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Nov 3, 2018 14:23:13   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
DelRae wrote:
Which Camera??
Thank you every one on getting back to me I guess I said it wrong I am looking for second camera
What I wanted to know is what is the different between the two Cameras
I am looking at the 77D and the 80D
1. I don't understand DIGIC 6 Image processor for 80D DIGIC 7 for 77D ???
2. 16xAPS-C for 80D or APS -C Image Sensor for 77D ????
3. 1/8000 to 30 sec for 80D and 1.4000 to 30 sec ???


The newer the processor the faster your camera is going to be.

The faster shutter speed is better when there is lots of light.

But most importantly, you have to be the missing link that improves your plctures. Like what was suggested above. Make sure your photos are level. No matter how good of a setup one uses, a tilted shot looks very amateurish.

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Nov 3, 2018 14:27:16   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
DelRae wrote:
I have a Canon T6i I want a second camera I have been doing Grand kids and other kids high School Soccer and Basketball games I am looking at the 77D and the 80D Which one is better for sports and just taking pictures.
1. I don't understand DIGIC 6 Image processor for 80D DIGIC 7 for 77D ???
2. 16xAPS-C for 80D or APS -C Image Sensor for 77D ????
3. 1/8000 to 30 sec for 80D and 1.4000 to 30 sec ???
I do have the Canon Lens that help out---
1. EF 70-200 f 2.8 L IS II USM this one I have been using for sports
2 EF 24-70mm f2.8 L II USM for pictures
3. EF 50 mm f/1.4 for pictures too
I just would like to get better pictures
I have a Canon T6i I want a second camera I have b... (show quote)


I know you didn't list this camera as a choice, but you might want to consider a reconditioned 7dMII, since you shoot so much sports photography, due to its 10fps burst rate.

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Nov 3, 2018 15:23:14   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 

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Nov 3, 2018 16:04:19   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
thank you wow beautiful pictures the camera I was thinking about was 77D and 80D

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Nov 3, 2018 16:07:04   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
thank you I like your pictures

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Nov 3, 2018 16:14:32   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
thank you for that site
Blenheim Orange wrote:
This looks like an fairly good comparison between the two:

https://camerajabber.com/canon-77d-vs-canon-80d-key-differences/

Mike

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Nov 3, 2018 16:19:22   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
DelRae wrote:
I have a Canon T6i I want a second camera I have been doing Grand kids and other kids high School Soccer and Basketball games I am looking at the 77D and the 80D Which one is better for sports and just taking pictures.
1. I don't understand DIGIC 6 Image processor for 80D DIGIC 7 for 77D ???
2. 16xAPS-C for 80D or APS -C Image Sensor for 77D ????
3. 1/8000 to 30 sec for 80D and 1.4000 to 30 sec ???
I do have the Canon Lens that help out---
1. EF 70-200 f 2.8 L IS II USM this one I have been using for sports
2 EF 24-70mm f2.8 L II USM for pictures
3. EF 50 mm f/1.4 for pictures too
I just would like to get better pictures
I have a Canon T6i I want a second camera I have b... (show quote)


there areany number of forums regarding sports photos. google is your friend

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Nov 3, 2018 16:47:13   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
2. 16xAPS-C for 80D or APS -C Image Sensor for 77D ????
Are you referring to the 1.6 crop factor? ( YES )
mwsilvers wrote:
The 77D is a newer camera and is physically smaller then the 80D. Because it is newer it also has a more updated processor, the DIGIC 7 vs the DIGIC 6. You can use Google to find all the differences between the DIGIC 6 and 7. They both have APS-C crop sensors. I have no idea what the 16X refers to. Where exactly did you see that? Are you referring to the 1.6 crop factor?

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Nov 3, 2018 16:50:37   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
tdekany wrote:
The newer the processor the faster your camera is going to be.

The faster shutter speed is better when there is lots of light.

But most importantly, you have to be the missing link that improves your plctures. Like what was suggested above. Make sure your photos are level. No matter how good of a setup one uses, a tilted shot looks very amateurish.



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Nov 4, 2018 05:30:05   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
DelRae wrote:
I have a Canon T6i I want a second camera I have been doing Grand kids and other kids high School Soccer and Basketball games I am looking at the 77D and the 80D Which one is better for sports and just taking pictures.
1. I don't understand DIGIC 6 Image processor for 80D DIGIC 7 for 77D ???
2. 16xAPS-C for 80D or APS -C Image Sensor for 77D ????
3. 1/8000 to 30 sec for 80D and 1.4000 to 30 sec ???
I do have the Canon Lens that help out---
1. EF 70-200 f 2.8 L IS II USM this one I have been using for sports
2 EF 24-70mm f2.8 L II USM for pictures
3. EF 50 mm f/1.4 for pictures too
I just would like to get better pictures
I have a Canon T6i I want a second camera I have b... (show quote)

My father in law was always fond of saying; "It's a poor workman who blames his tools"

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Nov 4, 2018 05:47:03   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
The lens is the most important element in the quality of an image. And you've already got that. As others have said, take plenty, cull ruthlessly and learn from mistakes (perhaps at this stage mistakes is the not the right word). So learn from the ones you like most, then the bad ones will be mistakes.

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Nov 4, 2018 06:22:58   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
DelRae wrote:
I have a Canon T6i I want a second camera I have been doing Grand kids and other kids high School Soccer and Basketball games I am looking at the 77D and the 80D Which one is better for sports and just taking pictures.
1. I don't understand DIGIC 6 Image processor for 80D DIGIC 7 for 77D ???
2. 16xAPS-C for 80D or APS -C Image Sensor for 77D ????
3. 1/8000 to 30 sec for 80D and 1.4000 to 30 sec ???
I do have the Canon Lens that help out---
1. EF 70-200 f 2.8 L IS II USM this one I have been using for sports
2 EF 24-70mm f2.8 L II USM for pictures
3. EF 50 mm f/1.4 for pictures too
I just would like to get better pictures
I have a Canon T6i I want a second camera I have b... (show quote)


The 77D has a 24mp sensor and 45 AF points with DPAF (The best AF system available in any brand) and 6 fps. The 80D has the same 24mp sensor with 45 AF points also DPAF at 7fps so a little faster. Bothe are excellent cameras for what you want to do. The 80D is built body wise a bit more rugged. Both have WiFi which is good and works well.
If it is in the budget the 7D MII would be much better for the action shooting you are doing as it was designed with that type of shooting in mind. The sensor is 20mp so a bit less in mp but enough for great poster size prints. It has 65 AF points, DPAF as well. It shoots at 10fps and is designed for action. Get the WiFi version. It uses dual Digic 6 processors for better operation than single processors The 1DX MII uses 2 as well.
The Digic 6 is an older processor than the Digic 7. The newer the processor generally you get a better photo but from one generation to the next as this is it is not a lot of difference.
Between the 80D and 77D I would go with the 80D at this time for the more rugged build quality. But outside of that in real world use there is not a lot of difference as you will determine how good the photos will come out.
The 77D and 80D and 7D MII are all APSC sensors. That is the size of the sensor which is smaller than the FF sensor which is the same as 35mm film cameras, see attached.


(Download)

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Nov 4, 2018 06:32:44   #
Shutterbug57
 
DelRae wrote:
I just would like to get better pictures


For more reach you can:
- (affordable) use a 1.4 teleconverter. This will cost you a stop, but give you reach
- (pricey, but sexy) pony up for a 400mm f/2.8 lens - great lens, but pricey and has a learning curve

Also, and I don’t mean this in a Smart Alec sense, but find a better vantage point. Your image has houses in the background. I get this is a HS field, but does the home side at least have bleachers that would look more like a sporting venue and would have, hopefully, at least a few spectators.

Finally, and this is just reality, if you want better shots, shoot better players. Great shots of HS players are still HS players playing at that level in HS venues. At college and pro levels, the venues are better, the action is better & the lighting is better. Like you, I shot my kids sports from little league through HS. Night field sports and poorly lit gyms with a D200 were doable, but man, was it easier when playoffs were at D1 college fields and gyms that were lit for TV.

Do your best with what you have. From the shot you posted, perspective seems to be the easiest way to improve your shots.

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Nov 4, 2018 07:39:43   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Yes, "take a lot of pictures" and "learn from your mistakes." But learn from your successes, too. After all, because a craft, photography requires much practice to learn its ins-and-outs over time.
PeterBergh wrote:
There's only one way to improve your pictures: take a lot of pictures, cull ruthlessly, and learn from your mistakes. Buying a new camera is unlikely to significantly improve your pictures, particularly since you have very good lenses. The primary influence on your pictures is the lens; the camera is just a black box.

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Nov 4, 2018 07:41:02   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
For sports/action shots ... why not look at a used or refurbished 7D MII, designed for action shots. It and the 70 -200 are an unbeatable pair. One other suggestion, but it will cost dollars, might be a longer focal length lense. I have the 7D MII, 5D MIII and the same lens.
Mark
DelRae wrote:
I have a Canon T6i I want a second camera I have been doing Grand kids and other kids high School Soccer and Basketball games I am looking at the 77D and the 80D Which one is better for sports and just taking pictures.
1. I don't understand DIGIC 6 Image processor for 80D DIGIC 7 for 77D ???
2. 16xAPS-C for 80D or APS -C Image Sensor for 77D ????
3. 1/8000 to 30 sec for 80D and 1.4000 to 30 sec ???
I do have the Canon Lens that help out---
1. EF 70-200 f 2.8 L IS II USM this one I have been using for sports
2 EF 24-70mm f2.8 L II USM for pictures
3. EF 50 mm f/1.4 for pictures too
I just would like to get better pictures
I have a Canon T6i I want a second camera I have b... (show quote)

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