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Dec 27, 2018 09:53:17   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
Rose42 wrote:
Technically those are raises but in reality that's nothing especially after taxes. While I was in we got the same piddly little raises and still lived below the poverty line.


Yes they are very small raises.

I don't think any of the military is paid enough.

Still we had a President that has to make himself feel greater than he is; and stand up and lie to the faces of people in the military.

It just shows what a small man he is.

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Dec 27, 2018 09:57:47   #
EyeSawYou
 


So how do you know of Trump was lying about it or just mistaken about it? Even the link YOU provided didn't make that claim as you did.


Trump seems confused about military pay, claims troops received no raises for a decade

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Dec 27, 2018 10:01:05   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
So how do you know of Trump was lying about it or just mistaken about it?


It is amazing how the right wing makes excuses for Trump.

If the leader of the military doesn't know the facts about the military; it shows he is not fit for his job.

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Dec 27, 2018 10:12:11   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
BigWahoo wrote:
A lie is a lie.


And a hypocrite is a hypocrite ... and until you hold D's to the same standard on statements, you will remain one.

One of Trump's strengths and weaknesses is that he often speaks without a teleprompter, and this opens one up to human error.

Obama's ummm weakness errr was that he ummm, just simply uhhh couldn't ummm speak without a teleprompter without errr ummmm uhhh appearing to be an i***t.

Was he lying when he said he saw dead people in a crowd, or just a moron?

Was he lying when he read the wrong speech off a TP, immediately after hearing someone else give it, or just an i***t?

Was he lying when he couldn't spell O-H-I-O, or just an illiterate?

All I expect from my l*****t friends are discussion points of a fair and balanced nature ... yet y'all seem to find a way to fail overtime.

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Dec 27, 2018 10:28:58   #
EyeSawYou
 
BigWahoo wrote:
It is amazing how the right wing makes excuses for Trump.

If the leader of the military doesn't know the facts about the military; it shows he is not fit for his job.


It's amazing how you just lied about what I said while accusing Trump of lying without sufficient evidence. You have become the 4th biggest lying fool in here. Oh ya, you know who truly unfit to lead the military? Tell me what is much worse, making a verbal mistake in pay raises or fu&*ing up in in Syria and Iraq with ISIS and also a fu&$ up in Lybia?


"Obama admits that his handling of the Libya war was his worst mistake – but not that it was unconstitutional"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/04/13/obama-admits-that-his-handling-of-the-libya-war-was-his-worst-mistake-but-not-that-it-was-unconstitutional/

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Dec 27, 2018 11:55:15   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
It's amazing how you just lied about what I said while accusing Trump of lying without sufficient evidence. You have become the 4th biggest lying fool in here. Oh ya, you know who truly unfit to lead the military? Tell me what is much worse, making a verbal mistake in pay raises or fu&*ing up in in Syria and Iraq with ISIS and also a fu&$ up in Lybia?


"Obama admits that his handling of the Libya war was his worst mistake – but not that it was unconstitutional"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/04/13/obama-admits-that-his-handling-of-the-libya-war-was-his-worst-mistake-but-not-that-it-was-unconstitutional/
It's amazing how you just lied about what I said w... (show quote)


Hey ... this is far worse than Operation Eagle Claw where then Dear Leader Jimmuh Cahtuh sent 8 helos, only 5 of which were serviceable in the end, to take on the nation of Iran.

That cost 8 US and 1 Iranian life and I've never heard a dembot speak negatively about it.

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Dec 27, 2018 12:03:18   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
'Trumpsplainers' gone wild!

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Dec 27, 2018 12:18:02   #
Rose42
 
BigWahoo wrote:
Yes they are very small raises.

I don't think any of the military is paid enough.

Still we had a President that has to make himself feel greater than he is; and stand up and lie to the faces of people in the military.

It just shows what a small man he is.


He's not the first president to be a narcissist. But he's the most overt about it that's for sure.

Most military personnel see right through a president trying to use them for favor.

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Dec 27, 2018 12:50:21   #
EyeSawYou
 
BigWahoo wrote:
'Trumpsplainers' gone wild!


Just as I thought, when a regressive like you gets challenged for your own lies, you create a deflection. Should be progressive liars gone wild, you have become the 4th biggest bullsh*tter on UHH.

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Dec 27, 2018 14:33:11   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Just as I thought, when a regressive like you gets challenged for your own lies, you create a deflection. Should be progressive liars gone wild, you have become the 4th biggest bullsh*tter on UHH.


I know you want to make excuses for Trump but:

He lied about the military raises.

He lied about how long its been since they got a raise

And he lied about how big a raise it is.

That makes Trump a liar no matter how many unrelated things you bring up.

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Dec 27, 2018 14:37:35   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Just as I thought, when a regressive like you gets challenged for your own lies, you create a deflection. Should be progressive liars gone wild, you have become the 4th biggest bullsh*tter on UHH.


"Military personnel received a 2.4 increase in 2018, and their pay will increase by another 2.6 percent in 2019 as a result of the National Defense Authorization Act signed by Trump in August, reported the Los Angeles Times.

Despite the 2.6 percent increase already being the largest in nine years, Trump exaggerated the amount by nearly four times its actual worth. He claimed he fought with “plenty of people” for the figure and repeated the false claim that it was the first raise for the troops in more than 10 years.

"They said, ‘You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3 percent. We could make it 2 percent. We could make it 4 percent,’” Trump said. “I said, ‘No. Make it 10 percent. Make it more than 10 percent.’"

Hear it in his own words here:

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-iraq-troops-pay-rise-president-invents-salary-bump-soldiers-during-1272186

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Dec 27, 2018 14:53:14   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
So how do you know of Trump was lying about it or just mistaken about it? Even the link YOU provided didn't make that claim as you did.


Trump seems confused about military pay, claims troops received no raises for a decade


Mrs Trump3 got a 10% pay rise, that's where Perp1 got confused.

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Dec 27, 2018 14:53:28   #
EyeSawYou
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"Military personnel received a 2.4 increase in 2018, and their pay will increase by another 2.6 percent in 2019 as a result of the National Defense Authorization Act signed by Trump in August, reported the Los Angeles Times.

Despite the 2.6 percent increase already being the largest in nine years, Trump exaggerated the amount by nearly four times its actual worth. He claimed he fought with “plenty of people” for the figure and repeated the false claim that it was the first raise for the troops in more than 10 years.

"They said, ‘You know, we could make it smaller. We could make it 3 percent. We could make it 2 percent. We could make it 4 percent,’” Trump said. “I said, ‘No. Make it 10 percent. Make it more than 10 percent.’"

Hear it in his own words here:

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-iraq-troops-pay-rise-president-invents-salary-bump-soldiers-during-1272186
"Military personnel received a 2.4 increase i... (show quote)


You are the biggest lying fool, were is your evidence that Trump lied about it??

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Dec 27, 2018 14:58:50   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
You are the biggest lying fool, were is your evidence that Trump lied about it??


"If he opens his mouth and says more than 20 words, it's a lie." anonymous WH staffers.

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Dec 27, 2018 15:25:06   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
BigWahoo wrote:
Trump said there had been no pay raise in 10 years.

That was a lie.

e View Pay Table
2017 2.1% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $62.70
2016 1.3% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $38.40
2015 1.0% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $29.10
2014 1.0% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $28.80
2013 1.7% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $48.30
2012 1.6% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $44.70
2011 1.4% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $38.70
2010 3.4% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $90.90
2009 3.9% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $100.20
2008 3.5% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $87.00
2007, April 1.2% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $28.80
2007, January 2.2% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $52.80
2006 3.1% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $72.30
2005 3.5% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $78.90
2004 4.6% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $99.00

https://www.federalpay.org/military/raises
Trump said there had been no pay raise in 10 years... (show quote)



If this is your big wahoo for the day, go take a nap. Yours is a zero post.

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