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Jan 17, 2019 08:43:04   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
The Big Bang was the end of the preceding universe that collapsed back into tiny ball of super dense matter that reached a critical mass and created a big Nuclear bang which created the current universe. Billions or trillions of years from now our universe will collapse and another bang will happen. Space has no beginning or end and time is defined by humans.

Sorry no God involved, well not for me anyway, others believe different and that is their right.

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Jan 17, 2019 09:53:27   #
Frosty Loc: Minnesota
 
letmedance wrote:
The Big Bang was the end of the preceding universe that collapsed back into tiny ball of super dense matter that reached a critical mass and created a big Nuclear bang which created the current universe. Billions or trillions of years from now our universe will collapse and another bang will happen. Space has no beginning or end and time is defined by humans.

Sorry no God involved, well not for me anyway, others believe different and that is their right.

Thank you for posting this. It generally coincides with me belief that I have held for a long time and have been hesitant to discuss

I think of it as a pulsating universe. One that continually expands and collapses and there was no beginning of tme and no end. Time and space is created by matter/energy. Without matter there is no time or space.

I also believe that when matter enters a black hole it enters a zone where, because of gravity, the speed of light goes to zero, meaning time doesn't exist. If time doesn't exist then nothing exists. How can this happen? Well, String theory, the theory that unifies Einstein's General Theory of Relativity and Max Plank's (and others), theory of Quantum Mechanics can help explain it. In order for this to work, there needs to be 10 or 11 other dimensions, of which we do not sense. We only sense 4 dimensions. It is in these other dimensions in which God resides, so to speak, and where the spirit world exists. In other word's, the spirit world and God are all around us only we don't sense the dimensions In which they reside.

To me, this can explain how there can be an after life and a heaven. Otherwise, where is heaven? If this condition doesn't exist, then where is heavdn? Why haven't we seen it with our telescopes? None of this is dependent on the physical world of 4 dimensions of which we are aware of and exist it.

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Jan 17, 2019 10:33:14   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
letmedance wrote:
The Big Bang was the end of the preceding universe that collapsed back into tiny ball of super dense matter that reached a critical mass and created a big Nuclear bang which created the current universe. Billions or trillions of years from now our universe will collapse and another bang will happen. Space has no beginning or end and time is defined by humans.

Sorry no God involved, well not for me anyway, others believe different and that is their right.

Swing and a miss as it is well established physics that the universe lacks sufficient mass to revert to a singularity.

That being said, you answered a question that I didn’t ask.

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Jan 17, 2019 11:05:58   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
LoL

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Jan 17, 2019 11:32:17   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frosty wrote:
You live in the world you created for yourself. Thankfully I don't have to live in this fantasy world and get to live in the world of reality.

I knew you couldn't answer the question about what have the Republicans done for the many black people living in or near poverty. Since Republicans have had control of both Congress and the White House they could have done something. They did nothing. Instead of answering all the questions, you focused on ID's. What about the gerrymandering and the lack of polling places and the lack of b****ts and the long lines at the few polling places? All done to negate b****s and other groups v**es or to discourage them from v****g at all. I bet you didn't forget about those questions? You just can't answer them without acknowledging the t***h as it exists in the real world.

I don't believe you even know what a socialist or f*****t is. To you they are just insults to everyone who isn't an extreme right wing fanatic.

Chile was run by a rightwinger, Augusto Pinochet. Read about how that went.
You live in the world you created for yourself. T... (show quote)


Frosty, I can't answer the question on republicans because I don't know if they have or have not done something specific. Perhaps someone else knows. I do know the democrats ens***e the poor by keeping them on the dole.

You didn't answer why you think v**er ID is such a horrible imposition on someone.

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Jan 17, 2019 12:29:03   #
jcboy3
 
Frosty wrote:
Thank you for posting this. It generally coincides with me belief that I have held for a long time and have been hesitant to discuss

I think of it as a pulsating universe. One that continually expands and collapses and there was no beginning of tme and no end. Time and space is created by matter/energy. Without matter there is no time or space.

I also believe that when matter enters a black hole it enters a zone where, because of gravity, the speed of light goes to zero, meaning time doesn't exist. If time doesn't exist then nothing exists. How can this happen? Well, String theory, the theory that unifies Einstein's General Theory of Relativity and Max Plank's (and others), theory of Quantum Mechanics can help explain it. In order for this to work, there needs to be 10 or 11 other dimensions, of which we do not sense. We only sense 4 dimensions. It is in these other dimensions in which God resides, so to speak, and where the spirit world exists. In other word's, the spirit world and God are all around us only we don't sense the dimensions In which they reside.

To me, this can explain how there can be an after life and a heaven. Otherwise, where is heaven? If this condition doesn't exist, then where is heavdn? Why haven't we seen it with our telescopes? None of this is dependent on the physical world of 4 dimensions of which we are aware of and exist it.
Thank you for posting this. It generally coincide... (show quote)


These beliefs are generally unsubstantiated. They are as bad as a belief in a god, except for the lack of moral direction.

There is no way to determine if the universe is cyclical, or not, or even unique.

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Jan 17, 2019 13:02:28   #
Frosty Loc: Minnesota
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Frosty, I can't answer the question on republicans because I don't know if they have or have not done something specific. Perhaps someone else knows. I do know the democrats ens***e the poor by keeping them on the dole.

You didn't answer why you think v**er ID is such a horrible imposition on someone.


Thanks for being so honest with your answer to my question.

Democrats aren't keeping b****s on the dole anymore than Republican are keeping w****s on the dole. Most red states receive more federal money than they contribute than blue states. The reason is there is more money going to people on welfare. Explain that. See:
https://www.apnews.com/2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c

You are assuming that I think v**er ID is a horrible imposition on someone. I don't for the most part, but, I do think it is an imposition on some people and it is totally unnecessary. There is practically no v***r f***d. The little that has been detected certainly hasn't been enough to influence an e******n nor does anyone know which party benefited by these v**es.

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Jan 17, 2019 13:23:17   #
Angmo
 
Frosty wrote:
Thanks for being so honest with your answer to my question.

Democrats aren't keeping b****s on the dole anymore than Republican are keeping w****s on the dole. Most red states receive more federal money than they contribute than blue states. The reason is there is more money going to people on welfare. Explain that. See:
https://www.apnews.com/2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c

You are assuming that I think v**er ID is a horrible imposition on someone. I don't for the most part, but, I do think it is an imposition on some people and it is totally unnecessary. There is practically no v***r f***d. The little that has been detected certainly hasn't been enough to influence an e******n nor does anyone know which party benefited by these v**es.
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So, having an ID for any reason is not rascist. That’s good news. I use mine to v**e. It’s needed where I live. Seems a simple matter.

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Jan 17, 2019 13:31:45   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frosty wrote:
Thank you for posting this. It generally coincides with me belief that I have held for a long time and have been hesitant to discuss

I think of it as a pulsating universe. One that continually expands and collapses and there was no beginning of tme and no end. Time and space is created by matter/energy. Without matter there is no time or space.

I also believe that when matter enters a black hole it enters a zone where, because of gravity, the speed of light goes to zero, meaning time doesn't exist. If time doesn't exist then nothing exists. How can this happen? Well, String theory, the theory that unifies Einstein's General Theory of Relativity and Max Plank's (and others), theory of Quantum Mechanics can help explain it. In order for this to work, there needs to be 10 or 11 other dimensions, of which we do not sense. We only sense 4 dimensions. It is in these other dimensions in which God resides, so to speak, and where the spirit world exists. In other word's, the spirit world and God are all around us only we don't sense the dimensions In which they reside.

To me, this can explain how there can be an after life and a heaven. Otherwise, where is heaven? If this condition doesn't exist, then where is heavdn? Why haven't we seen it with our telescopes? None of this is dependent on the physical world of 4 dimensions of which we are aware of and exist it.
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing your thought on this.

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Jan 17, 2019 13:34:51   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Frosty wrote:
Thanks for being so honest with your answer to my question.

Democrats aren't keeping b****s on the dole anymore than Republican are keeping w****s on the dole. Most red states receive more federal money than they contribute than blue states. The reason is there is more money going to people on welfare. Explain that. See:
https://www.apnews.com/2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c

You are assuming that I think v**er ID is a horrible imposition on someone. I don't for the most part, but, I do think it is an imposition on some people and it is totally unnecessary. There is practically no v***r f***d. The little that has been detected certainly hasn't been enough to influence an e******n nor does anyone know which party benefited by these v**es.
Thanks for being so honest with your answer to my ... (show quote)


Forget about v***r f***d. I listed some of the things ID is needed for. Who finds it difficult to get ID when it is required for everything.

We are just going to have to disagree on the republican / democrat thing.

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Jan 17, 2019 13:53:45   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
jcboy3 wrote:
There is no way to determine if the universe is cyclical, or not, or even unique.


So Hawking, Greene, Penrose et al using actual science are all wrong?

But in spite of all the weasel words you still didnt answer myquestion

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Jan 17, 2019 14:05:53   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
letmedance wrote:
The Big Bang was the end of the preceding universe that collapsed back into tiny ball of super dense matter that reached a critical mass and created a big Nuclear bang which created the current universe. Billions or trillions of years from now our universe will collapse and another bang will happen. Space has no beginning or end and time is defined by humans.

Sorry no God involved, well not for me anyway, others believe different and that is their right.


I may be even less informed about the "big bang" then I thought I was, and I had no illusion that I was very informed. This part about the collapse of a previous universe, is it a theory supported by at least some scientists, or is it just what makes sense to you? Np judgement either way.

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Jan 17, 2019 14:07:50   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
LWW wrote:
Swing and a miss as it is well established physics that the universe lacks sufficient mass to revert to a singularity.

That being said, you answered a question that I didn’t ask.


He stated that it is what he believes, so unless you know a lot more about him than most of us do, you can't call it false.

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Jan 17, 2019 14:13:00   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Forget about v***r f***d. I listed some of the things ID is needed for. Who finds it difficult to get ID when it is required for everything.

We are just going to have to disagree on the republican / democrat thing.


It depends on the rules and what ID is required. A while back (maybe a couple of years) Jim Wright (former speaker of the house, since you may not know) had major difficulties obtaining ID that was acceptable to v**e in Texas.

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Jan 17, 2019 14:23:46   #
Frosty Loc: Minnesota
 
LWW wrote:
So Hawking, Greene, Penrose et al using actual science are all wrong?

But in spite of all the weasel words you still didnt answer myquestion


Two questions for you.
1. What specifically are you referring to in regards to what I said that is in conflict with these scientists? Otherwise your question is way to general to answer.

2. I don't know what question you are referring today, so what is the question?

So, you don't like my "weasel" words as you call them. I was not trying to answer any question that you asked me. I was simply stating my belief system that combines spiritually with science. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs......including me. I see no reason to defend it, as I see no reason to attack yours, however I would like to hear what you believe.

EDIT!!! I think I an addressing the above to something intended for someone else. Disregard or what ever.

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