martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida

CHRIS T YOU HAVE NO IDEAL of what you talk about, PERIOD....... I thought for sure you had been band from this site for crap like this.. Here's how it works as I BOUUGHT A USED D600 myself. You contact Nikon Service Center and ask them if new shutter is needed with the cameras serial number....If needed they send a PDF file that you download and copy. This is a FREEEEEEE PREPAID ADDRESS SHIPPING LABEL to Nikon Service Center closes to you..... It Takes about 5 DAYS not Weeks for them to complete job and return ship to you also FREE. The reason the D600 is So cheap is all the misinformation out there on the web spread by guys like YOU.... You won't find a great deal on the D610 which is the same camera.

Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.

Yes, you can shoot DX lens with it but it wont be full frame, kind of defeats the purpose of using a full frame camera.

siamesecatmanuk Loc: Leicestershire UK

Being the said "catman" in this lively exchange, I have decided to error on the side of caution, won't be buying the d600'just not brave enough to take a chance with my £525 , who knows another bargain might be around the next corner ?

Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.

Sorry to read that. It sounded like a good deal and Nikon could have told you if the shutter had been serviced or not. If you can't afford a "new anything", used bargains always carry some risk. It should have been easy to check out the camera if the owner was willing to let you shoot a few frames with your own memory card. If the owner wasn't willing then do not walk away, run!

siamesecatmanuk Loc: Leicestershire UK

The main problem here,is that its social media selling,I,m in one place the seller far away,so it's a case of do I take a risk,pay and get rubbish or not,the trying it idea isn't practical if travel costs are high as in this case,though would work if fairly local.
Guess I will never know if I made the right call.
G

Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.

I didn't realize that this wasn't a local sale. Adding that to the equation, I think you did make the right call.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Graham - not to worry. The D600 has been discontinued, and the D610 soon will be, too. So, you're bound to find some pretty good deals on both cameras (the newer model is exactly the same, but with the shutter problem already resolved.) MPB - I think that's the right name (not sure) is an English firm which now has a NYC office too. They are primarily a web concern, here, in the States - but, there, they may also be a shop. I've seen some pretty good deals on both models, there. Why don't you check them out?

siamesecatmanuk Loc: Leicestershire UK

I have been looking at MPB website,prices are generally higher than private sale as you would expect given they do offer some warranty,though their trade in prices are also low compared to what I might get for my D7100 in a private sale,thinking I would be best off selling mine private and buying through them,though it will all take longer no doubt and mean being without a camera for a while.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Graham … did not realize you would be sacrificing the D7100 in order to be able to purchase the FF. I, also, have that model, and consider it one of my finest cameras (Sony SLTs aside) but my D5500 is no disgrace! Not sure I would be willing to take that step, en route to an FX camera. Obviously, were I, I'd already have done so, but I'm not. If I ever do take that very major step, I would not be giving up any of the DSLRs I already possess. Actually, I don't really see buying a FF as a major step forward. What would be, in my estimation - is a solid piece of fast glass. Then, if I ever did take that step, I'd already be equipped for it. And, probably - if I made THAT step - I'd be doing business with MPB - hey! … nothing wrong with a solid warranty - now, is there?

siamesecatmanuk Loc: Leicestershire UK

I have loved every minute of owning the d7100 part of me doesent want to part with it,but the FF ideology won't stop getting into my ear hole, the idea I will be top of the pile with FF and get better results.i do have some FF lens which I use on the d7100 some manual but a auto focus Nikon 35-70 mm f2.8 which almost never came off,part of me longs to see what that glass will give me on FF.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Graham - if you love the D7100 - keep it. It's a fine camera! … There are a lot of folks here at UHH who are constantly reminding everyone you'd get a better product, overall, with a FF camera, as you are dealing with a format which provides approximately twice the image area. But, what that amounts to - in real world terms - is a stop of improvement in low light scenarios, and slightly better DOF - also a stop or two. What you have to contend with, in exchange - is pricier glass, and a heavier kit, overall. It depends, really, on what you shoot - if you find yourself constantly shooting in low light situations - then, go for it. But, if you don't - then, you should look at what you shoot, most of the time. If the answer is Landscapes, or exterior architecture - then, by all means - go FF. A wide lens on a FF camera, really is wide. And, your panoramas will do nicely, under FF employment. But, if you are currently using a 35-70, then, I suspect your forte is NOT that. And, if you shoot distance shots, a lot, you will actually find you are better off with a crop-sensor camera. You know, there's only a couple of crop-sensor (DX) DSLRs better than the D7100. They are the D7200, the newer D7500, and, of course - the crop of the litter - the D500. Any of these will give you better images than the D7100 - but, in the case of the D7200 - not by much. The other two - will - but at a trade-off - as then you will be dealing with just a 20MP sensor, instead of a 24MP sensor. So there are these complications involved in a trade-up, from where you are, now. Personally, I would not do it. I had been wrangling with the possible trade-up to a D7500 - the newest DX Nikon. But, at $1200 - not sure it would be a good move, at the moment. I am also aware I could pick up an FX Nikon for less. But, don't forget - the D600/D610 - are quite a bit older, and I'm not sure it makes sense. The D760 will be out, any day … a FF Nikon, with all the latest technology. That would be a sensible acquisition. Digital camera technology leaps forward about every three years. So, the D760 would TRULY - be at the top of the pile. I used to rush in and get the newest camera, as soon as I found it included a new innovation I did not have access to, in my current models. But, I've done all that, now. I no longer see the need for a new camera, until I see some significant new advances in digital camera technology. I have two of the best cameras money (my money) can buy - the Sony a77 II, and the Nikon D7100. There may be other better cameras, out there - but most of them are beyond my pocketbook (and that includes ALL FFs.)

Graham - do what it pleases you to do. But, if you are quite happy with the results you're getting with a D7100 and a 35-70 f2.8 lens, then - keep shooting with that combination. Experiment. Happy Shooting!!!

siamesecatmanuk Loc: Leicestershire UK

What you say all makes perfect sense,it's just that FF fly buzzing in my ear,I will probably continue to ignore it and shoot on with my belove d7100 ( no filter in it ) which I also think makes a difference,think you have made up my mind for me,till the next bargain FF comes close by ! photograhic cheers from over the pond .Graham

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Well, swat it!!!!!

As far as I can tell, Graham - the D600 dates back to mid-2012. And, yes, it (and its successor - the D610) both have the AA-filter, which the D7100 (early 2013) - does not. Regardless of the bruhaha about the sensor in the D600 - which was initially proven to attract dust, even before the oil was also discovered to be leaking from the shutter, both cameras won all kinds of prestigious honors, and were named best in class. Nikon had already set about to improve them both, however, not content to have them JUST be best in class, and - primarily - had improved the charging system - so both would gain about 150 more exposures, per charge, in the next iteration. But when the Chinese govt. forced them to stop selling the D600, that model was discontinued. Never happened with the D7100, of course - but the D7200 (2015) got not only the improved charging system (using the same battery) but also a better (3x) buffer for RAW images, and, of course - true Wi-Fi (dis)connectability. Other than those three things, there is no difference between the D7100 and the D7200. It was the D7500 (2017) which made the giant leap - incorporating the same sensor which had been introduced in the D500 in 2016. So, there IS NO improvement in the camera (D7200) itself, over its predecessor (D7100) other than the buffer, and the improved charging system - which was already in the works for the D610. So, unless you really need the Wi-Fi / Bluetooth / NFC - and/or the better buffer, there's no need to upgrade from the D7100 to the D7200 - they're the same!

Hope all this puts your mind at rest, Graham, now, either swat that fly, or catch it, and put it under glass!!
… there, to photograph it, up close - with your wonderful D7100 and superb glass!!!! …