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Oct 6, 2018 19:57:03   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
ken_stern wrote:
Background Checks -- "IF" this is the primary reason folks are not purchasing weapons in the State of NY @ Gun Shows -- That's a tad scary when you consider all those other States that don't require checks @ Gun Shows ---

PS: I'm an Ex-Marine that does not want Civilians owning "semi automatic" weapons --


First off, thank you for your service and sacrifices. Second, ALL states require a back ground check when the firearm is purchased legally. It’s been the law for over 30 years, and regardless of the states own requirements the Feds require an instant check via AKA the NICS data base at the point of purchase.
I’m sorry you feel the law abiding Civilians shouldn’t own semi-automatics. But that’s your opinion and you have the right to feel that way.

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Oct 6, 2018 20:39:32   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jbk224 wrote:
And this is posted on UHH? Why?


Category:General Chit-Chat - permitted.
(Look up the definition of General Chit-chat here: "General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk)".
It fits the bill!

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Oct 6, 2018 20:57:44   #
ken_stern Loc: Yorba Linda, Ca
 
Cookie223 wrote:
First off, thank you for your service and sacrifices. Second, ALL states require a back ground check when the firearm is purchased legally. It’s been the law for over 30 years, and regardless of the states own requirements the Feds require an instant check via AKA the NICS data base at the point of purchase.
I’m sorry you feel the law abiding Civilians shouldn’t own semi-automatics. But that’s your opinion and you have the right to feel that way.


No I won't for damn sure fight about or for that matter argue any more about - But I'll sure as hell v**e for folks that will make it so.
Less fire-power = A safer society

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Oct 6, 2018 21:30:22   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Cookie223 wrote:
I’m sure it would be a very interesting debate. People should be able to express their opinion in a healthy and intelligent way. Unfortunately in today’s society if your views are different than the other party, you will be called out, and heaven knows what the final concense of you would be. It really is a shame what is happening to our country.

God Bless

Agreed.

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Oct 7, 2018 08:00:49   #
phlash46 Loc: Westchester County, New York
 
jbk224 wrote:
And this is posted on UHH? Why?


General Chit=Chat, non-photography; you might read the forum name.

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Oct 7, 2018 08:04:05   #
phlash46 Loc: Westchester County, New York
 
tdozier3 wrote:
Sorry, but maybe you should be posting this on a firearm forum. As I pointed out, I own several firearms and am pro 2nd Amendment, and posting anything about fireaarms on a photography forum would the furthest from my mind, but to each his own I guess. For the record though, gun shows have been on the decline for many years now.


Read the title of this Forum. I'm really tired of people upset by postings here that are completely legitimate.

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Oct 7, 2018 08:13:50   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
phlash46 wrote:
Read the title of this Forum. I'm really tired of people upset by postings here that are completely legitimate.


(You don't like a subject, move on.)

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Oct 7, 2018 09:09:04   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
I think that the current administration has something to do with it.

Obama was the best thing to happen to gun sales in 20 years. With his anti-gun rights stance he was responsible for the biggest gun buying boom that I can remember.

Now with Trump in office and not about to restrict more freedoms, the panic to get firearms before they are harder to get is not there.

That's just how it works.

I'm guessing that's a possibility anyway.

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Oct 7, 2018 09:33:02   #
Quinn 4
 
rpavich wrote:
I think that the current administration has something to do with it.

Obama was the best thing to happen to gun sales in 20 years. With his anti-gun rights stance he was responsible for the biggest gun buying boom that I can remember.

Now with Trump in office and not about to restrict more freedoms, the panic to get firearms before they are harder to get is not there.

That's just how it works.

I'm guessing that's a possibility anyway.

I forgot about that, you are so right on that. Thank you

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Oct 7, 2018 09:43:41   #
pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts
 
I stopped going to gun shows years ago because there were no good values out there. Everything is overpriced, at least in Massachusetts.

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Oct 7, 2018 09:48:55   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
ken_stern wrote:

Less fire-power = A safer society


Not quite, let me fix it for you "Less fire-power makes me feel like it's a safer society"


The fact is...gun violence happens when folks who get guns illegally don't have to worry about law abiding citizens shooting back. Restricting law abiding citizens from owning guns doesn't help anything except to give said criminals less to worry about.

I live in West Virginia where EVERYONE owns multiple, many many guns of all types...and they carry them also!

Guess what doesn't happen here?

You guessed it...gun related crimes aren't common. If a criminal pulled out a gun in the local convenience store to rob it he'd have 20 guns pointing back at him...


It's not the amount of guns that is the problem..that should be painfully obvious to anyone who can see the facts.

30 years ago kids took their rifles on the school bus and the bus driver propped them in the corner until the kids came to be taken home...they'd stop 3 or 4 stops before their stop and "hunt their way home"

No kids got shot...no kids went wild and tried to shoot anyone, no kids stole a gun that didn't belong to them....there were (and are) guns everywhere here...but nobody goes around shooting each other.

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Oct 7, 2018 09:53:07   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
phlash46 wrote:
General Chit=Chat, non-photography; you might read the forum name.

Also..Quinn4, Longshadow...you are correct. I missed the category.
Therefore...
Quinn4's issue seems to be about the additional costs at gun shows that seem to create a barrier for people to purchase guns. And not about the 2nd Amendment. So, not addressing the 2nd...So what? You want a driver's license? Fees. You want to own a car...insurance? You want to buy a gun? There are costs other than that for the gun. The vendor can factor this in to their price and you wouldn't know the difference. Or the vendor can lower their margin if they wanted to help offset the administrative costs. Or not. And, the entry fee for the show? Someone needs to be paid for putting it together.
So, while others have indicated that gun show attendance has generally declined; others have said that, in their area, they are strong. I guess it is like any business. And, if you want to offset the cost of entry, then go to a 'retail' gun shop. Now don't tell me that their pricing is higher than the gun show and that is why you don't do it. If that were the case, then the gun show seller has lowered their margin enough, even with the administrative costs and entry to merit your purchase. Unless again, the cost is just too much regardless for the gun you want to purchase. Again, a natural consumer decision. In the end, attendance at gun shows is not about the 2nd Amendment. Unless, I am missing your point and that the registration requirements are not fair.

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Oct 7, 2018 10:02:25   #
Quinn 4
 
pbearperry wrote:
I stopped going to gun shows years ago because there were no good values out there. Everything is overpriced, at least in Massachusetts.


That was true for years, but with computes today, people known what a firearm true value is, their can do it at home, not need to go to a gun show to find out. It was and still not just Massachusetts.

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Oct 7, 2018 10:16:14   #
Quinn 4
 
jbk224: Additional cost is just one part of the reasons that to me gun shows are die out. The more I dig into finding out why, the more reason I am finding.

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Oct 7, 2018 10:24:39   #
cr0ak Loc: Texas
 
ken_stern wrote:
No I won't for damn sure fight about or for that matter argue any more about - But I'll sure as hell v**e for folks that will make it so.
Less fire-power = A safer society


Fewer autos = safer society
No alcohol = safer society
Fewer psychotropic drugs = safer society
Fewer knives = safer society

Oh... and...

Fewer Democrats/Liberals = safer society

;)

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