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Trump lies about military pay, claims troops received no raises for a decade
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Dec 27, 2018 08:23:03   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
"WASHINGTON — Speaking to a crowd of military spouses on Wednesday, President Donald Trump incorrectly claimed that his administration gave service members their first pay raise in 10 years, a moment he was “proud” to oversee.

In fact, troops have seen a pay raise of at least 1 percent every year for more than 30 years. The 2018 military pay raise — which was 2.4 percent — was the largest for the armed forces in eight years."

https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benefits/2018/05/09/trump-confused-about-military-pay-claims-troops-saw-no-raises-for-a-decade/

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Dec 27, 2018 08:33:31   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
BIG WAHOO clearly either doesn't understand the issue or is maliciously misleading.

From a link contained within yours:

But the 2.4 percent figure is also the mark mandated as the standard pay raise under federal law.

In past years, the White House and Congress have gone below those expected levels in an effort to save money for other military priorities. Outside groups have argued this amounts to a cut in military pay, since those lower pay raises fail to keep pace with the cost of living.


Oh dear:

https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benefits/2017/11/20/2018-military-pay-raise-is-the-biggest-in-eight-years-but-how-generous-is-it/

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Dec 27, 2018 08:35:06   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
LWW wrote:
BIG WAHOO clearly either doesn't understand the issue or is maliciously misleading.

From a link contained within yours:

But the 2.4 percent figure is also the mark mandated as the standard pay raise under federal law.

In past years, the White House and Congress have gone below those expected levels in an effort to save money for other military priorities. Outside groups have argued this amounts to a cut in military pay, since those lower pay raises fail to keep pace with the cost of living.


Oh dear:

https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benefits/2017/11/20/2018-military-pay-raise-is-the-biggest-in-eight-years-but-how-generous-is-it/
BIG WAHOO clearly either doesn't understand the is... (show quote)

Trump said there had been NO pay raise for 10 years.

That is a 'lie'.

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Dec 27, 2018 08:37:32   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
LWW wrote:
BIG WAHOO clearly either doesn't understand the issue or is maliciously misleading.

From a link contained within yours:

But the 2.4 percent figure is also the mark mandated as the standard pay raise under federal law.

In past years, the White House and Congress have gone below those expected levels in an effort to save money for other military priorities. Outside groups have argued this amounts to a cut in military pay, since those lower pay raises fail to keep pace with the cost of living.


Oh dear:

https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benefits/2017/11/20/2018-military-pay-raise-is-the-biggest-in-eight-years-but-how-generous-is-it/
BIG WAHOO clearly either doesn't understand the is... (show quote)

You can listen to Trump lying in his own words here:

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-iraq-troops-pay-rise-president-invents-salary-bump-soldiers-during-1272186

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Dec 27, 2018 08:38:46   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
LWW wrote:
BIG WAHOO clearly either doesn't understand the issue or is maliciously misleading.

From a link contained within yours:

But the 2.4 percent figure is also the mark mandated as the standard pay raise under federal law.

In past years, the White House and Congress have gone below those expected levels in an effort to save money for other military priorities. Outside groups have argued this amounts to a cut in military pay, since those lower pay raises fail to keep pace with the cost of living.


Oh dear:

https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benefits/2017/11/20/2018-military-pay-raise-is-the-biggest-in-eight-years-but-how-generous-is-it/
BIG WAHOO clearly either doesn't understand the is... (show quote)


I know that you and your fellow cultists believe that Trump telling lies is just fine.

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Dec 27, 2018 08:40:47   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
The military has received at least a 1% pay raise every year for the last 30 years.

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Dec 27, 2018 08:44:23   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
"At the end of every year the federal government determines if, and by how much, the basic pay tables will increase. The increase is calculated based on the annual increase in the Employment Cost Index (ECI)."

https://www.federalpay.org/military/raises

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Dec 27, 2018 08:46:30   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
It is not in dispute that Trump is a compulsive liar. The world knows that.

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Dec 27, 2018 08:57:10   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"WASHINGTON — Speaking to a crowd of military spouses on Wednesday, President Donald Trump incorrectly claimed that his administration gave service members their first pay raise in 10 years, a moment he was “proud” to oversee.

In fact, troops have seen a pay raise of at least 1 percent every year for more than 30 years. The 2018 military pay raise — which was 2.4 percent — was the largest for the armed forces in eight years."

https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benefits/2018/05/09/trump-confused-about-military-pay-claims-troops-saw-no-raises-for-a-decade/
"WASHINGTON — Speaking to a crowd of military... (show quote)



1 percent is nothing. You are going to ramble on over 8 years versus 10 years. Who cares?

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Dec 27, 2018 09:16:33   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
BigWahoo wrote:
The military has received at least a 1% pay raise every year for the last 30 years.


A 1% "pay raise" is a de facto pay cut.

Grow up.

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Dec 27, 2018 09:26:41   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
LWW wrote:
A 1% "pay raise" is a de facto pay cut.

Grow up.


And a "little lie" is not as bad as a "big lie".

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Dec 27, 2018 09:34:32   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
1 percent is nothing. You are going to ramble on over 8 years versus 10 years. Who cares?


Trump said there had been no pay raise in 10 years.

That was a lie.

e View Pay Table
2017 2.1% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $62.70
2016 1.3% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $38.40
2015 1.0% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $29.10
2014 1.0% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $28.80
2013 1.7% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $48.30
2012 1.6% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $44.70
2011 1.4% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $38.70
2010 3.4% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $90.90
2009 3.9% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $100.20
2008 3.5% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $87.00
2007, April 1.2% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $28.80
2007, January 2.2% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $52.80
2006 3.1% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $72.30
2005 3.5% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $78.90
2004 4.6% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $99.00

https://www.federalpay.org/military/raises

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Dec 27, 2018 09:36:52   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
He also said they were getting a 10% raise.

That is a lie.

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Dec 27, 2018 09:38:53   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
LWW wrote:
A 1% "pay raise" is a de facto pay cut.

Grow up.


A lie is a lie.

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Dec 27, 2018 09:47:43   #
Rose42
 
BigWahoo wrote:
Trump said there had been no pay raise in 10 years.

That was a lie.

e View Pay Table
2017 2.1% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $62.70
2016 1.3% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $38.40
2015 1.0% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $29.10
2014 1.0% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $28.80
2013 1.7% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $48.30
2012 1.6% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $44.70
2011 1.4% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $38.70
2010 3.4% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $90.90
2009 3.9% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $100.20
2008 3.5% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $87.00
2007, April 1.2% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $28.80
2007, January 2.2% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $52.80
2006 3.1% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $72.30
2005 3.5% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $78.90
2004 4.6% An E-5 member with over 8 years of service would receive a monthly raise of $99.00

https://www.federalpay.org/military/raises
Trump said there had been no pay raise in 10 years... (show quote)


Technically those are raises but in reality that's nothing especially after taxes. While I was in we got the same piddly little raises and still lived below the poverty line.

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