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Nov 13, 2018 22:46:43   #
alx Loc: NJ
 
Hal81 wrote:
Obummer done more to take this great country down than anyone before him. The only one that could have been worse was Hillary the bag lady. We lucked out by keeping that bag out of the white house.

Let's get something clear as a starting point. Obama inherited an economy that thanks to an UNFUNDED war and rampant WALL ST ABUSE was on the verge of absolute collapse according to the vast majority of real life economists. Not just the US, but the GDMF GLOBAL economy. Republicans love to avoid remembering what they left the country with.

If there was any economy when the Donald took over, you can thank Obama. That recovery was greatly hampered by 6 years of an obstructionist Republican congress, whose Republican Senate Leader in 2009, later Majority obstructionist Leader John Boehner, vowed to do EVERYTHING HE COULD to make that man (Obama) FAIL. His words the morning Obama was sworn in.

By Trumps definition, well, he'd say TREASON. Considering the state of the economy that day, while not legally Treason, it sure as hell was a betrayal of the American people, and that even includes you.

BTW, the Donald loved the chaos, using it to line his pockets. Stuffing his pockets is the other thing he does besides lie.

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Nov 13, 2018 22:53:10   #
alx Loc: NJ
 
JamesCurran wrote:
If Trump were the type of person who might find a cure for cancer, we'd love him.

If he were that person, he'd be like his friend and failed NJ Senate candidate Bob Hugin. He'd raise the price for it 3 times.

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Nov 14, 2018 07:31:32   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
drainbamage wrote:
Nothing we can say will make the Dems stop attacking Trump. He could cure cancer, and they would complain that he is putting Oncologists out of their jobs. The real issue was that the Secret Service grounded Marine One because of very low, almost zero visibility, (meaning cloud coverage almost to the ground). Trump himself suggested to the SS that they drive to the event. The SS nixed that because it was too far from the airport, and there was a large traffic shutdown in Paris that would have delayed the one and a half hour (one way) trip even longer. The Dems spin this to make it look like the President was afraid his hair would get wet! They should have come up with something a little more believable, since the next day he gave a speech in a cemetery just outside of Paris in the pouring rain.
Nothing we can say will make the Dems stop attacki... (show quote)


Of course the dems will lie to make it SEEM like they are right. Since when did the lib f*****t socialist dems ever care about the t***h????

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Nov 14, 2018 07:40:21   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Of course the dems will lie to make it SEEM like they are right. Since when did the lib f*****t socialist dems ever care about the t***h????


HAVE YOU NO SHAME

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Nov 14, 2018 09:34:13   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
thom w wrote:
HAVE YOU NO SHAME


There you go again, reverting to preschool age. That kind of crap of "you have no shame" might work on the ilk of people you hang out with, but it doesn't work on adults. You want to talk about shame, you are the guy who supports murdering babies and open borders. You really are a lib f*****t socialist dem piece of work.

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Nov 14, 2018 13:13:39   #
alx Loc: NJ
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
There you go again, reverting to preschool age. That kind of crap of "you have no shame" might work on the ilk of people you hang out with, but it doesn't work on adults. You want to talk about shame, you are the guy who supports murdering babies and open borders. You really are a lib f*****t socialist dem piece of work.

Elaine... At least get part of something right. THE F*****T IS THE ONE SITTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

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Nov 14, 2018 14:10:11   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
alx wrote:
Elaine... At least get part of something right. THE F*****T IS THE ONE SITTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE.


Disagree, it is the lefties calling themselves progressive.

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Nov 14, 2018 14:48:18   #
pendennis
 
Texcaster wrote:
Trump was no Nixon, let one of his attic supporters write his obit.


He Was a Crook- H****r S Thompson - A scathing obituary of Richard Nixon, originally published in Rolling Stone on June 16, 1994

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1994/07/he-was-a-crook/308699/

MEMO FROM THE NATIONAL AFFAIRS DESK

DATE: MAY 1, 1994
FROM: DR. H****R S. THOMPSON
SUBJECT: THE DEATH OF RICHARD NIXON: NOTES ON THE PASSING OF AN AMERICAN MONSTER.... HE WAS A LIAR AND A QUITTER, AND HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN BURIED AT SEA.... BUT HE WAS, AFTER ALL, THE PRESIDENT.

"And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit and a cage of every unclean and h**eful bird."
---Revelation 18:2
Richard Nixon is gone now, and I am poorer for it. He was the real thing -- a political monster straight out of Grendel and a very dangerous enemy. He could shake your hand and stab you in the back at the same time. He lied to his friends and betrayed the trust of his family. Not even Gerald Ford, the unhappy ex-president who pardoned Nixon and kept him out of prison, was immune to the evil fallout. Ford, who believes strongly in Heaven and Hell, has told more than one of his celebrity golf partners that "I know I will go to hell, because I pardoned Richard Nixon."

I have had my own bloody relationship with Nixon for many years, but I am not worried about it landing me in hell with him. I have already been there with that bastard, and I am a better person for it. Nixon had the unique ability to make his enemies seem honorable, and we developed a keen sense of fraternity. Some of my best friends have h**ed Nixon all their lives. My mother h**es Nixon, my son h**es Nixon, I h**e Nixon, and this hatred has brought us together.

Nixon laughed when I told him this. "Don't worry," he said, "I, too, am a family man, and we feel the same way about you."

It was Richard Nixon who got me into politics, and now that he's gone, I feel lonely. He was a giant in his way. As long as Nixon was politically alive -- and he was, all the way to the end -- we could always be sure of finding the enemy on the Low Road. There was no need to look anywhere else for the evil bastard. He had the fighting instincts of a badger trapped by hounds. The badger will roll over on its back and emit a smell of death, which confuses the dogs and lures them in for the traditional ripping and tearing action. But it is usually the badger who does the ripping and tearing. It is a beast that fights best on its back: rolling under the throat of the enemy and seizing it by the head with all four claws.

That was Nixon's style -- and if you forgot, he would k**l you as a lesson to the others. Badgers don't fight fair, bubba. That's why God made dachshunds.

Nixon was a navy man, and he should have been buried at sea. Many of his friends were seagoing people: Bebe Rebozo, Robert Vesco, William F. Buckley Jr., and some of them wanted a full naval burial.

These come in at least two styles, however, and Nixon's immediate family strongly opposed both of them. In the traditionalist style, the dead president's body would be wrapped and sewn loosely in canvas sailcloth and dumped off the stern of a frigate at least 100 miles off the coast and at least 1,000 miles south of San Diego, so the corpse could never wash up on American soil in any recognizable form.

The family opted for cremation until they were advised of the potentially onerous implications of a strictly private, unwitnessed burning of the body of the man who was, after all, the President of the United States. Awkward questions might be raised, dark allusions to Hitler and Rasputin. People would be filing lawsuits to get their hands on the dental charts. Long court battles would be inevitable -- some with liberal cranks b***hing about corpus delicti and habeas corpus and others with giant insurance companies trying not to pay off on his death benefits. Either way, an orgy of greed and duplicity was sure to follow any public hint that Nixon might have somehow f**ed his own death or been cryogenically t***sferred to f*****t Chinese interests on the Central Asian Mainland.

It would also play into the hands of those millions of self-stigmatized patriots like me who believe these things already.

If the right people had been in charge of Nixon's funeral, his casket would have been launched into one of those open-sewage canals that empty into the ocean just south of Los Angeles. He was a swine of a man and a jabbering dupe of a president. Nixon was so crooked that he needed servants to help him screw his pants on every morning. Even his funeral was illegal. He was q***r in the deepest way. His body should have been burned in a trash bin.

These are harsh words for a man only recently canonized by President Clinton and my old friend George McGovern -- but I have written worse things about Nixon, many times, and the record will show that I kicked him repeatedly long before he went down. I beat him like a mad dog with mange every time I got a chance, and I am proud of it. He was scum.

Let there be no mistake in the history books about that. Richard Nixon was an evil man -- evil in a way that only those who believe in the physical reality of the Devil can understand it. He was utterly without ethics or morals or any bedrock sense of decency. Nobody trusted him -- except maybe the Stalinist Chinese, and honest historians will remember him mainly as a rat who kept scrambling to get back on the ship.

It is fitting that Richard Nixon's final gesture to the American people was a clearly illegal series of 21 105-mm howitzer blasts that shattered the peace of a residential neighborhood and permanently disturbed many children. Neighbors also complained about another unsanctioned burial in the yard at the old Nixon place, which was brazenly illegal. "It makes the whole neighborhood like a graveyard," said one. "And it fucks up my children's sense of values."

Many were incensed about the howitzers -- but they knew there was nothing they could do about it -- not with the current president sitting about 50 yards away and laughing at the roar of the cannons. It was Nixon's last war, and he won.

The funeral was a dreary affair, finely staged for TV and shrewdly dominated by ambitious politicians and revisionist historians. The Rev. Billy Graham, still agile and eloquent at the age of 136, was billed as the main speaker, but he was quickly upstaged by two 1996 GOP p**********l candidates: Sen. Bob Dole of Kansas and Gov. Pete Wilson of California, who formally hosted the event and saw his poll numbers crippled when he got blown off the stage by Dole, who somehow seized the No. 3 slot on the roster and uttered such a shameless, self-serving eulogy that even he burst into tears at the end of it.

Dole's stock went up like a rocket and cast him as the early GOP front-runner for '96. Wilson, speaking next, sounded like an Engelbert Humperdinck impersonator and probably won't even be re-elected as governor of California in November.

The historians were strongly represented by the No. 2 speaker, Henry Kissinger, Nixon's secretary of state and himself a zealous revisionist with many axes to grind. He set the tone for the day with a maudlin and spectacularly self-serving portrait of Nixon as even more saintly than his mother and as a president of many godlike accomplishments -- most of them put together in secret by Kissinger, who came to California as part of a huge publicity tour for his new book on diplomacy, genius, Stalin, H. P. Lovecraft and other great minds of our time, including himself and Richard Nixon.

Kissinger was only one of the many historians who suddenly came to see Nixon as more than the sum of his many squalid parts. He seemed to be saying that History will not have to absolve Nixon, because he has already done it himself in a massive act of will and crazed arrogance that already ranks him supreme, along with other Nietzschean supermen like Hitler, Jesus, Bismarck and the Emperor Hirohito. These revisionists have catapulted Nixon to the status of an American Caesar, claiming that when the definitive history of the 20th century is written, no other president will come close to Nixon in stature. "He will dwarf FDR and Truman," according to one scholar from Duke University.

It was all gibberish, of course. Nixon was no more a Saint than he was a Great President. He was more like Sammy Glick than Winston Churchill. He was a cheap crook and a merciless war criminal who bombed more people to death in Laos and Cambodia than the U.S. Army lost in all of World War II, and he denied it to the day of his death. When students at Kent State University, in Ohio, protested the bombing, he connived to have them attacked and slain by troops from the National Guard.

Some people will say that words like scum and rotten are wrong for Objective Journalism -- which is true, but they miss the point. It was the built-in blind spots of the Objective rules and dogma that allowed Nixon to slither into the White House in the first place. He looked so good on paper that you could almost v**e for him sight unseen. He seemed so all-American, so much like Horatio Alger, that he was able to slip through the cracks of Objective Journalism. You had to get Subjective to see Nixon clearly, and the shock of recognition was often painful.

Nixon's meteoric rise from the unemployment line to the vice presidency in six quick years would never have happened if TV had come along 10 years earlier. He got away with his sleazy "my dog Checkers" speech in 1952 because most v**ers heard it on the radio or read about it in the headlines of their local, Republican newspapers. When Nixon finally had to face the TV cameras for real in the 1960 p**********l campaign debates, he got whipped like a red-headed mule. Even die-hard Republican v**ers were shocked by his cruel and incompetent persona. Interestingly, most people who heard those debates on the radio thought Nixon had won. But the mushrooming TV audience saw him as a t***hless used-car salesman, and they v**ed accordingly. It was the first time in 14 years that Nixon lost an e******n.

When he arrived in the White House as VP at the age of 40, he was a smart young man on the rise -- a hubris-crazed monster from the bowels of the American dream with a heart full of h**e and an overweening lust to be President. He had won every office he'd run for and stomped like a N**i on all of his enemies and even some of his friends.

Nixon had no friends except George Will and J. Edgar Hoover (and they both deserted him). It was Hoover's shameless death in 1972 that led directly to Nixon's downfall. He felt helpless and alone with Hoover gone. He no longer had access to either the Director or the Director's ghastly bank of Personal Files on almost everybody in Washington.

Hoover was Nixon's right flank, and when he croaked, Nixon knew how Lee felt when Stonewall Jackson got k**led at Chancellorsville. It permanently exposed Lee's flank and led to the disaster at Gettysburg.

For Nixon, the loss of Hoover led inevitably to the disaster of Watergate. It meant hiring a New Director -- who turned out to be an unfortunate toady named L. Patrick Gray, who squealed like a pig in hot oil the first time Nixon leaned on him. Gray panicked and fingered White House Counsel John Dean, who refused to take the rap and rolled over, instead, on Nixon, who was trapped like a rat by Dean's relentless, vengeful testimony and went all to pieces right in front of our eyes on TV.

That is Watergate, in a nut, for people with seriously diminished attention spans. The real story is a lot longer and reads like a textbook on human treachery. They were all scum, but only Nixon walked free and lived to clear his name. Or at least that's what Bill Clinton says -- and he is, after all, the President of the United States.

Nixon liked to remind people of that. He believed it, and that was why he went down. He was not only a crook but a fool. Two years after he quit, he told a TV journalist that "if the president does it, it can't be illegal."

S**t. Not even Spiro Agnew was that dumb. He was a flat-out, knee-crawling thug with the morals of a weasel on speed. But he was Nixon's vice president for five years, and he only resigned when he was caught red-handed taking cash bribes across his desk in the White House.

Unlike Nixon, Agnew didn't argue. He quit his job and fled in the night to Baltimore, where he appeared the next morning in U.S. District Court, which allowed him to stay out of prison for bribery and extortion in exchange for a guilty (no contest) plea on income-tax evasion. After that he became a major celebrity and played golf and tried to get a Coors distributorship. He never spoke to Nixon again and was an unwelcome guest at the funeral. They called him Rude, but he went anyway. It was one of those Biological Imperatives, like salmon swimming up waterfalls to spawn before they die. He knew he was scum, but it didn't bother him.

Agnew was the Joey Buttafuoco of the Nixon administration, and Hoover was its Caligula. They were brutal, brain-damaged degenerates worse than any hit man out of The Godfather, yet they were the men Richard Nixon trusted most. Together they defined his Presidency.

It would be easy to forget and forgive Henry Kissinger of his crimes, just as he forgave Nixon. Yes, we could do that -- but it would be wrong. Kissinger is a slippery little devil, a world-class hustler with a thick German accent and a very keen eye for weak spots at the top of the power structure. Nixon was one of those, and Super K exploited him mercilessly, all the way to the end.
Trump was no Nixon, let one of his attic supporter... (show quote)


Wow! I'm no fan of Nixon, but to hold the alcohol- and drug-addled writings of H****r Thompson as some type of journalistic c**p stretches "journalism" beyond the breaking point.

While J. Edgar Hoover was no saint, he was also untouchable in his office as FBI Director. Hoover had dirt of some kind on every President since Herbert Hoover. Nixon was only the last.

PS - I knew Thompson before he left Louisville. He was a drunk and a drug user, then, and he never changed. 'Tis a shame that the Hell's Angels didn't beat his worthless ass to death when they had the chance.

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Nov 14, 2018 16:36:07   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
pendennis wrote:
Wow! I'm no fan of Nixon, but to hold the alcohol- and drug-addled writings of H****r Thompson as some type of journalistic c**p stretches "journalism" beyond the breaking point.

While J. Edgar Hoover was no saint, he was also untouchable in his office as FBI Director. Hoover had dirt of some kind on every President since Herbert Hoover. Nixon was only the last.

PS - I knew Thompson before he left Louisville. He was a drunk and a drug user, then, and he never changed. 'Tis a shame that the Hell's Angels didn't beat his worthless ass to death when they had the chance.
Wow! I'm no fan of Nixon, but to hold the alcohol... (show quote)


Thompson was an alcoholic and drug user it's true (and an enthusiastic fan of firearms and ordnance in general) but the excessive over consumption was mostly a pose for the rubes.

Thompson once expressed gratitude to the Gideons for placing a bible in every hotel he ever stayed at. He often needed a lead quote, with no access to his library, he could reliably turn to the Old Testament for "wild and crazy language".

"What everyone gets wrong about H****r S. Thompson" - Salon talks to Timothy Denevi

https://www.salon.com/2018/11/10/what-everyone-gets-wrong-about-h****r-s-thompson/

"It's easy to appreciate H****r S. Thompson first and foremost for his style, for that famous Gonzo prose knocked off so often (and often so poorly) it's almost startling to revisit his work and realize how clear-eyed and articulate both his fear and loathing always were on the page. In Timothy Denevi's new biography, "Freak Kingdom: H****r S. Thompson's Ten-Year Crusade Against American F*****m," fear and loathing receive a re-appraisal as the rhetorical framework that Thompson employed deliberately and with very specific ends in mind while creating some of the most influential journalism of the 1960s and '70s" Salon

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Nov 15, 2018 00:41:18   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
There you go again, reverting to preschool age. That kind of crap of "you have no shame" might work on the ilk of people you hang out with, but it doesn't work on adults. You want to talk about shame, you are the guy who supports murdering babies and open borders. You really are a lib f*****t socialist dem piece of work.


Ma, you would be hard pressed to cite even one person in favor of murdering babies or open borders.

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Nov 15, 2018 07:32:06   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Texcaster wrote:
Ma, you would be hard pressed to cite even one person in favor of murdering babies or open borders.


REALLY? Go back and read some of the posts from Little Thommie, Keenan, Krackhead, KD7, baby Tard and several others and then tell me they don't support murdering babies right up to the moment of birth. Tell me they are not for open borders and letting the i******s swarm in.

It is really kind of pointless because you don't live here.

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Nov 15, 2018 07:38:44   #
WNC Ralf Loc: Candler NC, in the mountains!
 
Rich1939 wrote:
that trip was canceled due to the weather. Rain forced his helicopter to be grounded and the Secret Service nixed the trip to the cemetery.

Read ALL the news to be honestly informed.

BS, excuses are all tRump knows, he is not fit to be president, elected with a minority of v**ers.

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Nov 15, 2018 07:46:58   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
He could cure cancer??? Why would you think he knows any more about cancer (the fact that he is a cancer, is basically irrelevant) than he knows about anything else? He does seem to be quite sk**led at marketing, but I have seen no evidence that he knows anything about anything else.

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Nov 15, 2018 07:52:50   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Texcaster wrote:
"I'm not surprised you think Trump should risk his life." Brains

He's mentioned his heroism and bold staunch character many times.

"You would probably be one of the first to throw a huge party in celebration if he crashed and died." Brains

I wouldn't bother getting the instruments out of the cases or the whisky out of the cupboard.

The Pogues - Body of an American

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOZHwWFjb30

The Pogues - The Body of an American

The cadillac stood by the house
And the yanks they were within
And the tinker boys they hissed advice
'Hot-wire her with a pin'
Then we turned and shook as we had a look
In the room where the dead men lay
So big Jim Dwyer made his last trip
To the shores where his father's laid
But fifteen minutes later
We had our first taste of whiskey
There was uncles giving lectures
On ancient Irish history
The men all started telling jokes
And the women they got frisky
By five o'clock in the evening
Every bastard there was piskey
Fare thee well, going away
There's nothing left to say
Farewell to New York City boys, to Boston and PA
He took them out with a well-aimed clout
And we often heard him say
I'm a free-born man of the USA
He fought the champ in Pittsburgh
And he slashed him to the ground
He took on Tiny Tartanella
And it only went one round
He never had no time for reds
For drink or dice or whores
And he never threw a fight until the fight was right
So they sent him to the war
Fare the well, gone away
There's nothing left to say
With a slainte Joe and Erin go
My love's in Ameri-kay
The calling of the rosary
Spanish wine from far away
I'm a free born man of the USA
This morning on the harbour
When I said goodbye to you
I remember how I swore
That I'd come back to you one day
And as the sunset came to meet the evening on the hill
I told you I'd always love you
I always did and I always will
Fare thee well gone away
There's nothing left to say
'But to say adieu to your eyes as blue as the water in the bay
And to big Jim Dwyer the man of war
Who was often heard to say
I'm a free born man of the USA
I'm a free born man of the USA
I'm a free born man of the USA
Songwriters: Shane Patrick Lysaght Macgowan
The Body of an American lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group
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Anything is a good reason to get the whisky out of the cabinet. Even that. Hell, I got the whisky out when he was elected, and I haven't put it back since. The only good thing I can say about Trump, is that I no longer have to make up reasons to drink.

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Nov 15, 2018 07:57:53   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Hal81 wrote:
Obummer done more to take this great country down than anyone before him. The only one that could have been worse was Hillary the bag lady. We lucked out by keeping that bag out of the white house.


Enumerate please. If advanced age and dementia have made this impossible, accept my apology and get by the best you can. Good luck.

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