imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

Yes, and sadly, he is not the only one

nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY

Well, I loved Bipod's comments. Right on the mark. Those who called it "rants" just don't like someone who they feel is trying to lower their self-esteem, and trying to temper the fanaticism surrounding mirrorless.

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

See, I told you there were more ....

pv3977 Loc: San Diego

1. The Nikon 50mm 1.4 works well with Z6 since it’s full frame. The Tamron 18-400mm also works in crop mode but the picture will be around 8MP only. You need to check the compatibility between Tamron lenses and FTZ adapter. Sigma lenses work fine but I heard Tamron has focusing issue. I don’t have Tamron lens so I don’t know.
2. You will see low light improvement with Z6 comparing to D7100.
3. XQD card is expensive $130 for a 64GB comparing to $50 for SD card of similar speed. Unless you shoot video then XQD card is a better choice. High speed photo (10 fps) then a 100 MB/s is sufficient.
In my experience, I bought and returned the Z6 for the following reasons:
1. Z6 weight and size is similar to my D750. Unless you switch over to all mirrorless lenses, the weight saving with Z6 is minimal. Another thing is I feel the FTZ adapter is not seamless. The focus speed seems slower and more hunting when I used with Sigma 100-400mm and Nikon 200-500mm. (I tested both cameras and lenses at San Diego Zoo)
2. Low light noise improves over my D7100 but about the same level with D750. (I still own both D7100 and D750 but returned Z6).
3. I don’t like the XQD card. It’s 3 times more expensive than SD and I cannot use it with the rest of my cameras. I know the speed is faster but it’s not a factor for me. Interchangeability with other cameras is more important to me.
4. The Z6 consumes a lot more electricity than DSLR. Z6 went through 3 batteries in 1 shooting session while the D750 still went strong with 1 battery. If you buy Z6 then be prepare to buy additional batteries.
After I returned Z6 I bought Sony A7Rii since B&H had special discount for $1596. I bought the kit lens Sony 28-70mm and the all in one Sony 24-240mm lens along with the purchase. So far I like it a lot:
1. It automatically switch to crop mode when I tried with the Sony crop lens 18-200mm (my current grab and go Sony A6000/18-200mm)
2. In crop mode, the picture comes out with 18.9 MB pixel, almost the same picture quality with D750.
3. A7 series camera is as small as Sony A6000. Its weigh is also just a tad heavier than A6000.
4. The Sony A7Rii has 42 MB photo size. I can crop 50% the size and it still give me high quality photo. However, you must use high quality lens to insure the good results.
5. If you want to reduce carrying weight then the A7R plus crop E lenses is a perfect combination.
6. I also bought an Sony LA-EA4 adapter and I can use all of the Minolta/Konica/Sony A lenses from the last 15 years or so. Minolta A lenses are very good quality and very cheap. ( For example a Minolta 28-75mm F/2.8 is about $300 vs $1000 for a Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 of the same era). The adapter works seamless with full functionality in focusing and metering across all A lenses.
7. Sony A7Rii is capable for low light since it has both Contrast detect and phase detect functionality.
Currently I’m still exploring all of the functionality and various options that I can play with the A7Rii. I’m waiting for a new line of Nikon to E lens AF adapter that I can use my Nikon lenses with the A7Rii. There is several adapters offered right now. I tried them but it still hits and miss in terms of focusing

jaycoffman Loc: San Diego

pv3977 - Thanks for your reply. It's very practical and relevant to my situation. I am now going to be looking at the Sonys very carefully. I was thinking of the a7III but now I'll also see what the 7Rii looks like too. Thanks agian.

BlackRipleyDog

I know this stirring the pot but with an EVF, are you looking at a JPEG or RAW image? It is not the real deal like you get with a OFV. Is is live or is it Memorex?

jaycoffman Loc: San Diego

I use the subscription Lightroom/Photoshop and shoot almost exclusively in raw. Is there something I should be considering?

patman1 Loc: Pataskala, Ohio

Hi, I really have nothing to add to the change to mirrorless cameras newly available today, but i do have a question about Tamron zoom lenses. I just read an article from a lens rental company that talked about the problems with Tamron lenses jamming and how much work is involved in repairing them. I was wondering since i see many members using them if they had experienced this problem. Sorry to change subject!

Selene03

I haven't used Nikon cameras for several years now, but their full frame models seem heavier than my Canon full frames and definitely heavier than my Sonys. I got the a7iii on the basis of good reviws of it as a camera to do astroscenes in spite of issues about star eater, etc. I tried it with the kit lens as a walk around camera climbing on rocks and small treks, etc., and decided it really was a significant improvement in weight over my Canons. I later traded the a7iii for an a7riii when I got a good deal on the latter. I have used that camera now a lot as a travel and hiking camera. It is heavier with Sony's best lenses, but still n0t as heavy as the Canon full frames. The more I use it, the better I like it. I still prefer the Canons for birds, but I would say that the weight savings with the smaller Sony is significant. The two lens mentioned above--the kit lens (28-70) and the 24-240 are not Sony's best lenses, but they are extremely light. I think the 24-240 is much sharper, especially in the center, than the Nikon 28-300 I had and certainly much lighter. It might be worth looking into.

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

Probably ......I believe the EVF shows a JPEG - so if you use JPEG, you see EXACTLY what you will get - WB included ! ( yes, I have and use an EVF) If you process raw, you may or may not see an accurate representation according to you needs. Another reason why I shoot JPEG only !

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BlackRipleyDog

I was ruminating on what was the image format projected by the EVF. Are you looking at a JPEG driven by the camera's Picture Control settings or is it unadjusted RAW image? Is this the same thing you would see from the rear monitor? If you change the White Balance settings to a cooler setting, do you see the world with a blue cast? I do not own an EVF camera but these potential aspects kind of make sense since you are viewing a processed live televised image in the viewfinder.
I am not attempting to pick at the RAWvsJEPG sore that festers up with astonishing regularity.

BDHender

Lots of miss information here that has plagued the internet concerning the Z6 and Z7. The FTZ does not lower the quality for the pictures at all. Nikon claims this to be true. In fact using some of my D500 lenses on the Z7 indicates the IQ improves. That is likely due to the sensor. Since the distance from the lens to the sensor is the same as earlier Nikon cameras why would it change to a lower IQ. I see no difference in focusing speed.

The Z6 and Z7 can use the same batteries that have been used in most Nikon DSLR's for years. The only difference is the newer EL-15b bateries that come with the Z's can be charged in the camera. That is someting the D7100 couldnt do so basically the 15's work the same as other Nikon cameras. You dont have to buy a bunch of batteries. I have 5 15's and only the one 15b that came with the Z7. They all work the same except for the optional in camera charging of the 15b.

I bought the Z7 to save weight and size. I had a 70-300 FX P which is the latest 70-300 that I use with the D500. This is a very good lense on the Z7 that is only 6 1/2 inches long colapsed and weighs probably less that half the weight of my 20-200 VR2. The pictures in the Z7 certianly rival the IQ of th 70-200. I sold the 70-200. The 16-80 lense that came with my D500 works extremely well on the Z7. The Z7 automatically goes to crop mode when this lense is mounted. This gives me the equivelent field of view of a 24-120. I loose some pixels but the pictures are very sharp. These combos give me a great camera that shoots across the board better than my D810 which I also sold. Withe the 24-70 S that came with the Z7 and the lenses mentioned along with an FX85 1.8 and a FX50 1.8. I have a much lighter stable that has a better IQ. The 70-300 FXP is often confused with the DX version but those are very different lenses.

The QXD cards are, as others reported, fae superior to the SD cards in performance and structure and are about to be replaced with the newer and much faster, but same physical format, CFexpress cards.


Lighter and better accomplished.

Bryan

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

I would suggest a mint used Nikon 70-200 2.8 VRII that you can get for nearly the same price and would pair nicely with the Z6.

Bill_de Loc: US

I posted a few unedited pictures in the Photo Gallery, shot today with the Z6 and 800mm Nikkor. The only change I made, in PS Elements, was to reduce the long edge to 1,920 pixels. With that exception they are SOOC.

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-571668-1.html#9736936

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pv3977 Loc: San Diego

At most Z6/Z7 can get 350 pix before the battery exhausted. That's under a controlled advertised condition. The D750 can get over 1000 pix per EN-EL15. On the average I'm taking well over 1000 pix per outing (HDR, high speed photo for bird in fly...)