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Nov 14, 2018 16:39:38   #
jak86094
 
Edie,

I know. It's a problem...do I want a picture that's unbalanced or that has an ugly fence in the foreground. Unbalanced photos drive me crazy, and the fence was there in reality. Since you weren't there, you don't have that image in your mind...I guess I do and so maybe I'm more forgiving in my previsualized image having a fence in it. I don't have a good solution except to comp in some other foreground, and I really don't like that idea. I guess the solution would be to take a better picture in the first place. I enjoy this conversation and appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.

jak

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Nov 14, 2018 19:54:55   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
jak86094 wrote:
Which do you prefer? This is the same bird as part of a sequence as it flew from its fencetop perch. I love the position of the bird (wings, head, body and legs) in #1, but the wings are crowded at the top. Still, most of the subject, especially the point of focus on the face and eyes, is well within the frame so maybe this isn't too bad. I think the positioning of the wings, head, body and legs is also very elegant in #2, but not as nice as #1. There is more room around the subject, especially at the top. In both, there is room for the bird to fly into, so that's OK. So which do you think is best and why? Would you crop either differently or otherwise change the composition, post processing, etc.? I look forward to your comments and suggestions.

jak
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Beautiful clear shots. My choice would be #1 -- I don't like the juxtaposition of the beak and the fence in the second shot.

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Nov 14, 2018 20:27:04   #
ediesaul
 
I guess I don't find the picture unbalanced. Rather, the horizontal bar anchors the bird. My own taste chooses not to have the ugly fence. But, in the end, the image is yours and your vision must prevail because you alone must be happy with it.

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Nov 14, 2018 21:01:59   #
jak86094
 
ediesaul wrote:
I guess I don't find the picture unbalanced. Rather, the horizontal bar anchors the bird. My own taste chooses not to have the ugly fence. But, in the end, the image is yours and your vision must prevail because you alone must be happy with it.


That's part of the fun of photography...having different visions and being able to realize them...or not. I took a shot at PP of #1, applying many of your suggestions, but including my preferences. See below.

jak

Edited Egret Image
Edited Egret Image...
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Nov 15, 2018 09:12:22   #
ediesaul
 
jak86094 wrote:
That's part of the fun of photography...having different visions and being able to realize them...or not. I took a shot at PP of #1, applying many of your suggestions, but including my preferences. See below.

jak


Wow! I like it!!!

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Nov 15, 2018 11:13:33   #
jak86094
 
ediesaul wrote:
Wow! I like it!!!


Thanks, that’s high praise. I appreciate your thoughts and suggestions, but even more, I appreciate the chance to compare our ideas and, hopefully, create a better photo. It was fun and productive. Thanks again.

jak

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Nov 16, 2018 10:03:49   #
wham121736 Loc: Long Island, New York
 
allanj wrote:
I prefer #1 if most of the fence is cropped out.


To expand the sky above #1 first expand the canvas size above the image. Then edit, fill , content aware. To avoid a sharp line where the old and new regions meet expand the added area 1 or 2 pixels before filling. This is an abbreviated explanation but should give you enough info to search for instructions on using comtent aware full.

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Nov 17, 2018 10:17:53   #
GregWCIL Loc: Illinois
 
Neither. The fence ruins both.

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Nov 18, 2018 20:14:56   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
#1 for me.

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Nov 18, 2018 20:24:37   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
I like Edie's edit. That's what I was going to suggest. She took out all the unnecessary fence which brings the focus to the bird, which is correct. I'm not sure if the rules in this section have changed but it's not considered good form to edit someone else's photo without getting permission first. That aside, I like the picture a lot better the way Edie did it.

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