Where is the light
rcdovala wrote:
I have traveled to many locations that I knew I would not have another opportunity to revisit. So, I take photographs whether the light is "right" or not. I regard these as "record shots" that go into an album for me to peruse at some later date to remind me of the wonderful times that I had on that trip. Not every image that I capture has to be a "hero" photo. Nonetheless, they are important to me.
I agree also.
Many times I take a couple of reminder shots.
I try to memorize more than photograph including smells, weather etc.
As usual, Linda IS right. And Sharpie is, too. First, there is no shame in snapshots, period. Those taken by serious photographic enthusiasts, like many of us, are usually better than most.
Second, there is no such thing as bad light. The light that is there will yield a good photograph, it is up to us to find it using the equipment, composition/framing/positioning techniques we know or can invent (or experiment with) on the spot.
With the ease, today, of HDR, Focus Stacking and stitching in Post Processing, many mid day shots that I would have passed by back int the film daze, can be put together for a good photograph. Again, as Sharpie says, If you're shooting for you and not National Geographic or a client, go find a photo that needs making. What I look for are detail shots in the shade, "mini landscapes" are often found at streamside or oceanside where almost all the elements of the Grand Landscape are at play in miniature, right at your feet. With proper composition you can make a 2 foot water fall look as dramatic as a 100 foot one that is obscured or so brightly lit that no detail can be captures easily.
What else are ya goin' to do, drink beer????
Have fun,
C
If I'm out, and the light isn't "right," I'm still going to take photos. Maybe my shots won't be of the subject I set out to capture, but I'll get something. I generally turn my attention to macro subjects if the light is too harsh. I can create shade with my hat or hand, if the mid-day sun is too direct. Often, I'm not far from a wooded area, so I tend to venture that way if the sun is too bright.
I’ve been an enthusiast photographer for many many years, and I’ve learned to “see“ a photo for long before I actually take it. Sometimes The light isn’t right, sometimes it is. You have to judge of what your eyes see, judge the available light, possibly coming back at a different time of day When the light better suits your subject. Like one of the others said likewise: I have visited places and the light not be right for the entire trip, taking very few pictures while on the trip.
Thanks, all of you, for submitting your take on shooting with or without "light". The consensus is that when shooting for memories Hoggers shoot in any condition. Some Hoggers return to a site if there is not enough light. Other Hoggers say that with various techniques they make the best with lack of light.
AZNikon wrote:
If you are on a tour bus in Barcelona, holding up 60 people from their next stop, it's probably best to take your best shot and get back on the bus. I'd rather do that than come home empty, but that's just me.
Plus, it's a whole lot safer. Nothing worse than being thrown under the bus--it can ruin your day.....
Sometimes it's about how much time you want to spend editing and how skillful the editor and is it worth the effort.
As a landscape photographer I fully understand that everything depends on the light. If I'm at home or going to a place that I can easily return to then I'll keep trying until I get the light. If I'm traveling I will take the best shot I can get with the light that is there. Bad weather often makes good pictures. Often, I'm the only one who will see that photo as it is not up to par. When traveling, I'd rather come come with one great shot than a bunch of so so images. That often means I'll hang around a location to get the shot I want.
Ansel Adams said 12 pictures a year is a good crop. If that was good enough for him, it is good enough for me.
I will always use my creative skills to get the best shot I can. Sometimes they turn out to be better than I thought.
SteveLew wrote:
I watch considerable youtube professional landscape photographers demonstrate various techniques. The vast majority of these landscape photographer when they are venturing out, in the field, often announce that the "light" is not right or there is no light and they do not take any photos to return to the same location at a later date. Most of these youtube landscape photographers are attempting to take photos during the dream hours during sunrise and sunsets.
The question is how many of us deal with the lack of light the same as many youtube photographers or do we try to shoot anyway even though there is no light. Personally, I have been in many fairly remote areas and since I am there I always take my landscape shots anyway although usually I am disappointed with my results.
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When it's right, it's magic. As in photographing Zabriskie Point in Death Valley, California, at sunrise in February. As in photographing the Badlands of South Dakota in late afternoon in early August. Neither of those scenes is terribly interesting at Noon. And neither is always interesting when you think it will be. The light changes rapidly at those times of day, so you have to be quick and make many exposures.
I have had just a few chance encounters with "right place, right time, right light, nice picture," but I have many more images taken in average (boring) circumstances. Many famous photographers have made serendipitous photos on chance alone. More have probably studied a scene, and returned again and again, in hopes of catching that magic.
I usually just shoot anyway. At the very least, it gives me some to experiment with (abstracts, different effects etc.). Or go for details. That is also why I don't delete anything until I can see it on the computer screen.
rcdovala wrote:
I have traveled to many locations that I knew I would not have another opportunity to revisit. So, I take photographs whether the light is "right" or not. I regard these as "record shots" that go into an album for me to peruse at some later date to remind me of the wonderful times that I had on that trip. Not every image that I capture has to be a "hero" photo. Nonetheless, they are important to me.
Don
I also agree!
SteveLew wrote:
I watch considerable youtube professional landscape photographers demonstrate various techniques. The vast majority of these landscape photographer when they are venturing out, in the field, often announce that the "light" is not right or there is no light and they do not take any photos to return to the same location at a later date. Most of these youtube landscape photographers are attempting to take photos during the dream hours during sunrise and sunsets.
The question is how many of us deal with the lack of light the same as many youtube photographers or do we try to shoot anyway even though there is no light. Personally, I have been in many fairly remote areas and since I am there I always take my landscape shots anyway although usually I am disappointed with my results.
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NCMtnMan
Loc: N. Fork New River, Ashe Co., NC
You work with the light you have. Might not have the opportunity again even if you are able to come back later. It will never be the same. Might get an effect you didn't realize was there. You're not using film so if the shots suck, then just delete them. Shoot in RAW and work with it in PP.
There is no substitute for a schedule of sun up and sunset, a good watch and a good compass, and a lot of patience if you are trying to get the right light for something.
One of my mentors used to tell a story during the first week of his class. He tells of a young amateur hiking into a beautiful area who meets an old pro hiking out. The young guy asked the old pro, “Did you get what you wanted?” The old pro replied, “Well, I got what the land gave me”.
The point, my mentor said, was that we often don’t have control over the condition in which we are shooting, but that doesn’t mean that we can’t still make some wonderful photographs. The key, he said, is not to focus on what isn’t there, in terms of what we had hoped for, but rather to immerse ourselves in what is in front of us.
I try to recall this lesson whenever I’m out shooting and the conditions aren’t perfect. A few years ago I was shooting in the Southwest and spent a week where I never saw a cloud in the sky. Not tremendously helpful for the landscapes I had in mind. But remembering what my mentor had said, I concentrated on finding compositions that eliminated, or at least deemphasized, the sky. Another trip when I had a full day of drizzle, I moved in under the trees and worked at getting intimate landscapes of the undergrowth and tree trunks.
Sometimes we get lucky and get the perfect light in the perfect place. When we don’t, relax, enjoy, and appreciate what the land gives us.
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