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Oct 10, 2018 05:50:44   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I know this is only a tangent, but some of the anti-filter crowd might be disappointed too to learn about the importance of drop-in filters .... below from the guide common to the EF 300 and 400 f/2.8L IS II Canon lenses ... unless, of course, manuals are for sissies ...


Even know it alls don't know everything. You'd be surprised how many times you can pick up interesting info when you take the time to read the manual.

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Oct 10, 2018 06:22:01   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
clickety wrote:
In response to drmax's 10/03/18 question about using filers for protection I responded the following on10/4/18:
"clickety wrote: Another "protection" point to consider is with the some of Canon L series a filter is an integral part of and completes the weatherproofing seal."

To which rmorrison1116 sarcastically replied:
Quote"Huh? Where did you hear that, from the guy who sells protective filters? I have over a dozen Canon L series lenses and not a single protective filter amongst them and I've never had any problems or need for a protective filter."End Quote.

I knew I had read what I said on more than one occasion. Today in reading a lens review on TheDigitalPicture.com site I found another reference.

In reviewing the EF 50mm F1.2L USM, Brian Carnathan writes:
Quote"The Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L USM Lens adds a feature lacking on the 85 L II but common on Canon's newer L series lenses - weather sealing. I should say weather-sealing-capable because a filter is required to complete the factory weather sealing. The front lens elements that extend/retract inside the lens barrel require a 72mm filter to complete their sealing. The filter attaches to the outer lens barrel - and does not rotate or extend."End Quote.

So this filter 'requirement obviously applies to more than one lens. I had provided correct information!

But my real point is, bellicose replies by 'old established' members often spreads or perpetuates false information. Times and technology advance and old cliches may no longer apply.

To all members, ifyou wish to wear the mantle of implied expertise, you must accept the responsibility of checking the accuracy of responses and the civility of presenting them.
Thank you.
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You can never change the "Experts" on this or many other myths they perpetuate here. Especially about Canon products that most have no clue about.

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Oct 10, 2018 07:28:28   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
Have you ever thought that the people who answered may not be familiar with that lens. People answer based on their experience and with the intention of helping, if the question was stated on this particular lens maybe they would have answered differently.

clickety wrote:
In response to drmax's 10/03/18 question about using filers for protection I responded the following on10/4/18:
"clickety wrote: Another "protection" point to consider is with the some of Canon L series a filter is an integral part of and completes the weatherproofing seal."

To which rmorrison1116 sarcastically replied:
Quote"Huh? Where did you hear that, from the guy who sells protective filters? I have over a dozen Canon L series lenses and not a single protective filter amongst them and I've never had any problems or need for a protective filter."End Quote.

I knew I had read what I said on more than one occasion. Today in reading a lens review on TheDigitalPicture.com site I found another reference.

In reviewing the EF 50mm F1.2L USM, Brian Carnathan writes:
Quote"The Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L USM Lens adds a feature lacking on the 85 L II but common on Canon's newer L series lenses - weather sealing. I should say weather-sealing-capable because a filter is required to complete the factory weather sealing. The front lens elements that extend/retract inside the lens barrel require a 72mm filter to complete their sealing. The filter attaches to the outer lens barrel - and does not rotate or extend."End Quote.

So this filter 'requirement obviously applies to more than one lens. I had provided correct information!

But my real point is, bellicose replies by 'old established' members often spreads or perpetuates false information. Times and technology advance and old cliches may no longer apply.

To all members, ifyou wish to wear the mantle of implied expertise, you must accept the responsibility of checking the accuracy of responses and the civility of presenting them.
Thank you.
In response to drmax's 10/03/18 question about usi... (show quote)

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Oct 10, 2018 07:33:48   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Brucej67 wrote:
Have you ever thought that the people who answered may not be familiar with that lens. People answer based on their experience and with the intention of helping, if the question was stated on this particular lens maybe they would have answered differently.


If one is not familiar with the lens then make no comment especially on the technical aspects of it.
All the good intentions are wrong if they are giving erroneous information.
Intention of helping is hurting if you know nothing, it is better to stay quiet and look at those who know and perhaps learn something.

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Oct 10, 2018 07:39:59   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Good luck with that.

The unmoderated* sections of UHH have trolls, bullies, meanies, troll hunters, tellers of Great Truths...and then there's all the rest of us who need no reminders.

*main forum has a "report issue" function for the very worst of the worst behavior. However, for Admin to move topics to The Attic usually requires them to contain obscenities.


I would add self-serving, pompous, and arrogant.

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Oct 10, 2018 07:53:39   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
I am so happy to have 2 Nikon bodies and only Nikkor lenses. Iā€™d go totally nuts if I had Canon and participated in this nonsense.

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Oct 10, 2018 08:23:19   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Old ideas die hard. If some people doesn't read a dozen authoritative articles stating something, they don't believe it's true.

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Oct 10, 2018 08:27:22   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
This discussion and a big of a war got me thinking about the really important question.
My Sony mirrorless and my very important XDCam (I shoot video jobs with both) I wonder
if the clear UV filters effect the quality of the picture. Both these cameras take great imagery.
X70 camcorder is 10 bit. Anybody got some expertise on this important subject?

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Oct 10, 2018 08:31:33   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Old ideas die hard. If some people doesn't read a dozen authoritative articles stating something, they don't believe it's true.


Unfortunately the way many internet authors seem to just feed off each other, a dozen authoritative articles can all be wrong. Paying attention to how things are worded you can sometimes figure out which erroneous article spawned all the others.

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Oct 10, 2018 08:43:53   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
clickety wrote:
In response to drmax's 10/03/18 question about using filers for protection I responded the following on10/4/18:
"clickety wrote: Another "protection" point to consider is with the some of Canon L series a filter is an integral part of and completes the weatherproofing seal."

To which rmorrison1116 sarcastically replied:
Quote"Huh? Where did you hear that, from the guy who sells protective filters? I have over a dozen Canon L series lenses and not a single protective filter amongst them and I've never had any problems or need for a protective filter."End Quote.

I knew I had read what I said on more than one occasion. Today in reading a lens review on TheDigitalPicture.com site I found another reference.

In reviewing the EF 50mm F1.2L USM, Brian Carnathan writes:
Quote"The Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L USM Lens adds a feature lacking on the 85 L II but common on Canon's newer L series lenses - weather sealing. I should say weather-sealing-capable because a filter is required to complete the factory weather sealing. The front lens elements that extend/retract inside the lens barrel require a 72mm filter to complete their sealing. The filter attaches to the outer lens barrel - and does not rotate or extend."End Quote.

So this filter 'requirement obviously applies to more than one lens. I had provided correct information!

But my real point is, bellicose replies by 'old established' members often spreads or perpetuates false information. Times and technology advance and old cliches may no longer apply.

To all members, ifyou wish to wear the mantle of implied expertise, you must accept the responsibility of checking the accuracy of responses and the civility of presenting them.
Thank you.
In response to drmax's 10/03/18 question about usi... (show quote)

The Correction Police are alive and well. Good luck with it.

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Oct 10, 2018 08:46:52   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
clickety wrote:
In response to drmax's 10/03/18 question about using filers for protection I responded the following on10/4/18:
"clickety wrote: Another "protection" point to consider is with the some of Canon L series a filter is an integral part of and completes the weatherproofing seal."

To which rmorrison1116 sarcastically replied:
Quote"Huh? Where did you hear that, from the guy who sells protective filters? I have over a dozen Canon L series lenses and not a single protective filter amongst them and I've never had any problems or need for a protective filter."End Quote.

I knew I had read what I said on more than one occasion. Today in reading a lens review on TheDigitalPicture.com site I found another reference.

In reviewing the EF 50mm F1.2L USM, Brian Carnathan writes:
Quote"The Canon EF 50mm f/1.2L USM Lens adds a feature lacking on the 85 L II but common on Canon's newer L series lenses - weather sealing. I should say weather-sealing-capable because a filter is required to complete the factory weather sealing. The front lens elements that extend/retract inside the lens barrel require a 72mm filter to complete their sealing. The filter attaches to the outer lens barrel - and does not rotate or extend."End Quote.

So this filter 'requirement obviously applies to more than one lens. I had provided correct information!

But my real point is, bellicose replies by 'old established' members often spreads or perpetuates false information. Times and technology advance and old cliches may no longer apply.

To all members, ifyou wish to wear the mantle of implied expertise, you must accept the responsibility of checking the accuracy of responses and the civility of presenting them.
Thank you.
In response to drmax's 10/03/18 question about usi... (show quote)

People who think they know all there is to know about everything are very annoying to us who do. ;-)

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Oct 10, 2018 08:50:39   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Well, unfortunately, the current national pastime is FAKE NEWS!!!
And no one wants to get out of practice!!! LoL
SS



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Oct 10, 2018 08:54:50   #
clickety
 
Deleted, wrong person

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Oct 10, 2018 08:55:48   #
clickety
 
waegwan wrote:
People who think they know all there is to know about everything are very annoying to us who do. ;-)


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Oct 10, 2018 08:59:18   #
clickety
 
billnikon wrote:
The Correction Police are alive and well. Good luck with it.


You may have missed my point. šŸŽˆ

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