jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

There there now.... it's going to be all right. There there now.

Peteso Loc: Blacks Hills

I am using LR6 because I don't like subscription software. More importantly, my understanding is that CC is not as feature rich as LR6. Is that correct? Also, I am not using PS because I can't find any place to purchase it. Does anyone know where I can buy it? If not, is the subscription version ("CC") compatible with LR6? Thanks to all...

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

I doubt that. Nikon has no reason to redesign the entire nef specification for each camera. The physical differences in sensor characteristics including the sensor dimensions are already covered by constants embedded in the nef file using standard Nikon tags.

It's more likely that a nef from a Z7 and Z6 is otherwise identical to one from a D850, D750 or even a crop sensor Nikon or Nikon 1.

Maybe someone would like to prove that by trying to process a nef from a Z6 or Z7 using Capture NX2 or Picture Window Pro. Or they can PM me a copy of a nef from any Nikon model released after 2015 and I will see if I can open it with either program. If I can I will be happy to post the results.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

A bit off topic, but here is another irritant from Adobe.

I just wasted ten minutes removing Avast Antivirus that got installed without my permission by Adobe during an Acrobat Reader update.

Now I have to reboot my computer to complete the uninstall.

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

There is a lot of confusion over the designation of the various releases. Lightroom CC is the "mobile" version, which allows you to do fairly sophisticated editing on mobile devices like tablets and phones.

Lightroom Classic CC is basically the same as LR6, with monthly updates and upgrades. It works on your desktop or laptop, with or without an Internet connection. You get billed once a month, and commit to a one year subscription when you sign up.

The bundle of Lightroom Classic, Lightroom Mobile (CC) and Photoshop is ten bucks a month, with a couple of other Adobe products included. This includes some cloud storage. For $12.99 you can upgrade and get more cloud storage.

If you discontinue your subscription, you will no longer receive updates, but the Classic CC will continue to operate in whatever your latest version was - at least for a while. All of your edits and exports will remain on your computer so you can have some time to switch over to a new software system.

I don't understand the resistance to the subscription model. It's used for your magazines, newspapers, many websites, and will soon be coming to virtually all software developers and providers - it just makes too much sense for both consumers and developers. But you have the choice, and if you choose another software suite, you'll likely find that it will easily import and work with your old photos processed in Adobe systems. But the day of the perpetual license is coming to a close in virtually all software systems.

Andy

dino21 Loc: McAllen, TX

Agree 100 percent. These people are brainwashed.

scubadoc Loc: Sarasota, FL

To be blunt, you are wrong about this. Any google search will demonstrate what is happening when a new camera model is introduced. To get you started, if you care to persue this, here is a URL addressing this:
https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/46235/did-the-canon-raw-format-change-in-70d

J.B.

Ok this is all good
However PS and LR still convert to PSD when processing raw so your still not getting the most out of your camera
I use PS and LR but convert useing Capture 1, its the only raw processer that I know of which uses your cameras manufactures specs to base thier conversions on

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

I was referring to Nikon, not Canon.

While there may well have been a substantial change in the CR2 spec between a 60D and a 70D, that only happens on occasion, not with every new release.

My offer stands. Anyone can post a nef from any Nikon model newer than 2015 and I will see if either of those two "unsupported" software programs can handle the nef files.

Nikon has been proactive in providing free support for newer cameras, even with Capture NX2. If Adobe were doing their job properly they would not have been surprised by the release of the Z6 as noted earlier.

But I'm not claiming that PWP or NX2 are better than Adobe's software. I prefer Capture One Pro. I only use PWP for scanned B&W film because it can deal with monochrome images, 8- and 16-bit files instead of color 24- and 48-bit files.

AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire

Not sure I understand this. Adobe converts to either TIFF or the proprietary PSD, and will also export JPEGs. What format does Capture 1, which I've heard good things about, but do not use, save files in? Or are you referring to the import process?

Andy

scubadoc Loc: Sarasota, FL

Well, here you go for Nikon and their difficulties with different NEF file types.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2346812

WGWATSON

Not entirely true. If your were to cancel your credit card so that Adobe could not receive the monthly payment, you will not be able to start the program. The program is apparently set up to check each time you activate your program to see if you have paid within the months window.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Capture One exports JPEG and TIFF files (and several other formats) after processing the raw file. It saves the processing instructions either in a central catalog (like Adobe) or in separate mini catalogs (sessions) that behave like sidecar files.

Sessions are one of the reasons I prefer CO. Since all of the files pertinent to a session can be kept in a single directory, they are easy to backup, archive or transfer to a different computer.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

The D7500 cam out in April 2017. That complaint was posted in March 2018, 11 months later. What's Adobe's excuse?

Selene03

Use whatever software you want. I can't imagine anyone here really cares; I certainly don't. I think the rant about the subscription (which comes to $120.00 a year for a product which has been improving dramatically) is silly. But process your photos with whatever you like. I wish though that professionals wouldn't mislead others with misinformation like "Elements is just as good as" or "you have to be connected to the cloud via the Internet to use the product" would stop perpetuating this nonsense to others who are trying to learn how to process photos (and yes, I was in a college class where the instructor went on the rant and said this to his poor unsuspecting students). Ok, that is my rant. As one of the posters stated earlier, you have to be connected to the cloud to set up the program, but not to use it. I also like the way I can use it on both my laptop and desktop by signing out of one and signing on to the other. There are other programs out there that are free or less expensive, but one shouldn't underestimate the significance of the ability to process photos with a quality product that is probably more affordable now than it was 10-15 years ago when you had to buy the whole package for several hundred dollars and then upgrade it annually for almost what you pay for it in monthly fees.