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Nov 8, 2018 13:14:24   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
the reason why I am getting a new camera is because I was at my Granddaughter Bridal Shower taking pictures. after 25 pictures I saw a black mark looking at the pictures I thought it was the strap so I move the strap and took more pictures the black mark was getting bigger I ran the cleaning sensor. the black mark was really big so I just put the camera up and go home call up canon. the guy took me to take the front cap off and go to sensor cleaning put it on clean manually. I did and there was a black arm laying there so the guy told me to send it in and they will fix it. I brought this camera in 2016 I only had one year warranty on it I do not have any ideal how it would break this is my second nice camera my first one was SL1 was so happy getting a camera that took cool pictures. any way I did send it in and got it back went to Grandson Soccer game try it out I think the pictures was okay those are the pictures I took . but I want to get a back up I use the camera mainly for high School Sports and just family pictures or walk around pictures. I was thinking about the 80D or 6D mark II or 77D or 7DmarkII or the 6DmarkII I LOVE to take pictures and I am not really to be put out in the pasture yet lol other Parents and kids ask if they could have some pictures. so I get their e-mail and send them some pictures. so could you help me out on which camera I should get please thank you DelRae
amfoto1 wrote:
Thanks... I scanned the thread but missed what lens was being used.

I'm viewing the images on a desktop with a calibrated graphics quality monitor and focus appears accurate, lens looks to be sharp, color and exposure are good. (First image shot in shade is a little cool, but that's easy to fix in post processing).

The problems I see...

70-200mm is often just not long enough focal length for a soccer field, even on a crop camera (would be even worse on a full frame 6DII).

I use 70-200mm for sports myself. In fact it's probably my most-used lens... enough so that I have two of them. At most sporting events, one of them is on one of my cameras.

HOWEVER, my other camera has either a 300mm f/4 or a 100-400mm on it, at events with a large field like soccer. The longer focal lengths are often necessary.

I think much of the problem with the original poster's images are related to that... A longer focal length that makes for a tighter shot would be better, putting more emphasis on the active subject and reducing the background. Related to that, the composition can be improved. Without a longer telephoto lens to use, either limiting to shooting when the action is closer (where I use my 70-200s) OR cropping the image in post-processing would help make for better shots. There's loss of resolution when images are cropped. But working with a 24MP camera like T6i and so long as there aren't big prints being made from the images, some cropping can be done without too much loss.

I also try to keep an eye on the background.... when possible, positioning myself where it might be more favorable. Of course, this doesn't always work out, you gotta shoot the action where it happens, not where you want it to happen! That's where Photoshop comes in and I might "remove" a distracting person or object from the background. Using longer lenses also will increase background blur and can help. I prefer to shoot RAW, too... which have a lot more latitude for editing and adjustments in post-processing, when needed. But at the very least, shoot the largest and highest quality JPEGs (but your camera settings need to be correct... since the images will be "processed in camera" according to them).

Finally, for sports I often use vertical/portrait orientation. For one, it's more "active" than horizontal/landscape orientation. But it also often allows tighter shots.

For example, here's what I'd do with one of your images. Note: I quickly and crudely Photoshopped out two people in the background, but cannot do a very good job of it working from a low resolution JPEG... Mostly I just cropped and straightened, and changed to vertical orientation... I also boosted color saturation a little (your camera settings control that, if you are shooting JPEGs).
Thanks... I scanned the thread but missed what len... (show quote)

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Nov 8, 2018 13:28:18   #
sbohne
 
DelRae wrote:
I just thought they would look better with my lens I used 70-200-f2.8 maybe it is all the stuff in the background around him is why not happy with the color My Grandson really like them but I thought he would say that because I am Grandma :)


The "stuff in the background" is going to be minimized by using the lens at f/2.8 or 3.5 and racked out to the full 200mm setting. Even then, it may not throw the junk out of focus enough for your liking. If you have Photoshop or Photoshop Elements (or another similar editing program), you can apply a blur to the background and minimize the appearance. I'm sorry I didn't have time to put into this (I have two acres of leaves to get up before it snows), but here's 10 minutes worth of cropping and gaussian blur.



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Nov 8, 2018 13:42:24   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
well thank you for your time and helping me out very nice of you :)maybe when you get done you could answer my question on 2nd camera than I will leave you along thank you DelRae
sbohne wrote:
The "stuff in the background" is going to be minimized by using the lens at f/2.8 or 3.5 and racked out to the full 200mm setting. Even then, it may not throw the junk out of focus enough for your liking. If you have Photoshop or Photoshop Elements (or another similar editing program), you can apply a blur to the background and minimize the appearance. I'm sorry I didn't have time to put into this (I have two acres of leaves to get up before it snows), but here's 10 minutes worth of cropping and gaussian blur.
The "stuff in the background" is going t... (show quote)

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Nov 8, 2018 13:55:34   #
BebuLamar
 
You asked the question that most people wouldn't know. Some people do know but if they tell you they put their job on the line.

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Nov 8, 2018 14:05:12   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
My choice of a 2nd camera would be a 5D IV or a 7D II. the two parts of that decision are 1) do you have a lot of "S" lenses that will not work with a full frame (5D) and 2) what do you need for the type of shooting. 5 D Full frame is great for most shooting and better quality but, 7D is a faster burst for sports and/or action. Only you can make that choice. We can't help except lay out some options.

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Nov 8, 2018 14:13:27   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
BebuLamar wrote:
You asked the question that most people wouldn't know. Some people do know but if they tell you they put their job on the line.


Please use "Quote Reply" so we know what you are talking about and what you are replying to.

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Nov 8, 2018 14:18:34   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
Oh I see but what I have for lens is EF50mmf/1.8 and EF70-200/2.8 and f/4LUSM EFS 55-250 EFS 18-135 STM and 18-55 IS Macro I am sorry I don't want to get you in trouble thank You
Picture Taker wrote:
My choice of a 2nd camera would be a 5D IV or a 7D II. the two parts of that decision are 1) do you have a lot of "S" lenses that will not work with a full frame (5D) and 2) what do you need for the type of shooting. 5 D Full frame is great for most shooting and better quality but, 7D is a faster burst for sports and/or action. Only you can make that choice. We can't help except lay out some options.

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Nov 8, 2018 15:18:10   #
BebuLamar
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Please use "Quote Reply" so we know what you are talking about and what you are replying to.

I don’t think I need to do that when I relpying to the OP

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Nov 8, 2018 15:37:09   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
About all you'll see about this is rumors. So just google it and you'll find some info, but not written in stone.
DelRae wrote:
thinking about getting the 80D but heard 90D is coming out around the end of the year? what can you tell me on it please?

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Nov 8, 2018 15:45:13   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
ok thanks:)
Picture Taker wrote:
My choice of a 2nd camera would be a 5D IV or a 7D II. the two parts of that decision are 1) do you have a lot of "S" lenses that will not work with a full frame (5D) and 2) what do you need for the type of shooting. 5 D Full frame is great for most shooting and better quality but, 7D is a faster burst for sports and/or action. Only you can make that choice. We can't help except lay out some options.

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Nov 8, 2018 17:41:22   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
DelRae wrote:
thinking about getting the 80D but heard 90D is coming out around the end of the year? what can you tell me on it please?


Check Canon Rumors. They are a pretty good indicator of upcoming products and I don't recall anything lately on a 90D, but I don't recall all rumors unless they really pique my interest. It does look like the Mirrorless R system seems to be the push by Canon. But who knows.
https://www.canonrumors.com/

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Nov 8, 2018 18:07:19   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
WOW wish I never ask this question
Architect1776 wrote:
Check Canon Rumors. They are a pretty good indicator of upcoming products and I don't recall anything lately on a 90D, but I don't recall all rumors unless they really pique my interest. It does look like the Mirrorless R system seems to be the push by Canon. But who knows.
https://www.canonrumors.com/

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Nov 8, 2018 19:31:08   #
sbohne
 
DelRae wrote:
well thank you for your time and helping me out very nice of you :)maybe when you get done you could answer my question on 2nd camera than I will leave you along thank you DelRae


I do not shoot a lot anymore. I still use a 60D and find it suits my purposes of recording roadside memorials for posterity. Perhaps a book in the future (?)
I am sure one of the other ladies or gentlemen can give their educated suggestion, however.

Happy Thanksgiving, and good shooting,
Steve


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Nov 8, 2018 19:45:25   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY DelRae
sbohne wrote:
I do not shoot a lot anymore. I still use a 60D and find it suits my purposes of recording roadside memorials for posterity. Perhaps a book in the future (?)
I am sure one of the other ladies or gentlemen can give their educated suggestion, however.

Happy Thanksgiving, and good shooting,
Steve



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Nov 9, 2018 11:45:56   #
hookedupin2005 Loc: Northwestern New Mexico
 
Bill MN wrote:
I thought Nikon had a 80D and a 90D.


If they do, they stole it from Canon.... Nikon has a D80, and D90.

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