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Nov 14, 2018 09:48:22   #
BarbB
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I know you are looking to rent a second camera, but, have you considered buying a used one. The reason I bring this up is, the 80D, (a great camera, I have one), being a crop sensor camera, doesn't really give you more reach over a full frame camera, it's just a crop of what you'd get from your full frame.
Renting an 80D is certainly the least expensive route at around $200 for the three weeks but a trip to the African continent with almost endless photo opertunities pretty much demands the best gear you can bring.
Here is what I'm talking about. A used 5D mk II would cost almost as much to rent for 3 weeks as it would cost to buy one. The reason I suggest the 5D II is, it is similar in megapixel count to the 80D, 21 vs 24 but the pixels in the 5D II are almost twice the size as those in the 80D. With a good size telephoto zoom (or prime) and cropping, in theory the image quality of the photos from the 5D II would be much better than the 80D.
The 5D II is a very sturdy, well made camera that can definitely stand up to rugged use. It's also pretty good at video. You already have a mk IV so you're familiar with the camera ergonomics and menus and decent used ones aren't expensive, and it uses the same battery as your mk IV.
Just a suggestion...
I know you are looking to rent a second camera, bu... (show quote)


The issue is my longest lens is canon 70-300L and with the cropped sensor I can get more reach. We will be in Namibia and with the dust I would not want to risk changing lenses. I thought by renting, I might be able to put off buying a “back up camera” until canon released a new model that I would be happier with than what I find available now. But, yes, I am concerned about image quality.. that’s why I didn’t want to buy something I’m bit excited about..

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Nov 14, 2018 10:06:56   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
You might want to think about buying a used or refurb for your trip...then when you get back sell it...i dont like renting anything except maybe a car while traveling...anyway just my 2 cents worth...

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Nov 14, 2018 10:11:29   #
jmsail365 Loc: Stamford, Ct
 
I have used Lens Rental twice they have great to deal with.

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Nov 14, 2018 10:44:17   #
BarbB
 
Actually I have been considering that.. I keep watching sales, especially with Black Friday coming up.. I am trying to figure out if cost of rental will be close to loss I would take if I bought and resold an already discounted camera.. if the math works.. I would consider that

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Nov 14, 2018 10:46:15   #
BarbB
 
Sorry . Replied to this below and didn’t hit “quote reply 😩”
charlienow wrote:
You might want to think about buying a used or refurb for your trip...then when you get back sell it...i dont like renting anything except maybe a car while traveling...anyway just my 2 cents worth...

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Nov 14, 2018 11:23:31   #
Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY
 
BarbB wrote:
I m going on a 3 week trip to Southern Africa this spring, and am planning to rent a back up camera ( I currently shoot with a Canon 5DM4, and was thinking of an 80D for more range with a long lens when on Safari). I was wondering which company have you used, and how satisfied are you with that company? Thanks for any imput.


I have used both Lens Rental and Borrowlenses. Recommend them both.

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Nov 14, 2018 18:53:01   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
Sammy’s in SoCal

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Nov 14, 2018 18:53:06   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
Sammy’s in SoCal

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Nov 14, 2018 20:37:25   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
BarbB wrote:
The issue is my longest lens is canon 70-300L and with the cropped sensor I can get more reach. We will be in Namibia and with the dust I would not want to risk changing lenses. I thought by renting, I might be able to put off buying a “back up camera” until canon released a new model that I would be happier with than what I find available now. But, yes, I am concerned about image quality.. that’s why I didn’t want to buy something I’m bit excited about..


Unfortunately your statement of more reach is incorrect you now said this twice the sensor on a Csnon 80D is 24x16 it’s APS-C sensor if you use 7-300L lens on the APS-C your FOV is in the center your not gaining anything with the smaller sensor!

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Nov 14, 2018 20:52:14   #
BarbB
 
Ok.. it’s my understanding that with the 80d my lens at 300 would act as if it’s 480..doesn’t that give me “more reach”..unless you think that with a full frame and cropped in post I would have equal quality
RichardSM wrote:
Unfortunately your statement of more reach is incorrect you now said this twice the sensor on a Csnon 80D is 24x16 it’s APS-C sensor if you use 7-300L lens on the APS-C your FOV is in the center your not gaining anything with the smaller sensor!

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Nov 14, 2018 21:25:19   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
BarbB wrote:
Ok.. it’s my understanding that with the 80d my lens at 300 would act as if it’s 480..doesn’t that give me “more reach”..unless you think that with a full frame and cropped in post I would have equal quality


I know you been told this but it’s wrong a 70mm to 300mm L is still 70to300mm the way the lens work on the smaller sensor it’s focused on center of the sensor it looks like it bigger it not remember what I pointed out first FOV field of view. You can go google and see this and compare sensors what’s happening. You certainly are not going to to get more magifacation out of 70-300mm lens.

Try this site see if this makes sense to you see below
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor_format

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Nov 14, 2018 22:16:49   #
BarbB
 
Thanks
RichardSM wrote:
I know you been told this but it’s wrong a 70mm to 300mm L is still 70to300mm the way the lens work on the smaller sensor it’s focused on center of the sensor it looks like it bigger it not remember what I pointed out first FOV field of view. You can go google and see this and compare sensors what’s happening. You certainly are not going to to get more magifacation out of 70-300mm lens.

Try this site see if this makes sense to you see below
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor_format
I know you been told this but it’s wrong a 70mm to... (show quote)

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Nov 15, 2018 00:54:01   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
BarbB wrote:
The issue is my longest lens is canon 70-300L and with the cropped sensor I can get more reach. We will be in Namibia and with the dust I would not want to risk changing lenses. I thought by renting, I might be able to put off buying a “back up camera” until canon released a new model that I would be happier with than what I find available now. But, yes, I am concerned about image quality.. that’s why I didn’t want to buy something I’m bit excited about..


I understand what you are saying, and that is part of the reason I suggested what I did. First and most importantly, you need to understand that the crop sensor does not give your 70-300 any extra reach. If you take a photograph with your full frame camera and a photograph with an 80D, same focal length, same location, then crop away the portion of the full frame image that is not in the crop frame camera image, the images will pretty much be the same.
A smaller sensor does not magnify the image, it simply reduces that amount of area there is to record with.
That is why I suggested the 5D mk II. With it's full frame sensor, 21 megapixel resolution and large pixels, a cropped image will have better IQ than what the 80D is capable of.
I also have the EF 70-300L, nice lens. I don't use it as much as I use to since I got the EF 100-400L II. One of the biggest advantages the 100-400 has over the 70-300, other than focal length, is how well the EF 1.4X teleconverter works with it. If at all possible, you may want to consider selling or trading in the 70-300 and picking up a 100-400L II and if at all possible, the EF 1.4X III teleconverter.
Best of luck with whatever you decide and enjoy your trip.

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Nov 15, 2018 02:44:42   #
BarbB
 
Thank you again.. what you explained makes perfect sense.. and truth be told, I have been looking at the Canon 100-400 I as well :-)

rmorrison1116 wrote:
I understand what you are saying, and that is part of the reason I suggested what I did. First and most importantly, you need to understand that the crop sensor does not give your 70-300 any extra reach. If you take a photograph with your full frame camera and a photograph with an 80D, same focal length, same location, then crop away the portion of the full frame image that is not in the crop frame camera image, the images will pretty much be the same.
A smaller sensor does not magnify the image, it simply reduces that amount of area there is to record with.
That is why I suggested the 5D mk II. With it's full frame sensor, 21 megapixel resolution and large pixels, a cropped image will have better IQ than what the 80D is capable of.
I also have the EF 70-300L, nice lens. I don't use it as much as I use to since I got the EF 100-400L II. One of the biggest advantages the 100-400 has over the 70-300, other than focal length, is how well the EF 1.4X teleconverter works with it. If at all possible, you may want to consider selling or trading in the 70-300 and picking up a 100-400L II and if at all possible, the EF 1.4X III teleconverter.
Best of luck with whatever you decide and enjoy your trip.
I understand what you are saying, and that is part... (show quote)

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Nov 15, 2018 02:49:46   #
BarbB
 
Thank you all very much for your help!

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