still true?
Jan 8, 2019 07:44:36 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Photography has nothing to do with cameras.
– Lucas Gentry
Welcome aboard
– Lucas Gentry
Welcome aboard
Then why are they like leaves before the wind to buy the latest and greatest??
Jan 8, 2019 07:46:26 #
rekauff wrote:
I forgot who said this, but the quote is "photographers who compare cameras are like writers who compare typewriters." Is this still true?
Not true, never was.
A lame analogy.
Jan 8, 2019 07:53:21 #
Why would you compare a camera to a typewriter.
Jan 8, 2019 08:06:58 #
Many young photographers believe that only the best and the latest will produce outstanding shots. They also believe that only professional lenses are capable of excellent results. Do not talk to them about an old camera because the chances are excellent that they do not want anything with old technology. This type of thinking has served me well because NONE of my cameras and NONE of my lenses I bought new and they have been in the market for some time.
I make mention here often to two cameras, the D700 and the D200. They are not super megapixel cameras nor they have the latest technologies but both are very capable cameras. Both offer beautiful pastel colors, the colors I favor. The D200 impressed me with its first generation Nikon colors and the D700 has been and still is in use by many professionals who love the camera. Its files are comparable to those of the professional Nikon D3 and both share the same sensor.
In short, camera and lenses are tools. It all depends on the photographer.
I make mention here often to two cameras, the D700 and the D200. They are not super megapixel cameras nor they have the latest technologies but both are very capable cameras. Both offer beautiful pastel colors, the colors I favor. The D200 impressed me with its first generation Nikon colors and the D700 has been and still is in use by many professionals who love the camera. Its files are comparable to those of the professional Nikon D3 and both share the same sensor.
In short, camera and lenses are tools. It all depends on the photographer.
Jan 8, 2019 08:25:26 #
Stupid quote regardless of who did or did not say it. People are always trying to one up someone else and will spend thousands when something new comes out just to be hip. I agree that better tools produce better results but if you are like me and just take photos for your own enjoyment you should save your money. That said, I want to upgrade!!!
Jan 8, 2019 08:26:36 #
It doesn't seem like an apt comparison to me. There is much more variation in the capabilities of cameras than there is with typewriters. It's not like there are certain typewriters which are better for writing certain types of material. But there are cameras which give an advantage when shooting things like low lighting, fast action, contrasty lighting, etc.
Jan 8, 2019 09:24:34 #
rborud
Loc: Minnesota
rekauff wrote:
I forgot who said this, but the quote is "photographers who compare cameras are like writers who compare typewriters." Is this still true?
rekauff I do agree, I sometimes wonder if I am in a creative world or a toy shop. Thanks for the quote. RBorud
Jan 8, 2019 09:28:15 #
anotherview wrote:
Camera, lens, and skill together play a part in producing a worthy photograph.
Skill includes everything put in place by the photographer before he presses the shutter button. Afterward, he applies his skill when he processes the photograph.
Consider that foremost, photography functions as a craft, implying skill in its doing along with tools for this activity.
Experience tells me so.
Skill includes everything put in place by the photographer before he presses the shutter button. Afterward, he applies his skill when he processes the photograph.
Consider that foremost, photography functions as a craft, implying skill in its doing along with tools for this activity.
Experience tells me so.
The first step in producing any work of art is deciding what you want to accomplish. The second is choosing the tools.
A carpenter wants to build a frame house and chooses a framing hammer.
A painter wants to produce a relaxing landscape and chooses water colors.
A sculptor wants a to produce a towering god like creature and chooses marble and a set of chisels.
A director wants to do a action film and chooses a stunt coordinator, a cinematographer and Vin Diesl.
A photographer wants to shoot a landscape, portrait, action shot, bird in flight.... and chooses the appropriate body and lens.
Tool selection and the artist have ALWAYS been connected. People who believe otherwise are just fooling themselves.
Jan 8, 2019 09:48:20 #
Thanks for the welcome. With a nil budget I’ll continue to make pictures that please me and will me remember where and with whom I am.
Jan 8, 2019 09:54:23 #
StanMac
Loc: Tennessee
rekauff wrote:
I forgot who said this, but the quote is "photographers who compare cameras are like writers who compare typewriters." Is this still true?
That is a true comparison. Since I’m not a writer I don’t know for sure, but I would bet in a writers forum there would be very little discussion, if any, about the tools they use to create their work. Whereas, in every photo forum I’ve read at least half of the discussions are about equipment.
Not that that is a bad thing. I like cameras as interesting pieces of mechanical and electronic wizardry.
Stan
Jan 8, 2019 09:55:34 #
Tomcat5133
Loc: Gladwyne PA
It is true that certain cameras do some things really better then others.
The ride to high end image and video payed business wants to see equipment that is considered pro.
My Sony PXW-X70 camcorder a small pro 10 bit camera with a rig gets attention.
Of course the camera means something in certain situations.
That said I working with a young DP who bought the first Red for filming. I would go to
lunch with him and he had Canon T2i and was grabbing shots that looked good.
He said I can make any camera take good shots.
I was asked by good friends to take family photos at a pool party.
I don't usually do that but this was special I used my a6300 with 16 70 zeiss lens.
It was a grab shots and a broke the rule and put a small flash on the camera
on the mount outdoors. Shots came out great I made prints of best.
So the camera helped and my creative experience helped me.
The ride to high end image and video payed business wants to see equipment that is considered pro.
My Sony PXW-X70 camcorder a small pro 10 bit camera with a rig gets attention.
Of course the camera means something in certain situations.
That said I working with a young DP who bought the first Red for filming. I would go to
lunch with him and he had Canon T2i and was grabbing shots that looked good.
He said I can make any camera take good shots.
I was asked by good friends to take family photos at a pool party.
I don't usually do that but this was special I used my a6300 with 16 70 zeiss lens.
It was a grab shots and a broke the rule and put a small flash on the camera
on the mount outdoors. Shots came out great I made prints of best.
So the camera helped and my creative experience helped me.
Jan 8, 2019 10:32:59 #
My home has become a Museum for Gadgets over the past 70 years and I also have that old circa Underwood Type-Writer on the shelf with those old film cameras to go hand in hand with each other to seal the deal. I don't think the two habits are comparable as they are symptoms of a far worse disease I fear...haha.
Jan 8, 2019 10:41:10 #
rekauff wrote:
I forgot who said this, but the quote is "photographers who compare cameras are like writers who compare typewriters." Is this still true?
Actually it might better be said like this in 2019:
"photographers who compare cameras are like writers who compare SOFTWARE TO MAKE A BOOK." As both a writer and a photographer I know that the camera I use does make a difference in some ways and that the software I use to create my book also makes a difference in some ways. Some cameras are designed for very specific uses...for example, fast action...and some book software is also designed for very specific uses...photo book versus written word book...so I use the best tool possible to get the best result possible. It can be done, however, without having the "latest and greatest," although it's fun to have that!
Jan 8, 2019 10:55:28 #
via the lens wrote:
Actually it might better be said like this in 2019... (show quote)
Just to add on the writing side for scripts you need to use something like FinalDraft or you may not even get your submission read, let alone produced.
Jan 8, 2019 10:55:30 #
markinvictoria wrote:
Photography without cameras? How do you do that? 
Photography is in the mind of the person creating a picture. The camera is merely the device used to record the image. Photography is art, and the camera is just the tool.
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