No wonder kids can't learn
Nov 23, 2018 09:41:33 #
To me one problem is that teacher do not have a good back ground in the field their are teaching in. My mother was a teacher, her background was a degree in history, than degree in teaching. Being a mother of four kids, she understand how kids acted. I have people talk to me and when their find out who my mother was. Said she was one dam good teacher, that people saying that 50 years after she was their teacher.
Nov 23, 2018 09:49:25 #
StanMac
Loc: Tennessee
Probably happened at a charter/private school. They can hire anyone to teach.
Stan
Stan
Nov 23, 2018 09:59:28 #
Huey Driver wrote:
No wonder kids can't learn br br Young people can... (show quote)
Quite the feat considering that he has been DEAD since July 28, 2014!
Nov 23, 2018 10:10:39 #
SueScott wrote:
Students are not being educated, they are being taught to take tests and math scores have plummeted b/c of Common Core. Government schools are producing a semi-literate proletariat, not educated, useful citizens. I'm a firm believer in homeschooling, and if that is not possible, a good private school.
I agree that people 30 and under are clueless about history.
When in a restaurant I will ask a simple question like who was the first president of the USA and 8 out of 10 times the waitress/waiter have no clue.
Nov 23, 2018 10:13:39 #
That’s an interesting story since Van Kirk died in 2014.
See ...https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/us/30vankirk.html
See ...https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/us/30vankirk.html
Nov 23, 2018 10:24:27 #
StanMac wrote:
Probably happened at a charter/private school. They can hire anyone to teach.
Stan
Stan
The public school system is a cesspool.
Nov 23, 2018 10:25:18 #
StanMac
Loc: Tennessee
I wonder how much time any of the posters here who are denigrating today’s public school educators have spent in a classroom observing what actually goes on. Most of the crap about how bad public schools are is just that, crap, and is being propagated by the politically well connected and well heeled charter/private school lobby who want to funnel our school tax dollars into private hands for profit. Public schools are non-profit. Charter and private schools are for profit enterprises where education is a commodity and the cost of providing it should be minimized to maximize profits. Guess who suffers from this business model - it’s certainly not the owners/shareholders in the charter/private schools.
Stan
Stan
Nov 23, 2018 10:31:33 #
StanMac wrote:
I wonder how much time any of the posters here who... (show quote)
How about NYC public school system? The public school system is for profit. The teachers' profit. They work about 180 days a year. Get health and pension benefits. Very rarely get fired for not educating their students. When they get to the 12th grade they have perhaps a 9th-grade education. The teachers union will gladly protect incompetent teachers. Their profits come from teachers union dues.
Nov 23, 2018 10:34:51 #
splitload wrote:
In my area of Flordia, if it isn't part of the State Standards test, it isn't taught. The schools are graded on the student's scores and the higher the school grade the more money that school gets. It is just like everything else, money is the goal, not education.
An educated person makes money. That should be the goal of every person. The people who spend a generation or two on every entitlement program have found there is no need for education. The 45% who pay taxes will support these people over and over again.
Nov 23, 2018 11:04:30 #
jwn
Loc: SOUTHEAST GEORGIA USA
public education is a mess. I retired to gated community on golf course near the beach in Georgia and don't have to pay any school tax. The Country Commissioner is a retired heart surgeon and does not pay school tax. They don't care if the kids get educated, just starve any form of government of $$$. This tax plan was passed on republican legislation written up by AmericanEnterprise institute and pass by County without any idea of the funding problems it created. The first year it went into effect the school panicked as over 12 million in revenue disappeared. They kept the football program but gutted everything else. So the kids here know the win loss stats for the local teams but can't make change if you use cash at the register.
Nov 23, 2018 11:13:18 #
jwn
Loc: SOUTHEAST GEORGIA USA
This story has been floating around on the internet for several years. It has not been substantiated by any source.
Nov 23, 2018 11:25:35 #
Longshadow wrote:
Another possibility - she didn't care to listen in class. I know some like that, but who knows.
Definitely nasty if the in depth history is not actually being taught anymore.
Definitely nasty if the in depth history is not actually being taught anymore.
One wonders, if they are not listening, how do they pass the tests and get promoted to the next grade, never mind graduate? Doesn't say much for our average school system. I guess that's why we are something like 47th in the world in education.
Nov 23, 2018 11:40:12 #
2Dragons wrote:
One wonders, if they are not listening, how do they pass the tests and get promoted to the next grade, never mind graduate? Doesn't say much for our average school system. I guess that's why we are something like 47th in the world in education.
Passing grades is only a matter of being alive, no effort required.
Nov 23, 2018 11:56:47 #
I do see one of the problems teaching a required class. The teachers are saddled with kids who don't want to be there, so the lessons slow down. The students who are there to actually learn end up bored and frustrated by the slow pace. Physics was one of most enjoyable high school classes, because everyone who signed up for it really wanted to learn the stuff. Sadly, even though my school was a large one, I couldn't take an English Literature class because there wasn't enough student interest in that subject. My counselor was also shocked when she found that out.
Nov 23, 2018 12:38:09 #
traderjohn wrote:
There are no more levels of expectation. This way no one has to excel at anything important. Functional illiteracy is the new norm.
Because someone's feeling might get hurt if they are allowed to "fail". I could say more but it would get too political for this section.
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