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Oct 6, 2012 08:21:44   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Gamlaman wrote:
Some white water shot in the Berwyn mountains - well high peat moors in mid-Wales. All part of a 200 feet high series of cataracts coming down a steep escarpment. The Welsh name is Pistyll rhyd-y-meinciau.

All from a Manfrotto using avariety of lenses on a Canon 40D


The first two have a very different colour cast to the water-- almost a sepia tone. Often falls photos appear to be too blue. Did you adjust for this?

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Oct 6, 2012 10:34:09   #
Gamlaman Loc: Llanfyllin
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Gamlaman wrote:
Some white water shot in the Berwyn mountains - well high peat moors in mid-Wales. All part of a 200 feet high series of cataracts coming down a steep escarpment. The Welsh name is Pistyll rhyd-y-meinciau.

All from a Manfrotto using avariety of lenses on a Canon 40D


The first two have a very different colour cast to the water-- almost a sepia tone. Often falls photos appear to be too blue. Did you adjust for this?


I set the white balance in Adobe RAW by selecting the whitest high light in the spray. Because the moorland above is very peaty the water takes its colour from that.

The pools in the river lower down take on the colour of beef soup after heavy rain.

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Oct 6, 2012 11:13:15   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Gamlaman wrote:
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Gamlaman wrote:
Some white water shot in the Berwyn mountains - well high peat moors in mid-Wales. All part of a 200 feet high series of cataracts coming down a steep escarpment. The Welsh name is Pistyll rhyd-y-meinciau.

All from a Manfrotto using avariety of lenses on a Canon 40D


The first two have a very different colour cast to the water-- almost a sepia tone. Often falls photos appear to be too blue. Did you adjust for this?


I set the white balance in Adobe RAW by selecting the whitest high light in the spray. Because the moorland above is very peaty the water takes its colour from that.

The pools in the river lower down take on the colour of beef soup after heavy rain.
quote=LoneRangeFinder quote=Gamlaman Some white ... (show quote)


That's what I suspected. The river through Portland (Oregon in the US) gets very brown when it's high due to flooding elsewhere. Right now it's pretty low-- and much bluer. Fall/Winter is coming...

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Oct 6, 2012 11:27:32   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
moving water below Bridal Veil Falls in Oregon.

250 ASA and Sigma 10-20 @ 20mm. F/ll @ 1/2 sec



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Oct 7, 2012 00:04:24   #
pgr Loc: Alabama
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
moving water below Bridal Veil Falls in Oregon.

250 ASA and Sigma 10-20 @ 20mm. F/ll @ 1/2 sec


I love this photo....beautiful capture. :)

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Oct 9, 2012 08:24:48   #
Paul14850 Loc: Ithaca, NY
 
Ithaca Falls, Ithaca, NY

Canon 60D, EF-S 10-22 .6sec at f/29 ISO 100



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Oct 9, 2012 23:45:21   #
lightchime Loc: Somewhere Over The Rainbow
 
Gamlaman wrote:
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Gamlaman wrote:
Some white water shot in the Berwyn mountains - well high peat moors in mid-Wales. All part of a 200 feet high series of cataracts coming down a steep escarpment. The Welsh name is Pistyll rhyd-y-meinciau.

All from a Manfrotto using avariety of lenses on a Canon 40D


The first two have a very different colour cast to the water-- almost a sepia tone. Often falls photos appear to be too blue. Did you adjust for this?


I set the white balance in Adobe RAW by selecting the whitest high light in the spray. Because the moorland above is very peaty the water takes its colour from that.

The pools in the river lower down take on the colour of beef soup after heavy rain.
quote=LoneRangeFinder quote=Gamlaman Some white ... (show quote)


When you set your white balance by "selecting the whitest high light in the spray" you very often select a spot where the highlights are blown and thus have no data. This results in an incorrect white balance. You need to pick a spot where the red, blue and green have nearly equal values. It sometimes takes some looking and adjusting the higher or lower values can bring you closer.

At times it is best to adjust simply by selecting what looks best (visual).

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Oct 10, 2012 00:26:29   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
lightchime wrote:
Gamlaman wrote:
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Gamlaman wrote:
Some white water shot in the Berwyn mountains - well high peat moors in mid-Wales. All part of a 200 feet high series of cataracts coming down a steep escarpment. The Welsh name is Pistyll rhyd-y-meinciau.

All from a Manfrotto using avariety of lenses on a Canon 40D


The first two have a very different colour cast to the water-- almost a sepia tone. Often falls photos appear to be too blue. Did you adjust for this?


I set the white balance in Adobe RAW by selecting the whitest high light in the spray. Because the moorland above is very peaty the water takes its colour from that.

The pools in the river lower down take on the colour of beef soup after heavy rain.
quote=LoneRangeFinder quote=Gamlaman Some white ... (show quote)


When you set your white balance by "selecting the whitest high light in the spray" you very often select a spot where the highlights are blown and thus have no data. This results in an incorrect white balance. You need to pick a spot where the red, blue and green have nearly equal values. It sometimes takes some looking and adjusting the higher or lower values can bring you closer.

At times it is best to adjust simply by selecting what looks best (visual).
quote=Gamlaman quote=LoneRangeFinder quote=Gaml... (show quote)


The color bias I see most often in water falls is the shift toward blue in the highlights. The best option (IMO) is to white balance using an ExpoDisc (or some like product)-- making sure it's oriented to catch the light falling on the scene-- not reflected by it. One can also use an 18% gray card (either side) to auto white balance. The cloudy setting is a safe fall-back option.

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Oct 14, 2012 12:17:08   #
NiagaraJim Loc: Niagara Falls, ON
 
The small dams at Dufferin Islands here in the Falls.

Image #1 Canon 60D 18-55mm f29 25Sec with ND8 filter
Image #1 Canon 60D 18-55mm  f29 25Sec with ND8 fil...

Image #2 Canon 60D 18-55mm f16 30Sec with ND8 filter
Image #2  Canon 60D 18-55mm f16 30Sec with ND8 fil...

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Oct 26, 2012 20:43:11   #
melvin short Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
heres two after purchasing a vario nd filter, i felt lucky as it was one of my first tries,
Canon 5d, 24-70f2.8,

f22@4seconds
Cedar river study, here outside maple Valley, Wa





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Oct 27, 2012 07:13:48   #
NiagaraJim Loc: Niagara Falls, ON
 
melvin short wrote:
heres two after purchasing a vario nd filter, i felt lucky as it was one of my first tries,
Canon 5d, 24-70f2.8,

f22@4seconds
Cedar river study, here outside maple Valley, Wa


Very good for a first try, water looks smooth like it should.

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Nov 12, 2012 11:10:24   #
stevenelson Loc: Pauls Valley, Oklahoma
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
This is a perpetual thread for all members to post images of moving fresh water.
Another thread will be moving sea water (waves & tides).
No HDR! That is another forum.

We request typical exposure settings to accompany all images, including: camera make & model; lens make & model; shutter duration and aperture used. Also, any situational info of interest.


Didn't you say that 1 sec. or longer qualifies as long exposure?

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Dec 4, 2012 18:52:45   #
T2i_Lorne Loc: Surrey BC Canada
 
I'll toss my pixels into the ring ... A small tributary stream of the Serpentine River here in Surrey BC.

Canon T2i with kit lens at 36mm / F 5.0 / 1/8 second / ISO auto (160)

Taken near the end of the day in the fall. Wee bit of post to desaturate, tint, and diffuse.



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Dec 5, 2012 11:00:11   #
melvin short Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
heres a b&w conversion



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Dec 5, 2012 13:17:59   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
moving water below Bridal Veil Falls in Oregon.
Calender worthy.

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