can see why someone as finicky about color as Ctein would like inkjet: a wide range of
pigments and dyes are available, if one is willing to hunt for them. But I can't explain that
comment about a 3442 times enlargement. That's like spreading an ounce of butter on an
acre of toast. I doesn't matter what brand of butter you use--there's not enough to go around.

His statement "I don't think there's any limit to how large you can go" is a clue that he doesn't
intend to be taken literally.

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Jan 31, 2019 21:28:45   #
User ID
 
Bipod wrote:
On most forums, you'd be kicked off for repeatedly posting an image, UserID.



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Feb 1, 2019 00:33:03   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Bipod wrote:
Ctein's work in the dye transfer process is impressive and has stood the test of time. Were it
not for the great Eliot Porter, he'd be famous.

I can't explain that comment, but then I can't explain why Michael Jordan played baseball,
or why Joe Frazier recorded "My Way" (I much prefer Sid Vicious's version.).

I can see why someone as finicky about color as Ctein would like inkjet: a wide range of
pigments and dyes are available, if one is willing to hunt for them. But I can't explain that
comment about a 3442 times enlargement. That's like spreading an ounce of butter on an
acre of toast. I doesn't matter what brand of butter you use--there's not enough to go around.

His statement "I don't think there's any limit to how large you can go" is a clue that he doesn't
intend to be taken literally.
Ctein's work in the dye transfer process is impres... (show quote)


That is funny, I will post more of his statement for you about how large he has printed his hi res m4/3 files.

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Feb 1, 2019 15:24:41   #
Bipod
 
tdekany wrote:
That is funny, I will post more of his statement for you about how large he has printed his hi res m4/3 files.

I suggest you get a second opinion on that, and don't just trust one source.

He's using multiple exposure -- the so-called "high rsolution mode".
This take 8 exposures over an approximately 1 second period.
In terms of stop-motion, this is equivalent to a 1 second exposure!

Obviously, this requires a tripod and won't work if anything in the scene moves.

That's a bit of a problem for landscape photographers. A single bird in flight or a single
branch blowing in the wind ruins the photo. So what method do you use, tdekany, to
prevent bird from flying and branches from blowing?


During this 1 second, the opical path is adjusted 8 times via moving an
opitcal element in calibrated step motion. To fully appreciate how difficult
it is to make that work and keep it working, you'd have to talk to a mecahanical
engineer. There is this thing called "inertia"....

You know, you could have saved us all a lot of trouble by titleing your
first post "Multipe Exposure Hi-Res Mode" instaed of making the cailm
that format doesn't matter.

Acutally you don't need a camera to take photographs -- you can pain them!
But that's not really a photograph, is it? And a multiple exposure isn't an
exposoures --- it's multiple exposures -- with all the drawbacks that entails
(pluse some new ones, thanks to the extreme high tolearances required of
the elecrto-mechanical system).

Trick photography has always existed in various forms, and sometimes it
gets good results. But it's special purpose. One can imagine a sitaution
in which this camera and it's Mutliple Exposure "Hi-Res Mode" would be
ideal. But to rely on it every time you want to make a print is close to
insanity.

Finally, what is so doggone wonderful about having a slighlty smaller
camera than the next guy, that's worth making your photography so
unnecessarily difficult and complex?


(Please note the rational and practical nature of these questions.)

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Feb 1, 2019 15:47:26   #
Bipod
 
[quote=UserID]
YAWN
On what kind of a forum are posts like this acceptable?

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Feb 1, 2019 16:00:17   #
Bipod
 
tdekany wrote:
Actually, you would have been gone a long time ago on any other forum. You repeat the same BS.

How many times

1 - have you accused people being employed by canikon/Sony/Olympus etc...

2 - make outrageous claims about these “””miniature””” formats like they take fuzzy pictures, pixelation etc...?

You are a troll if I have ever seen one. Who joins a photography forum and refuses to post a picture, while you disrespect the whole community. You May feel superior to everyone else, but that is nothing special, it is just a mental illness. Unfortunately you are not the only one suffering from it.

The good news is that most of them get banned sooner or later. Your day will also come.

You are the abuser, you may want to look in the mirror and see the real issue.

Be nice to people. They are your equal.
Actually, you would have been gone a long time ago... (show quote)

You are not nice at all, so stop telling other people to be nice.

There is nothing outrageous about the claims that format affects enlargement quality,
It's common knowledge.

You are evaiding this point by silently relying on MULTIPLE EXPOSURES--
the Olympus EM-5 so-called "High Resolution Mode". Your entire argument
hinges on this unstated assumption.

This mode takes 8 exposure over approximately 1 second. In terms of stop-motion,
this is equavalent ot a 1 second exposure!

A single branch blowing in the wind or a single bird if flight will ruin the photo.
But you see nothing wrong with using this mode very time you plan to make a
large print.

So what method do you use, tdekany, to prevent branches from blowing and
birds from flying?


BUT YOU NEVER ADMITTED THIS. You concealed your reliance on mutliple
exposures. Your first post should have been entigles "Using Mutiple Exposures
in High-Res Mode". Then there would have been no arguments---except over
whether such a complex and limiting feature is worthwhile.

This all reminds me very much of those Internet crackpot pages one sees: "Unlimited
Energy from Water!" After reading 20 pages, you discover that the guy is pumping
water with a electric pump over a waterwheel, and not checking his electric bill.

Please discuss this subject honestly and objectively, so that the dicussion will
have some value to other people on the forum.

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Feb 1, 2019 16:32:15   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
OK I am going to get in trouble here. I have a lot batteries that fit in My 4 Sony cameras.
I do use one third party bank Wasaki. My routine is I never let a battery run all out.
I top off the batteries after job or my own shoot. I must tell the NP FW50 has been in
my cameras from Sony for a long time. During that time their technology went throught
the roof. Managing my batteries has kept all 30 of them in fairly good shape. How can
I expect a battery make for a NEX small camera tobe the same in a a7s II full frame.
An amazing machine. So glad I can use themin all 4 cameras. Good luck stay in charge.

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