IBM and Apple
Oct 28, 2018 20:43:12 #
NJphotodoc
Loc: Now in the First State
I worked for IBM and when I started, I was given the choice between a Mac and a Lenovo ThinkPad (or as we called it, a StinkPad). For some reason I still can't figure out, I chose the Lenovo. BIG mistake!
Slow boot up, loved to crash, and heavy as a truck. I was with them for 2 yrs and asked if I could move over to an Apple. Was told had to wait at least another yr so I went to HP. At least their notebook are solid and have some cool features.
Slow boot up, loved to crash, and heavy as a truck. I was with them for 2 yrs and asked if I could move over to an Apple. Was told had to wait at least another yr so I went to HP. At least their notebook are solid and have some cool features.
Oct 28, 2018 21:24:51 #
I will say this for Apple - their support is quite good (although ITunes is a POS). I just called Apple support (for only the 2nd time in a decade) and was pleasently surprised. They couldn’t solve the problem (ITunes Match), after 3 levels of experts and an hour and a half on the phone, but I got an English speaking person who called me within 15 seconds of me opening a ticket. They’ve promised to call me back tomorrow after they’ve researched it further. No fix, but the response was damned quick. If they actually call back and fix the problem, I will be very impressed.
Oct 28, 2018 21:35:53 #
NJphotodoc wrote:
I worked for IBM and when I started, I was given the choice between a Mac and a Lenovo ThinkPad (or as we called it, a StinkPad). For some reason I still can't figure out, I chose the Lenovo. BIG mistake!
Slow boot up, loved to crash, and heavy as a truck. I was with them for 2 yrs and asked if I could move over to an Apple. Was told had to wait at least another yr so I went to HP. At least their notebook are solid and have some cool features.
Slow boot up, loved to crash, and heavy as a truck. I was with them for 2 yrs and asked if I could move over to an Apple. Was told had to wait at least another yr so I went to HP. At least their notebook are solid and have some cool features.
I will only say that hasn’t been my experience with Lenovo. I currently have probably my 6th Lenovo Laptop, and I have never had one fail or crash, but it is certainly heavier than a MacBook Air (3.44 lbs vs 2.96 lbs for current equivalent 13” models), which was nice to fly with. I would MUCH rather have it than an HP. I’m assuming you know that Lenovo purchased the IBM laptop division and builds the same laptop (used to be called an IBM Thinkpad) in the same facility and by the same workers (they’re about 15 minutes from me in RTP, NC). You can’t tell the difference between the Lenovo and the old ThinkPad except my latest Lenovo has an SSD. It boots Windows 10 in less than 5 seconds...
Oct 28, 2018 22:17:23 #
I have a friend who used to work doing IT support for the biology department of a large university. The department was about 60% Mac and 40% PCs. There were three support techs. Two techs worked full time supporting the PCs and my friend took care of all the Macs and did PCs in his spare time.
That is why IBM or any company with an eye on the bottom line would allow (or encourage) their employees to use Macintoshes.
That is why IBM or any company with an eye on the bottom line would allow (or encourage) their employees to use Macintoshes.
Oct 28, 2018 22:22:22 #
NJphotodoc
Loc: Now in the First State
Not here to debate machines but in favor of HP is their SureView screen that provides for built-in visual privacy as well as sure Start (protects the machine at the BIOS level) and SureClick (addresses hacking when browsing). These are patented solutions and only HP can offer them
As to IBM selling their PC business to Lenovo, nothing new here. The Chinese were already building the machines before the sale and it gave IBM an injection of cash. ThinkPads are based on legacy hardware design but if they serve you well, then you should stick with them.
As to IBM selling their PC business to Lenovo, nothing new here. The Chinese were already building the machines before the sale and it gave IBM an injection of cash. ThinkPads are based on legacy hardware design but if they serve you well, then you should stick with them.
Oct 29, 2018 05:22:29 #
TriX wrote:
Early Apple machines were quite advanced. They produced a GUI interface in 1979 (which they stole from Xerox) long before Microsoft Windows (1986), although there were aps for MSDOS from the beginning that had a GUI, such as Frameworks, it just wasn’t incorporated into the OS. They also used Motorola 68000 CPUs (the hottest 32-bit CPU at the time) and SCSI interface for disk instead of the IBM ISA bus interface.
I remember that completely. Then Xerox and Apple got into a pissing war about the "Lisa" interface being stolen from (was it Star?) which was a joint Apple/Xerox effort. At one time there was an cute and (at the time) not entirely wrong cartoon showing an Apple being attacked by a Starship with lots of small Darth Vaders going into space from the Starship toward the Apple ship to invade. IBM (at the time) was doing everything in their power to kill Apple.
While I am not an Apple fan, having seen both sides (Apple and IBM Dos and gui interfaces) I am now a Windows (stolen from Apple) fan and hate Apple for what they could have been had they opened their programing avaiability to others early in their development as PC Dos did. And yes, I remember the DOS/Apple battles over operating systems... I even had a z-80 interface so that I could run CPM on my Apple.. I even had a Corvus 10mb hard drive.. wow!! 10 whole megabytes... nearly $10k at the time... LOL!
Then I went to work as a Systems Engineer and Quality Control Engineer for Magnetic Peripherals on their "Phoenix" line in Oklahoma City, 96 Mbytes and about the size of a 2 drawer filing cabinet. Was designed then had Kodak, NCR, IBM, and everybody's ID plates on it.
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