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Jan 8, 2019 18:02:54   #
Canpic78
 
Glitzy & patterned surfaces will reflect light in many different ways such as Christmas wrapping paper. Flash doesn't work out well, as it creates too much light in one spot, so I put the object in the shade. A bright gold color turned out green in some places. What is the best light for these types of photos?

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Jan 8, 2019 18:08:40   #
jdubu Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Flash can work well, try using diffusion and flash off camera for better control.

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Jan 8, 2019 18:30:38   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Canpic78 wrote:
Glitzy & patterned surfaces will reflect light in many different ways such as Christmas wrapping paper. Flash doesn't work out well, as it creates too much light in one spot, so I put the object in the shade. A bright gold color turned out green in some places. What is the best light for these types of photos?


You need to play around bounce flash and flash diffusers.

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Jan 8, 2019 18:44:15   #
canon Lee
 
Canpic78 wrote:
Glitzy & patterned surfaces will reflect light in many different ways such as Christmas wrapping paper. Flash doesn't work out well, as it creates too much light in one spot, so I put the object in the shade. A bright gold color turned out green in some places. What is the best light for these types of photos?


If there is no motion I suggest long exposures without any lights. Set to aperture priority, F8, a heavy tripod, bracket at +/- 1stop ( setting your camera to bracketing & use a trigger cable) Never touch the camera while bracketing. In post production use HDR. Shoot at different angles, and use soft light from a window if possible.

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Jan 8, 2019 18:55:10   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Canpic78 wrote:
Glitzy & patterned surfaces will reflect light in many different ways such as Christmas wrapping paper. Flash doesn't work out well, as it creates too much light in one spot, so I put the object in the shade. A bright gold color turned out green in some places. What is the best light for these types of photos?


Post a photo of what you are shooting, no matter how bad you think it is, so we can better evaluate the technique to use. Any guesses at this point are just that.

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Jan 8, 2019 20:09:34   #
wrangler5 Loc: Missouri
 
If it's an object you can move, consider a light tent. They come in all shapes and sizes and prices - here's just one https://www.amazon.com/Bestshoot-Shooting-Diffusion-Backdrops-Photography/dp/B01GE79L98/ref=sr_1_3_acs_ac_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1546995875&sr=8-3-acs&keywords=light+tent - and they usually collapse for more convenient storage.

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Jan 8, 2019 20:35:49   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Canpic78 wrote:
Glitzy & patterned surfaces will reflect light in many different ways such as Christmas wrapping paper. Flash doesn't work out well, as it creates too much light in one spot, so I put the object in the shade. A bright gold color turned out green in some places. What is the best light for these types of photos?


Post a sample image

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Jan 9, 2019 06:11:57   #
Mercer Loc: Houston, TX, USA
 
The gold color might have come out green if you were shooting in the shade under green foliage. Gold (yellow) giftwrap is highly reflective. If you were shooting outside under a blue sky you probably will produce some green tones.

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Jan 9, 2019 06:25:14   #
Shutterbug57
 
Composite your shot. You take several shots with the camera on a tripod - don’t move it. You move the light source around and light the various parts of the image separately and from slightly different angles. Then in PS, pick the best lit parts and put your image together.

For smaller items, you can use your cellphone as the light source. Go into a darkroom and set your camera for a long exposure Say 10 seconds, then move your phone to light the subject (with a mainly white screen, I use a blank note page). Take a number of these shots and you then do a composite of those shots.

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Jan 9, 2019 06:39:51   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 

--Bob
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
You need to play around bounce flash and flash diffusers.

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Jan 9, 2019 07:06:29   #
Bipod
 
Canpic78 wrote:
Glitzy & patterned surfaces will reflect light in many different ways such as Christmas wrapping paper. Flash doesn't work out well, as it creates too much light in one spot, so I put the object in the shade. A bright gold color turned out green in some places. What is the best light for these types of photos?

Short answer: locate the light outside the "family of angles" that will reflect into your camera lens,
or use diffuse light.

The problem is "specular reflection": light from a point source striking a surface that is smooth
and shiney, causing a beam of light to be reflected into the camera. A surface that diffuses light creates
only a diffuse reflection which is less concentrated and so does not cause a probem. A piece of white
paper creates a diffuse reflection; a mirror creates a specular reflection.

If it were one tiny mirror, the chances of it reflecting your flash into your camera lens would be small.
But if the surface is large and covered in tiny mirrors, there is very good chance it will hit your lens.
Not to worry: you can still dodge the bullets, but you have to know which spots are safe.

Light reflect soff a perfectly flat surface so that the angle at which it leaves the surface is the same
as the angle at which it hit the surface, and it will stay in the same plane (Law of Reflection).
Remember that a light that is far away (such as the sun or a distant flash) strikes all parts of a surface
at close the the same angle. So no matter where you stand on the opposites side of a pond from the
sun, if you point the camera at the pond some part of the pond will reflect it back into the lens.

When the light is closer and the surface is smaller, then there is only a small "family of angles" that
will catch a reflection from a stationary light.

One way to see this simple specular reflection from a flat object is to set a mirror the size of the object
on top of the object. Then you can see quite easily where the light goes.

When the shiney surface has texture, this family of angles may get quite large. You may need to experiment
to find the best placement. You can move either the camera or the light--whichever is more convenient.

When the subject consists (as most do) of several planes, then you avoid reflections from each plane.

The subject of reflections is thoroughly explained with many examples in Light: Science and Magic,
5th Edition, by Fil Hunter, Steven Biver, and Paul Fuqua (New York and London: Focal Press, 2015.
ISBN 978-0-415-71940-7, paperback).

Alternatively, try a very difuse light source. You could try bouncing flash off the ceiling, and if that doesn't
work, off a wall. Makes sure no direct flash falls on the subject. (Soft boxes and small umbrellas are not
diffuse enough to eliminated specular reflections.)

If the surface causing the refllections doesn't conduct electricity, then a polarizer filter might help.
But metal surfaces (e.g., aluminum foil) do not polarize light, so if it's tinsel causing the reflections,
a CPL won't help.

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Jan 9, 2019 08:28:31   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
canon Lee wrote:
If there is no motion I suggest long exposures without any lights. Set to aperture priority, F8, a heavy tripod, bracket at +/- 1stop ( setting your camera to bracketing & use a trigger cable) Never touch the camera while bracketing. In post production use HDR. Shoot at different angles, and use soft light from a window if possible.


Sounds good. Thanks.

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Jan 9, 2019 09:16:47   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Canpic78 wrote:
Glitzy & patterned surfaces will reflect light in many different ways such as Christmas wrapping paper. Flash doesn't work out well, as it creates too much light in one spot, so I put the object in the shade. A bright gold color turned out green in some places. What is the best light for these types of photos?


Use a large, white satin umbrella or a large soft box (both are light modifiers made to diffuse studio strobes). Or, use a large piece of white foam core board to reflect a small source.

The idea is to make the specular highlights and the diffuse highlights have the same exposure value. (A specular highlight is a mirror-like reflection of a light source. A diffuse highlight is a well-lit subject that is not in shadow and has no mirror-like properties.)

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Jan 9, 2019 09:30:35   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Here's one of the better videos on accomplishing this sort of task. The guy is a little quirky, but knows his stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGOTnT_dagQ
--Bob
Canpic78 wrote:
Glitzy & patterned surfaces will reflect light in many different ways such as Christmas wrapping paper. Flash doesn't work out well, as it creates too much light in one spot, so I put the object in the shade. A bright gold color turned out green in some places. What is the best light for these types of photos?

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Jan 9, 2019 09:32:37   #
ssymeono Loc: St. Louis, Missouri
 
Besides the many lighting suggestions already made and when all else fails, don't forget the good old circular polarizer filter: it does miracles with reflections.

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