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Oct 26, 2018 08:17:06   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
suntouched wrote:
Have you considered the new Nikon mirrorless system, especially the less expensive one that is soon to be released? That and the mid length lens might be an excellent package along with an adapter so she can continue to use her present Nikon lenses.


A very good point!!

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Oct 26, 2018 08:22:49   #
Flickwet Loc: NEOhio
 
amfoto1 wrote:
For someone who sounds as serious about their photography as your daughter-in-law... someone who has literally worn out some relatively recent model cameras (if what you say is true)...

I DEFINITELY wouldn't try to buy a camera for them!

She probably has a very good idea what she likes & wants and you're unlikely to know the details anywhere near as well as she does. In other words, unless she has specifically stated something she would like to work with, you and your son will more likely than not buy the wrong camera and lens!

I would STRONGLY recommend you and your son instead get her gift certificates from someplace where prices and selection are good, like B&H Photo or Adorama in NYC. Then she can make her own choices and get exactly what she wants,... rather than being "stuck" with what you THINK she would want. Maybe she'll opt to keep one of her current cameras and simply get better lenses. Or maybe she will want a new camera that can use existing lenses from one of her cameras. Or maybe there's another system entirely that she'd like to get into.

FWIW: You mention she travels a lot to take photographs. In that case, a full frame mirrorless would very likely end up bigger and heavier than the cameras she uses now. The camera body might be a bit lighter, but it will need to use full frame-capable lenses which are no smaller and lighter than the lenses for full frame DSLRs. APS-C "crop only" ("DX" in Nikon terms) lenses which she might already have for her D5300 might be smaller and lighter. An APS-C mirrorless camera might be a bit smaller and lighter for travel, provided it's used with native lenses (rather than adapted lenses). But Nikon doesn't make one, so she would need to change systems (and may or may not be able to adapt her Nikon F-mount lenses). A micro 4/3 format mirrorless can be even smaller and lighter. But, again, it depends... For example, mirrorless with viewfinders (if she wants one) aren't a great deal smaller and lighter than the smallest and lightest APS-C DSLR models (such as a Canon SL2, which is one of the smallest).

But, again, get her gift certificates and let her make her own choices. Maybe she wants a Fuji mirrorless (X-mount lenses offer one of the best selection). Nikon doesn't even make an APS-C format mirrorless... only full frame. And they only make 3 lenses for it, so far. Canon makes both APS-C and full frame mirrorless now... but so far there are very limited lenses for both, too (about 8 for the APS-C and only 4 for the full frame... and they aren't interchangeable). Panasonic and Olympus partner in making m4/3 cameras and lenses to use on them, so there's pretty good selection both of cameras and lenses. Sony has been making APS-C and FF mirrorless for quite a while, too... so have a fairly good selection of lenses. But Sony's tend to be more expensive than Nikon's... whose lenses in turn tend to be more expensive than Canon's. Fuji's lenses also ain't cheap. In fact, due to their popularity... they're the "latest, greatest thing".... mirrorless cameras and the lenses designed for them tend to be substantially more expensive than relatively comparable DSLRs (which are now "old school", I suppose.... I'm just waiting to hear, "Hey look, that geezer is still shooting with a DSLR!")
For someone who sounds as serious about their phot... (show quote)


Listen to this response, amfoto is absolutly correct. Having said that: Olympus, Panasonic or Fuji mirrorless are the ones I would recommend.

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Oct 26, 2018 08:24:35   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
I love, love, love my Olympus OMD e-Mark 5 II. Switched from Nikon d7000. Best features, IMHO, are 5-axis internal stabilization which lets me use a wide variety of lenses, weather proofing, wonderful touch screen so I don’t have to be digging through menus. I paired it with a 14-150 II lens which is also weatherproof. I take it everywhere and it weighs less than my d7000 alone. The image quality is super. I’m a liberated and very happy camper.

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Oct 26, 2018 08:31:59   #
HallowedHill2
 


This is excellent advice. What you are getting is everyone touting the camera system they use for their particular wants and needs. Let her choose: get the gift certificates.


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Oct 26, 2018 08:32:46   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Bla bla bla! Run do not walk to a camera shop and buy a Panasonic G85 can’t be beat for da price then buy some fast glass! Or may go top shelf say G9 probably the fastest in da west it’s on sale for three grand you can buy it with a prime lens

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Oct 26, 2018 08:53:35   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
The Sony A7III is the best mirrorless camera in your price range, period.

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Oct 26, 2018 08:59:39   #
MarcH Loc: Doylestown Pa
 
Sony FF is the class of mirroless in my opinion

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Oct 26, 2018 09:02:25   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Since she already has experience photographing and I do not know of her expertise in photography, I would suggest going with her to the local camera store where she can experience the camera she likes and make her own decision. Buying something for her is very nice but it could or could not please her
Good time also to buy a lens she could need.

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Oct 26, 2018 09:06:21   #
khumiston
 
excellent advice

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Oct 26, 2018 09:32:58   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
larryepage wrote:
I second the gift certificate idea. My wife is very generous and well-intentioned, but even after travelling to photography and model railroading and amateur radio meetings and events with me, she still does not have matching experience and understanding that would reliably lead her to make the same choices that I would when selecting something that she might want to purchase as a gift for me.

It is likely that neither of you are fully aware of what she may feel is her greatest need or her plan and preference for meeting that need. She may love her D5300 and want to concentrate on a new lens or lenses. Or she may not want to do anything about the Nikon equipment and find a replacement for the Sony. And she may be thinking about something completely different to accomplish that replacement. Selecting photographic equipment is an intensely personal experience for most of us. I don't have any need or desire for anything new right now, but if I did, I would not want anyone else choosing it for me.

If you read here for a while, you will quickly learn that there is a lot of emotional energy around whether or not to switch to mirrorless. On both sides. Please don't presume which side she is on.

I understand that many folks do not like to give money or gift certificates as gifts...not personal enough. But in this case, that would be exactly the most personal thing to do.
I second the gift certificate idea. My wife is ve... (show quote)



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Oct 26, 2018 09:58:13   #
dbjazz Loc: Long Island, NY
 
I took my Lumix GX85 and two lenses on a South African tour (including safari) last Spring and am thrilled with the results. The Lumix technology is amazing, and my whole kit fits in a travel pocketbook. Spring for some good lenses, which are about half the price of comparable DSLR lenses. You won't regret the choice.

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Oct 26, 2018 10:38:29   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
JRowe wrote:
My wonderful daughter-in-law will be 50 next month. Over the last 10 years she has become an excellent photographer with her Nikon 5300 (18-300 lens) and Sony RX100 M1 -- but they are about worn out. Her job has her traveling a lot -- both domestic and international -- so she takes a lot of travel pictures but also many family shots. She processes in Lightroom and publishes Shutterfly books.

Seems like a good time to move to a mirrorless system. Smaller and less weight than the Nikon 5300 would be good. I have read a bunch of reviews, but not sure about full frame vs M43, size, etc.

My son will buy the camera body, I'll pop for a lens. Hopefully a package under $3,000.

Thanks for your suggestions!
My wonderful daughter-in-law will be 50 next month... (show quote)


Wow! Several good choices in that budget range however Nikon and Canon don't make the budget cut.

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Oct 26, 2018 10:39:15   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
suntouched wrote:
Have you considered the new Nikon mirrorless system, especially the less expensive one that is soon to be released? That and the mid length lens might be an excellent package along with an adapter so she can continue to use her present Nikon lenses.


Don't think all that can be had for $3,000.

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Oct 26, 2018 10:54:38   #
William Royer Loc: Kansas
 
Agree with comments about having her make selection decision. Wanted to emphasize the somewhat obvious point that —whoever makes the decision — it’s important that they look particularly carefully at the sizes of the lenses in the focal lengths they use. In several brands/models I’ve looked at (particularly for use when traveling) the size of the camera body was appealing, but the size of the focal length/speed of the lenses I used really made or broke the deal.

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Oct 26, 2018 10:58:27   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
I would suggest gift certificates as she may be picky being a bit more experienced. Some have suggested the Z6 but FF lenses will not lighten her load - for weight savings M43 is the way to go - Olympus - however just buy her the gift certificates and let her decide - Z6 or other mirrorless.

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