All Hell Broke Loose !! (Page 3): I can. I detest garlic and cheese (all kinds), and am so-so on broccoli. (Just posting to let you know that some dissidents do exist.)...

David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA

Gene51 wrote:

My kids would run, screaming, like their hair was on fire at the mere sight of broccoli on the cutting board. Until I put it on some homemade pizza with lots of garlic. They instantly changed their tune. Now they are 29, 31 and 36 and they love broccoli. Who can resist bread, garlic, cheese and broccoli?

I can. I detest garlic and cheese (all kinds), and am so-so on broccoli. (Just posting to let you know that some dissidents do exist.)

delkeener Loc: SW Rhode Island, USA

Little green flower buds of broccoli are very unsightly between your teeth.

PeterBergh wrote:

I'm no longer very young, but I have a similar, unfounded aversion to broccoli ;-)

Bill P

I like what I can do in ACR, you should be able to download it for free. Use it, you will be happy/

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

David in Dallas wrote:

I can. I detest garlic and cheese (all kinds), and am so-so on broccoli. (Just posting to let you know that some dissidents do exist.)

Well, garlic and cheese do have some serious olfactory impacts. For some, those aromas can make mouths water, but to others, something a bit more substantial gets brought up - which I can understand. I guess you aren't a fan of Mexican, Asian, Indian, Portuguese, Spanish, French, Italian, North African, Eastern Mediterranean, Caribbean and Central and South American cooking either . . .

Wow!

Linary Loc: UK

Bill P wrote:

I like what I can do in ACR, you should be able to download it for free. Use it, you will be happy/

ACR is a plug in for Photoshop and Bridge. It will not work without Photoshop. A functional - if a little less able - version of ACR is packaged with Photoshop Elements.

blackest Loc: Ireland

Linary wrote:

ACR is a plug in for Photoshop and Bridge. It will not work without Photoshop. A functional - if a little less able - version of ACR is packaged with Photoshop Elements.

Thats kinda not quite true Bridge comes with ACR and is intended to be read only unless photoshop or perhaps premier is used to open a raw file. At this point Bridge becomes write enabled and you can use Bridges version of ACR.

It's not 100% clear which versions of photoshop qualify which versions of Bridge ( and its version of ACR). Bridge CC 2018 seems to use the same version of ACR as is used by Lightroom 7 classic.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

blackest wrote:

Thats kinda not quite true Bridge comes with ACR and is intended to be read only unless photoshop or perhaps premier is used to open a raw file. At this point Bridge becomes write enabled and you can use Bridges version of ACR.

It's not 100% clear which versions of photoshop qualify which versions of Bridge ( and its version of ACR). Bridge CC 2018 seems to use the same version of ACR as is used by Lightroom 7 classic.

My copy of Bridge allows direct opening of a RAW file in ACR. Thanks for pointing that out. It is kinda a dead end. Any ACR adjustments are saved in an .xmp file so can then be read into Lightroom, Photoshop or any other program that reads .xmp files. But, I can't find a way to print, save as JPEG or anything else useful.

blackest Loc: Ireland

bsprague wrote:

My copy of Bridge allows direct opening of a RAW file in ACR. Thanks for pointing that out. It is kinda a dead end. Any ACR adjustments are saved in an .xmp file so can then be read into Lightroom, Photoshop or any other program that reads .xmp files. But, I can't find a way to print, save as JPEG or anything else useful.

ACR should have a button on the left labeled 'Save as' and top right in the main bridge interface there are a number of options other than 'essential' one is output, you can create a contact print amongst other things. The output option isn't in Adobe Bridge CC 2017 apparently , it is in Adobe Bridge CC 2018

blackest Loc: Ireland

bsprague wrote:

My copy of Bridge allows direct opening of a RAW file in ACR. Thanks for pointing that out. It is kinda a dead end. Any ACR adjustments are saved in an .xmp file so can then be read into Lightroom, Photoshop or any other program that reads .xmp files. But, I can't find a way to print, save as JPEG or anything else useful.

you might need to add this

https://helpx.adobe.com/bridge/kb/install-output-module-bridge-cc.html

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

blackest wrote:

you might need to add this

https://helpx.adobe.com/bridge/kb/install-output-module-bridge-cc.html

I do have that and I found the save button in ACR.

Since I have the CC subscription, I can't tell if the ACR I get in Bridge is the same as what I would get if I didn't have the CC subscription. In other words, would the Bridge/ACR combination work the same with or without the CC subscription?

blackest Loc: Ireland

bsprague wrote:

I do have that and I found the save button in ACR.

Since I have the CC subscription, I can't tell if the ACR I get in Bridge is the same as what I would get if I didn't have the CC subscription. In other words, would the Bridge/ACR combination work the same with or without the CC subscription?

I've played around with this a bit the camera raw plugin is actually quite small between around 50 - 80ish Megabytes in size. its the same plugin for bridge and photoshop.

On a Mac the path is Library/applicationsupport/adobe/plugins/cc/fileformats/CameraRaw.plugin

The 9.x series works with cc 2017 and the 10.x series works with photoshop cc 2018. If its the wrong series Photoshop can't even open a jpeg.
I did try It would be nice to have the 10.x series ACR raw working on Yosemite but it doesn't although to be fair its just the new layer filters that were added to ACR in its latest version.

delkeener Loc: SW Rhode Island, USA

My Lumix LX100 came with a CD with "SILKYPIX Developer Studio" app. First step: develop Lumix Raw in SilkyPix and save in the file type you prefer.