My Adobe Subscription
Oct 20, 2018 16:25:23 #
My monthly subscription is not expensive by any measure but I never did like the idea of renting software. LR and PS together are great programs and more capable than what I need or wanted...although not so much LR but definitely PS.
I have been using Capture One Pro for Sony since switching to the A7R3. It took a while to get to the point where I am able to do all the things I did in LR Classic and PS CC. I'm not suggesting that COP for Sony is better, but it does what I need and much more and its not a subscription.
So today I cancelled without regrets or hard feelings.
I have been using Capture One Pro for Sony since switching to the A7R3. It took a while to get to the point where I am able to do all the things I did in LR Classic and PS CC. I'm not suggesting that COP for Sony is better, but it does what I need and much more and its not a subscription.
So today I cancelled without regrets or hard feelings.
Oct 20, 2018 16:28:17 #
You're the boss when it comes to your postprocessing. Whatever works for you.
Oct 20, 2018 16:30:29 #
CS6 is the last image processing software I'll ever buy from adobe.
It does more than I will ever need.
It does more than I will ever need.
Oct 21, 2018 00:05:55 #
I tried Capture One by Phase One, and Adobe for in June of 2014, right after Apple announced the end of support for Aperture (which still runs even using OSX Mojave). I couldn’t decide which I liked so I bought Capture One and subscribed to Adobe Photographer’s plan.
I liked the Capture One rendering engine. It yielded the best restults on raw images, with the least amount of fussing around.
However, at least around circa 2014, Phase One did not add new cameras to their legacy software, like Apple did and like Adobe continues to do with ACR. In order to get support for my new camera, I would have had to buy the full upgrade to the next version. In the meantime Adobe pushed out an update via the standard CC update process, and I had raw support for my new camera. No charge. So that is what tipped the balance toward Adobe for me. I have not looked back and I have been very happy with the CC Photographers plan.
However there is no doubt the Phase One raw rendering engine kicks butt.
I liked the Capture One rendering engine. It yielded the best restults on raw images, with the least amount of fussing around.
However, at least around circa 2014, Phase One did not add new cameras to their legacy software, like Apple did and like Adobe continues to do with ACR. In order to get support for my new camera, I would have had to buy the full upgrade to the next version. In the meantime Adobe pushed out an update via the standard CC update process, and I had raw support for my new camera. No charge. So that is what tipped the balance toward Adobe for me. I have not looked back and I have been very happy with the CC Photographers plan.
However there is no doubt the Phase One raw rendering engine kicks butt.
Oct 21, 2018 06:26:36 #
spraguead
Loc: Boston, MA
I have used the Adobe products professionally since the early '90s. Most users never use even a majority of features and capability of Photoshop, so I'm not surprised you can do all you want with many other programs.
As for the subscription v purchase? I own a business that has had up to 4 work stations running the Adobe Creative Suite, and I resisted the subscription for so long. But the cost of upgrades every 18-24 months was actually much more expensive. And if I ever delayed in upgrades, inevitably we would get files from a partner or client that we couldn't work on without the latest version of the software. So I've come around on subscriptions. Though when I stop making money off of these applications my POV will surely change.
As for the subscription v purchase? I own a business that has had up to 4 work stations running the Adobe Creative Suite, and I resisted the subscription for so long. But the cost of upgrades every 18-24 months was actually much more expensive. And if I ever delayed in upgrades, inevitably we would get files from a partner or client that we couldn't work on without the latest version of the software. So I've come around on subscriptions. Though when I stop making money off of these applications my POV will surely change.
Oct 21, 2018 07:53:22 #
spraguead wrote:
I have used the Adobe products professionally since the early '90s. Most users never use even a majority of features and capability of Photoshop, so I'm not surprised you can do all you want with many other programs.
I couldn't agree more. I shoot almost every day, understand my equipment and try to get my images as correct as I can in the camera. I seldom attempt to recover a poor capture. Yes I enhance all my images and occasionally even get extreme.
The fact of the matter is there are now programs on the market that do some things as well as PS, somethings even better with less of a learning curve and less expense.
And now that Adobe is removed and my registry has been stripped (manually) I've got more drive space and the computer startup is faster.
Oct 21, 2018 08:09:17 #
I don't think of it as renting the software. I think of it as a minor monthly payment for keeping the software up to date, not only with fixes and minor improvements, but also with new and significant feature enhancements. The $10 a month (photography plan) is FAR less than I spend on just coffee and bagels (which I could do without anyway). As for other software, I expect there are other programs that do as well, and maybe even better than Adobe in some areas. But I've used Adobe so long, I'm not about to change my whole workflow at this time.
Oct 21, 2018 08:27:13 #
Oct 21, 2018 08:50:55 #
DavidPine
Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
I have many applications except those that don't run on a mac. I don't use Bootcamp. I have CaptureOne Pro, Topaz, On1, DxO, Affinity and so on. I mostly use them as plugins for Lightroom Classic and Photoshop. Occasionally, I try to do a complete RAW edit with the aforementioned applications but when it comes down to the nitty-gritty Adobe wins every time.
Oct 21, 2018 10:23:07 #
1963mca wrote:
I don't think of it as renting the software. I thi... (show quote)
I’m with you on this one. I had thought that I would switch to some standalone software to avoid the payment plan; so I bought Luminar. Tried it, but decided, like you, that I didn’t want to change my whole workflow. Plus, I didn’t want to learn another program. I had many photo editing programs on my computer when I started using Lightroom. Each one had its advantage. However, once I REALLY learned Lightroom, I got rid of all the other programs and started learning Photoshop. The LR/PS combo can’t be beat once you take the time to learn them.
Now that I am retired, I would rather give up coffee & bagels than my Adobe plan! For $10/month, I can save that money somewhere else. I do understand where the OP is coming from though as there is a steep learning curve for LR/PS. His choice may be a good choice for others as well. Not everyone NEEDS all the tools. I would wager that most of us don’t use all that Adobe has to offer.
Oct 21, 2018 10:54:10 #
joer wrote:
My monthly subscription is not expensive by any me... (show quote)
It makes no difference what software you use as long as you learn how to use it. Too many have so many programs that they never really learn and then say nasty things about that particular program's capabilities.
So use what you will without regret, as long as it does what you want it to do.
Oct 21, 2018 10:59:56 #
joer wrote:
My monthly subscription is not expensive by any me... (show quote)
I do have several stand alone PS versions that don't have the latest greatest but are still quite functional and more that adequate for the occasional special effect.
Original raw images processed in COP for Sony, combined and converted to B&W in PS (CS6).
I don't need no stinken subscription.
Hey I'm not saying that the Adobe subscription isn't a good deal or inadequate in any way...I just don't want it and now have joined the large group of people that feel likewise. And with the vast number of great editing programs available today, we have the ability to be selective.
Oct 21, 2018 11:08:57 #
Oct 21, 2018 11:22:24 #
Capture One Pro is $300, or two and a half years of the Adobe subscription. The $300 includes free SERVICE releases. Does that include upgrades? It doesn't look like it because Capture One Pro offers a subscription plan that includes future RELEASES. Their subscription plan is $180 a year which works out to $15 per month. Adobe's photography plan is $10 per month. I don't like the idea of a subscription plan, but I haven't found a better alternative.
Oct 21, 2018 11:47:24 #
joer wrote:
My monthly subscription is not expensive by any me... (show quote)
I'm not quite sure why you posted this. You made a decision and moved on. Do you need validation??
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