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Sep 29, 2018 10:10:57   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Irv Pearlman wrote:
Hi. I lost the battery & charger for my Nikon d3000 camera. I have a reputable dealer in my area. To replace the battery & charger with OEM Nikon products would cost about $100. Walmart sells replacement batteries from a company called Upstart Batteries. They offer two exact replacement batteries with a charger for $22.99.

Has anyone had any experience with this company. Or should I bite the bullet, and go Nikon OEM?


Any responses will be helpful.

Thanks in advance.

Irv.
Hi. I lost the battery & charger for my Nikon ... (show quote)


Try ‘em. I have a mix of OEM and third party batteries and find that how I treat them is more important than brand. Follow Nikon’s instructions for charging, discharging, and storing batteries.

Walmart has a great return policy... Unlike the mail order/Internet stores, they are local for nearly everyone. Take ‘em back if they don’t work.

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Sep 29, 2018 10:25:04   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Irv Pearlman wrote:
Hi. I lost the battery & charger for my Nikon d3000 camera. I have a reputable dealer in my area. To replace the battery & charger with OEM Nikon products would cost about $100. Walmart sells replacement batteries from a company called Upstart Batteries. They offer two exact replacement batteries with a charger for $22.99.

Has anyone had any experience with this company. Or should I bite the bullet, and go Nikon OEM?


Any responses will be helpful.

Thanks in advance.

Irv.
Hi. I lost the battery & charger for my Nikon ... (show quote)


Look on all the normal sites for used and open package (B&H, Adorama, Cameta, Roberts Usedphotopro, MPB, KEH and others) you can get very nice, barely USED OEM batteries for a whole lot less (sometimes 25-30% of new price). I've bought several (8 or 9) for my Sony and Nikon DSLR's, no problems, and battery meter says "new" and they hold up just like the one that comes new in the box, just leave my wallet much happier! Aftermarket chargers (10-15$) work just fine with them. If buying from Walmart or Amazon, make sure it is sold and shipped by Walmart.com or Amazon, their third party sellers are not as easy to deal with, and Walmart stores won't take back stuff sold by their 3rd party associates, have to ship it back and wait.

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Sep 29, 2018 10:32:52   #
Mr Bill 2011 Loc: southern Indiana
 
I like to have spare batteries for my cameras, and since the camera usually only comes with one, and quite often has no way to recharge it other than in the camera itself, I buy replacment/spare batteries for it. Usually I get Wasabi batteries from Amazon; they come packed with 2 batteries and a charger [110v/12v and/or USB ] for about $20. They work fine, as does the charger, which is a lot more convenient than charging in camera.

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Sep 29, 2018 10:44:44   #
wrangler5 Loc: Missouri
 
I have used third party batteries in Nikon and Olympus cameras, but what causes me concern is not that they may have shorter run times than OEM, but that they are reported (more often) to swell and get stuck in the camera body. They ARE cheaper, and with mirrorless cameras sometimes needing 3 batteries to get through a day of MY shooting the OEM prices do add up, so I've taken a chance with some Wasabis. But I do make sure that there's an OEM battery in the camera when I put it away, just in case.

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Sep 29, 2018 11:17:04   #
Irv Pearlman Loc: Farmington Hills, Mi.
 
WOW! I never expected the number of responses on my query. I've decided to go OEM. Thanks to all who responded. I'm not really concerned with the quality of Upstart batteries, but Walmart's return policy is only for un-used and un-opened products. Especially when they are from third party suppliers. Don't need the hassle.

Thank you all again.

Irv.

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Sep 29, 2018 11:20:34   #
jaycoffman Loc: San Diego
 
I have had bad luck with off brand batteries--even those sold by reputable camera shops. So at this point I just bit the bullet and buy Nikon batteries. (I have a lot of them now--I somehow lost my travel pack with batteries after my last trip. Now I'm getting ready to go to Africa so I had to buy new batteries. Yep, no sooner did I get the new batteries then a chance look into my bike's tank bag turned up the old batteries. But it's not so bad as I now have a lot of Nikon batteries so should be set for Africa.)

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Sep 29, 2018 11:57:47   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
elliott937 wrote:
I don't want to upset anyone who loves Walmart, but keep in mind that experience by many of my Walmart friends have shown that, except for food (perhaps), all their regular stock is designed "second grade". That includes TVs, vacuum cleaners, and many more electronic and electric devices. They are so large, than can tell Samsung (for example) how to design a TV to make it cheaper, and using smaller power supplies is not a problem, for Walmart. And that is a sample of how they can "save you money". I'm confident I'm going to get a lot of 'static' from my fellow UHH members, but facts are facts.
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Where do you get that walmart uaes smaller power supplies...... if it says samsung on it, it is samsung, and not a second. walmart controls nothing. It is not built to their specs.... walmart sells cheaper because of quantity. Period....clothing is something else, it is cheaply made and cheap. Sam's club And Costco sell cheap too, and Costco stuff is quality, but cheaper because of quantity. The kirkland brand is made to Costco specs, but as good as or better than the name brand.

Walmart online is another story. Not everything on their site is them selling the item.... they allow this parties to sell on their site..... and those items, you do not know what you are getting,

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Sep 29, 2018 11:58:12   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
Recommend you stay with Nikon battery and charger. From what I have read, you will get a longer life from the Nikon battery and there won't be any questions about battery issues if your camera fails and needs to go in for repair.

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Sep 29, 2018 12:02:55   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
I also say go for it you may be surprised by them. Nikon has an higher overhead then the smaller manufacturers thus the cost. I use Wasabi batteries with changer and have had no problems in four years of use.


Irv Pearlman wrote:
Hi. I lost the battery & charger for my Nikon d3000 camera. I have a reputable dealer in my area. To replace the battery & charger with OEM Nikon products would cost about $100. Walmart sells replacement batteries from a company called Upstart Batteries. They offer two exact replacement batteries with a charger for $22.99.

Has anyone had any experience with this company. Or should I bite the bullet, and go Nikon OEM?


Any responses will be helpful.

Thanks in advance.

Irv.
Hi. I lost the battery & charger for my Nikon ... (show quote)

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Sep 29, 2018 12:06:31   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Irv Pearlman wrote:
WOW! I never expected the number of responses on my query. I've decided to go OEM. Thanks to all who responded. I'm not really concerned with the quality of Upstart batteries, but Walmart's return policy is only for un-used and un-opened products. Especially when they are from third party suppliers. Don't need the hassle.

Thank you all again.

Irv.


If I read correctly you can get a Walmart protection plan on the product you asked about. The cost is $1/year for up to 3 years.

To me it seems better than spending $100 on accessories for a camera that is only worth $100, based on KEH's website.

BTW - I see people returning opened packages all the time at my local Walmart. Is the unopened box rule just for certain items?

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Sep 29, 2018 12:15:03   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
Chaostrain wrote:
I have used second hand batteries for many things and I'm currently using them in my camera. I research and read the reviews I find. In those reviews you will always find somebody giving them a bad review. What is the percentage of the bad reviews? A high percent? Yeah, avoid them. How does the company respond? Bad? Yeah, avoid them. Otherwise I'd say go for after market brand. I don't know that company so I can't say about them. I've also had many OEM things end up crap and finally had to go to an off brand to get a good product. Basically do a good research through many sources to make your decision.
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Has anyone heard of Watson Batteries?

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Sep 29, 2018 12:24:56   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
charles tabb wrote:
Has anyone heard of Watson Batteries?


I have a Watson in a Nikon D4s. B&H threw it in free when I purchased the new camera. I have been alternating it with the OEM battery for, I'm guessing, around 4 years. I never run my batteries all the way down or measure how many shots I get per charge, but performance wise they seem indistinguishable.

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Sep 29, 2018 12:30:04   #
lautenk2
 
Yes, Watson batteries and chargers used to be sold by B&H, so I would tend to trust them. I don't have any of their batteries, but I did buy a Watson dual battery charger with interchangeable adapters that fit all of my various camera batteries, and it works great.

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Sep 29, 2018 12:35:56   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Camera batteries are Lithium Ion of which there are several chemistries. The early ones had one pole made of lithium metal. Given the container seaks looked tight but to an oxygen molecule looked like a freeway, fire was common. In the reaction, 2Li + O2 = 2LiO the Gibbs Free energy is a large negative number. The reaction releases a large amount of heat, so burning would not be uncommon. Subsequent chemistries are more complicated, so more expensive. I would recommend reading the Wikipedia article on Li ion batteries. Then decide what risks are worth the camera.

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Sep 29, 2018 13:02:04   #
LXK0930 Loc: Souh Jersey
 
Note that there is a big difference between non-OEM brands and counterfeit. The counterfeit may say Canon, Nikon, Sony, etc, and even look just like the real ones, but are generally a pure waste of money, or WORSE (fire, equipment damage, etc). Note that a lot of batteries on EBAY seem to be counterfeit. I have tried weighing some bad ones, and found that they weigh a lot less than real OEMs. I don't know if this is a definitive way to tell, but it should make you suspect.

As far as non-OEMs, the better ones seem to be a good value, but won't last as OEM's. OK for spare or backup batteries for the casual shooter.

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