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Can mental quickness in responding to a changing photographic scenario be learned/improved?
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Sep 13, 2018 21:04:48   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
You miss every shot you don't take ...

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Sep 13, 2018 21:17:28   #
srt101fan
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You miss every shot you don't take ...



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Sep 14, 2018 21:24:29   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
srt101fan wrote:
Not sure if I can express this question clearly enough to avoid off-the-rail and tangential responses, but here goes…

I’m trying to better understand and improve my reactions in response to shooting situations where things change (or could potentially change) rapidly - the subject moves, backgrounds or other visual elements change, lighting changes, etc. In those scenarios the photographer may have to make quick decisions - reposition himself, move the camera, change settings, etc. This need for quick mental assessments also applies to situations where the photographer is rushed to take a shot, as in a spontaneous event or fleeting moment (e.g., Eisenstaedt’s photo of the couple kissing in Times Square). In the Wikipedia article on Cartier-Bresson there is a reference to “…gut reactions to fleeting situations that he had happened upon.”

I’m not talking here about quickness in manipulating camera adjustments; that’s a matter of knowing your camera and practice. I’m talking about mental quickness in taking in a dynamic scene where the positions, qualities, relative strengths, etc, of its visual elements change.

So, the question is: Can quickness in photographically appraising a situation, and making the appropriate reaction decisions, be learned and improved? Or are some of us more “deliberate” thinkers, more suited for something like table-top photography, where we can play around with the lighting and position of the visual elements? Do some of us have innate physiological and/or psychological traits that are essentially fixed and limit our ability to engage in photography in dynamic scenarios such as photojournalism, sports and street?

Wise words of wisdom are always appreciated!
Not sure if I can express this question clearly en... (show quote)


YES. Practice, practice, practice. Also, for me, knowing about all of the art elements of photography, such as composition and color, helps me to make instant choices and get the shot I want. I don't just see the subject, I see the whole scene right away and hit the button based on instant decision-making.

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Sep 14, 2018 21:51:33   #
srt101fan
 
via the lens wrote:
YES. Practice, practice, practice. Also, for me, knowing about all of the art elements of photography, such as composition and color, helps me to make instant choices and get the shot I want. I don't just see the subject, I see the whole scene right away and hit the button based on instant decision-making.


That's the point! You nailed it...I don't see the whole scene right away. I want to improve on that, but I wonder if that ability for quick assessments is learnable or if I'm limited by innate psychological traits.

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Sep 14, 2018 22:03:48   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
srt101fan wrote:
That's the point! You nailed it...I don't see the whole scene right away. I want to improve on that, but I wonder if that ability for quick assessments is learnable or if I'm limited by innate psychological traits.


It is learnable. Study about the art of photography, line, color and tone, composition, texture, shape, form, space, pattern, etc. (There is a ton of information online.) Then start looking for the elements of art when you go out shooting. Shoot for the elements that frame the subject. You can learn this as many others have, including me.

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Sep 14, 2018 22:05:33   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
srt101fan wrote:
That's the point! You nailed it...I don't see the whole scene right away. I want to improve on that, but I wonder if that ability for quick assessments is learnable or if I'm limited by innate psychological traits.


We're all limited, and our reaction times decline with time, inevitably - something I notice more with each passing year. I wouldn't use the word "learnable" but I think most things are "improveable" (except for my ability to carry a tune...).

Andy

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Sep 14, 2018 22:10:58   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
AndyH wrote:
We're all limited, and our reaction times decline with time, inevitably - something I notice more with each passing year. I wouldn't use the word "learnable" but I think most things are "improveable" (except for my ability to carry a tune...).

Andy


Andy, I don't think the subject here is speed but the ability to "eyeball" a scene and see the shot quickly. This is "learnable." Everything can be improved upon.

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Sep 14, 2018 22:14:04   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
srt101fan wrote:
That's the point! You nailed it...I don't see the whole scene right away. I want to improve on that, but I wonder if that ability for quick assessments is learnable or if I'm limited by innate psychological traits.


Maybe one way to learn is go on shoots or photowalks with other photographers.
I have sometimes done this with groups that shoot 'scapes. Even you are at the same location at the same time it is interesting to see how other photographers work and the different results achieved. Also we have a get together (usually breakfast) after a shoot, which gives time for discussion.
Even when shooting motor racing, where you can have a chat between races, with good photographers you can bounce ideas of each other.

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Sep 14, 2018 22:15:48   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
via the lens wrote:
Andy, I don't think the subject here is speed but the ability to "eyeball" a scene and see the shot quickly. This is "learnable." Everything can be improved upon.


Fair enough. But it still involves mental quickness, and that, inevitably, declines with age. As the song says...

I may not be as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was....

Andy

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Sep 14, 2018 22:25:51   #
srt101fan
 
AndyH wrote:
We're all limited, and our reaction times decline with time, inevitably - something I notice more with each passing year. I wouldn't use the word "learnable" but I think most things are "improveable" (except for my ability to carry a tune...).

Andy


So, Andy, are we to consider ourselves lucky that there is no audio on UHH?

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Sep 14, 2018 22:47:39   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
srt101fan wrote:
So, Andy, are we to consider ourselves lucky that there is no audio on UHH?


Hah! Most definitely... you'd hear my wife and daughter shouting out "Don't sing, Andy, DON'T SING!!!"

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Sep 14, 2018 23:16:45   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
srt101fan wrote:
Good point SS.

Now, wrt the guy mooning you mentioned earlier, you think Eisenstaedt or Cartier-Bresson would have gotten that shot? 😕


Lets just say, if I hear a commotion somewhere I
m not looking, I ALWAYS look now and it's never been anything but I'm more ready, that's for sure!
I can assume the likes of HCB DID know that!!!
SS

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