User ID wrote:
Don't look now, but ....
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Yes, but if one is "stuck in his (anti-MILC) story", there is no feature or capability that is truly awesome ENOUGH ~ is there?
User ID wrote:
Don't look now, but ....
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But what? Mirrorless offers me nothing I want that I don’t already have. In fact, for me mirrorless would be a step backwards. When mirrorless does offer an upgrade in capability as measured against my requirements, then I’ll consider mirrorless.
Why can’t mirrorless fanboi’s understand this simple concept?
HT wrote:
But what? Mirrorless offers me nothing I want that I don’t already have. In fact, for me mirrorless would be a step backwards. When mirrorless does offer an upgrade in capability as measured against my requirements, then I’ll consider mirrorless.
Why can’t mirrorless fanboi’s understand this simple concept?
Who knocked on your door this morning and said they're confiscating your DSLR and you have to buy a mirrorless camera to resume shooting?
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you need one today, well maybe that will impact today's decision. But, if you have a recent vintage, say one of the top 2017 or 2018 models, in 2-years or so, isn't it more likely the market will be all mirrorless?
What would a mirrorless camera do that you cannot do with your current system? The mirrorless "revolution" is young. The technology will evolve several times in a year. Canon came our with an "R" version this month. EOS lenses will not work without an adapter. If you invest in a new system, how long before changes make it obsolete? Again, the question is what will the new system do that you can't do with your existing system. Better off investing in new glass for your current system until the mirrorless becomes more mature.
DrPhrogg wrote:
What would a mirrorless camera do that you cannot do with your current system? The mirrorless "revolution" is young. The technology will evolve several times in a year. Canon came our with an "R" version this month. EOS lenses will not work without an adapter. If you invest in a new system, how long before changes make it obsolete? Again, the question is what will the new system do that you can't do with your existing system. Better off investing in new glass for your current system until the mirrorless becomes more mature.
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At 13-pages, some of your questions have been addressed in other posts, some multiple times. The EF to R adapter makes all EF (and EFS) lenses compatible with the R body. The decision to get R lenses is then a question of their unique offerings, such as the immediately unique RF 28-70mm
f/2 L lens. The EOS R also supports autofocus at f/11, a unique capability vs any DSLR. So, it's not just a question of new for new's sake ....
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The current school graduates tend toward minimalists more than acquisitive habits and I see them using their smart phones instead of computers and single use cameras. Many are not interested in ownership of much at all and disdain consumerism.
The only way I will not by another DLSR is if Nikon quits making them. Happy shooting.
BHC
Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
BebuLamar wrote:
If it has a rangefinder like the Leica then it's a rangefinder. Live view is a feature shared by many types of cameras including mirrorless, DSLR and Digital Rangefinder.
Then I'll go one stop farther. I wouldn't buy a DSLR or a mitrorless. I'd buy a full frame digital rangefinder.
BHC wrote:
Then I'll go one stop farther. I wouldn't buy a DSLR or a mitrorless. I'd buy a full frame digital rangefinder.
Sure the M10 is a great camera.
Bill P wrote:
Here'a a reason: My shoulders and back. You'll understand when you get to my age.
Bill, I'm 84 years old, 135 lbs., and I often shoot with my Sony slr with a 600mm Sigma mirror lens, hand held manual focus . Sounds to me like you better start using an iphone for photography.
PeterBergh wrote:
I hate beating a dead horse, but the answer to this question is neither; picture quality depends entirely on the operator.
OK. Let's put it to the test. Go outside your house with ... just you. No camera. No pen and paper. No canvas. No Nothing. Just you the photographer. Now, take your best shot and post it.
What!???! You can't take a photo without equipment????!!?? Wow! That's a surprise.
Equipment is not only a part of the equation, it is a the very heart of all art. Art is ultimately technology used. Whether that tech is a camera, a brush, a pen, the acoustics of a theater or whatever. It is all dependent on the existence of tech. The "operator", while the most important element, is just one element.
In fact it is often talented operators who drive advances in tech. They want better low light performance to capture a vision not possible before. Or a faster shutter to stop motion. Or a high quality EVF so they can see what they will get so they can pay more attention to composition. Or faster more accurate focus, so they are ready for a changing environment. The list could go on.
So clearly it is not "entirely on the operator" And in fact, it is the talented operators who drive the advances in the cameras they are the first to adopt.
dsmeltz wrote:
OK. Let's put it to the test. Go outside your house with ... just you. No camera. No pen and paper. No canvas. No Nothing. Just you the photographer. Now, take your best shot and post it.
What!???! You can't take a photo without equipment????!!?? Wow! That's a surprise.
Equipment is not only a part of the equation, it is a the very heart of all art. Art is ultimately technology used. Whether that tech is a camera, a brush, a pen, the acoustics of a theater or whatever. It is all dependent on the existence of tech. The "operator", while the most important element, is just one element.
In fact it is often talented operators who drive advances in tech. They want better low light performance to capture a vision not possible before. Or a faster shutter to stop motion. Or a high quality EVF so they can see what they will get so they can pay more attention to composition. Or faster more accurate focus, so they are ready for a changing environment. The list could go on.
So clearly it is not "entirely on the operator" And in fact, it is the talented operators who drive the advances in the cameras they are the first to adopt.
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Oh, my! A rational reply! I'll archive this one, for sure!
Redron
Loc: Fairfield. California
I have a DSLR and all the lenses and its a lot to carry but when i want macro it handles a 100mm 2.8 very well nothing can touch it for the flower photography i like. All around it takes great Raw and jpegs
I have a mirrorless point and shoot and it takes amazing pictures Raw and jpeg also
i would buy a DSLR
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you need one today, well maybe that will impact today's decision. But, if you have a recent vintage, say one of the top 2017 or 2018 models, in 2-years or so, isn't it more likely the market will be all mirrorless?
That would be a decision for a couple of years from now and would depend on what would best meet my photographic requirements at the time.
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I probably wouldn't if I owned one, which I won't. So for me, m4/3 covers it all. If I need something particular, I've still got the D3 and a bunch of lenses.
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