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Oct 11, 2018 11:41:51   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Regarding your opening question whether aperture would affect "crispness" -- given that your moving subject fills less than 5% of the frame, I think focus was the primary issue (I don't see any sharpness in any part of the image).

To be prepared for possible here-then-gone moments, with a dslr I put my settings at about f/8, 1/500 sec and auto ISO. But that is with the understanding that something might be better than nothing. With distant flying birds "coming out of nowhere," it's usually not

Pic below was with a bridge camera at equiv 1200 mm, into my third year of photographing this eagle nest. I learned from experience to focus on the nest rather than try to catch incoming parents, and to use HQ burst mode: fastest possible shutter speed for the conditions, in this case was 1/1000 in good light - meaning no exposure compensation to deal with.

It sounds like you've picked up some great tips. Just be realistic about your camera limits, especially if in challenging light. All the best!
Regarding your opening question whether aperture w... (show quote)


That three years patience really paid off - wonderful wonderful pic

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Oct 11, 2018 12:12:58   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Delderby wrote:
That three years patience really paid off - wonderful wonderful pic
Appreciated! Many thousands of photos over hundreds of hours and learning that particular camera's strengths and weaknesses...that was my message to the OP. I also learned when to just remove the camera from my face and enjoy the awesome show - such as when fledglings were taking their first flights!

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Oct 11, 2018 13:03:20   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
Delderby wrote:
Well I would have deleted this pic in camera. You might have done better with bracketing. You're on a hiding to nothing with this pic - max reach, high iso, harsh cropping, blown high lights, f-stop too small, wrong lens, unprepared, no tripod? wrong time of day. 1/1600 shutter speed was ok to stop action but not for f-stop at f8 . Back to the drawing board!


My question is based on total ignorance, but.....how would he be able to bracket in a case as the picture he posted?

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Oct 11, 2018 13:23:03   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
juan_uy wrote:
My question is based on total ignorance, but.....how would he be able to bracket in a case as the picture he posted?


It will be camera dependant, however on my Olympus body you just press the HDR button and that will result in up to 7 exposures taken in burst mode.

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Oct 11, 2018 13:36:50   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
swartfort wrote:
Please don't start off by telling me I don't understand the exposure triangle or know nothing about photography. I am not necessarily looking for a book recommendation, but rather specific thoughts on how you would set your camera for this particular type of shot. If you have examples of similar shots, please feel free to share them along with how you shot it. Thank you in advance for your kind help!!

Once again, I tried to set up a wildlife shoot. I was in "golden hour" on a partly cloudy evening, I had scouted a spot where there are significant chances to catch various birds and some animal life. I placed myself with my back to the sun and the wind to my face.

My equipment: D3400, Nikon AF-S 70-300 4.5-5.6 VR ED G
Camera Settings: Spot meter, single point focus, Manual with auto ISO

A bit more information: As I was waiting, I found some interesting "fauna" and was playing with my aperture and shutter speed (hence ISO). The aperture was set at 13 when I saw the approaching bird, I spun up the shutter speed (maybe not enough), neglected the aperture, and began to focus and shoot....

Attached is a result. 1st is SOOC, second is with some edit. My questions:

1) The bright white bird is blown out. Should Exposure compensation have been
used differently?

2) Would altering the aperture have given me more "crisp" results? or is it just that
the shutter speed was still a tad low?

3) How would you have set your camera to be "ready" for this short moment
that happens fast and then is gone?

4) Is my G.A.S. for a longer lens a symptom or a cure?
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Please don't start off by telling me I don't under... (show quote)



Here is an example shot at a local duckpond. Lots of light around.

Canon EOS 40D (1.6 crop body)
EF100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM lens
f/8.0
F=400.0 mm
1/1600
ISO 250
Exposure compensation -4/3 EV


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Oct 11, 2018 13:52:35   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
juan_uy wrote:
My question is based on total ignorance, but.....how would he be able to bracket in a case as the picture he posted?


Bracketing can provide several different exposure values at the time of capture, and may well have prevented the blown high lights. The exposure triangle would possibly have different values, with different apertures or shutter speed or ISO. The capture has been hard cropped, so there would have been opportunity to capture at least three exposures in the bracket. Not sure that bracketing would have improved matters, but if you don't try...............

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Oct 11, 2018 14:58:48   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
juan_uy wrote:
My question is based on total ignorance, but.....how would he be able to bracket in a case as the picture he posted?
Delderby wrote:
Bracketing can provide several different exposure values at the time of capture...
My original thought, which might have been Juan's, is some cameras merge the bracketed frames, which might not be so good for moving subjects But maybe that is a different setting on the menu, and called HDR?

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Oct 11, 2018 14:59:29   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
It will be camera dependant, however on my Olympus body you just press the HDR button and that will result in up to 7 exposures taken in burst mode.
Are they merged in the camera?

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Oct 11, 2018 15:32:10   #
srt101fan
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Are they merged in the camera?


On my Nikon D5300 "Auto Bracketing" and "HDR" are very distinct and separate settings. Auto Bracketing does not merge the images; HDR does. By the way, HDR is not available when you shoot RAW/Raw/raw 😕

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Oct 11, 2018 16:03:15   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
Thanks, I thought that bracketing was not useful with moving objects.
Will consider it to try sometime :)

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Oct 11, 2018 16:16:50   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Are they merged in the camera?


That's optional, you can do it either way. I prefer to merge the raw files in my computer.

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Oct 11, 2018 16:39:15   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
srt101fan wrote:
... By the way, HDR is not available when you shoot RAW/Raw/raw 😕

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Oct 11, 2018 16:39:47   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
That's optional, you can do it either way. I prefer to merge the raw files in my computer.
Or not at all if subject moved Thanks Richard.

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Oct 11, 2018 16:50:49   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Or not at all if subject moved Thanks Richard.


It all depends how much movement there is - I will post an example, or two, in "For your Consideration"

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Oct 11, 2018 17:03:07   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
It all depends how much movement there is - I will post an example, or two, in "For your Consideration"
Great, thanks.

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