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Sep 10, 2018 21:37:07   #
MrGNY Loc: New York
 
Racmanaz wrote:
I had come across this photo while scrolling through my Facebook thread and replied that I perceived that this shoe photo has a gray background and Teal trimming, others perceived it as pink and white. Can someone please explain how this occurs and does this have the same effect when editing photo's on your editing software?

Looks like pink and white on my iPad. Now the reason the image looks different on some devices is the settings for your screen. The back;ighting be turned up or down, warmer or cooler colors selected. Monitors be calibrated or not.

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Sep 10, 2018 22:03:01   #
gerdog
 
I think it's just because they are so sure of what they see, it's hard to believe that anyone would see a different color. One example I read about is how a white tee shirt looks different in bright sunshine than in the shadow under a tree. The shadow shifts the light just enough so that the shirt takes on a very very slight blue tint. But since your brain knows that the shirt is white, it discards the hint of blue. Then if you later see a dress of that same slight blue tint, your brain perceives it as a white dress in the shade. In the case of the dress in the news a few years ago, three quarters of viewers perceived it to be white and gold, even though it was actually blue and black. The majority was wrong, even though their perception ability was normal.

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Sep 10, 2018 22:16:11   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
gerdog wrote:
I think it's just because they are so sure of what they see, it's hard to believe that anyone would see a different color. One example I read about is how a white tee shirt looks different in bright sunshine than in the shadow under a tree. The shadow shifts the light just enough so that the shirt takes on a very very slight blue tint. But since your brain knows that the shirt is white, it discards the hint of blue. Then if you later see a dress of that same slight blue tint, your brain perceives it as a white dress in the shade. In the case of the dress in the news a few years ago, three quarters of viewers perceived it to be white and gold, even though it was actually blue and black. The majority was wrong, even though their perception ability was normal.
I think it's just because they are so sure of what... (show quote)


I thought the dress was light blue and brown, something a very small percentage also saw in a survey. I can't do anything about my color vision, which tests normal any way I do it online. Apparently others who are also normal perceive some colors differently, but as I said, how can you really see what someone else sees? This is in no way a hoax or monitor mis-calibration.

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Sep 11, 2018 07:44:42   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
srt101fan wrote:
Where is the hoax? 😕
I believe it had to do with someone posting the WB-adjusted teal-colored shoe beside the correct pink shoe, so some thought the teal-colored was for sale and tried to find it on the company's website. But I see that selmslie is still sputtering about how we fail to see the light (and copy/pasting parts of my comments from here to his thread - could the world be any crazier than what's right inside UHH?!)

Two users have instructively pointed out specifics that can help us question the true color of the photograph.

From blackest, "it looks to have a cyan cast where it should be white and a pink cast where it should be gray." From CO, "It looks like there's a lot of chroma digital noise in the photo. I can see the colored speckles on the stool on the right and on the furniture on the left. I wonder if that is altering the overall color of the shoe. What color is the stool seat actually? If it has wooden seat, it's probably light brown. The chroma noise altered its color quite a bit. The person's hand is taking on the pinkish hue also. The person's hand should be flesh colored."

From amfoto1, excellent discussion on monitor calibration and more:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-552675-4.html#9387579

In this thread many of us enjoyed the discussion of how our brains perceive colors; others felt the need to create new threads to go a different way.

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Sep 11, 2018 08:14:31   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
gerdog wrote:
One example I read about is how a white tee shirt looks different in bright sunshine than in the shadow under a tree. The shadow shifts the light just enough so that the shirt takes on a very very slight blue tint. But since your brain knows that the shirt is white, it discards the hint of blue...
This is similar to what was mentioned in one of the articles I read.

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Sep 11, 2018 08:16:10   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
gerdog wrote:
... I had several guys look at it on my TV from the exact same spot, and they almost wanted to get into a fist fight over their disagreements. Some others here are trying to blame it on a miscalibrated monitor, but that is not what is happening. People's brains are simply perceiving the picture differently.
If they were UHH members, they could just start a new thread

Actually, when I saw the new topic titled "Time to lighten up," I thought that was a commentary on selmslie's



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Sep 11, 2018 09:08:04   #
srt101fan
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I believe it had to do with someone posting the WB-adjusted teal-colored shoe beside the correct pink shoe, so some thought the teal-colored was for sale and tried to find it on the company's website. But I see that selmslie is still sputtering about how we fail to see the light (and copy/pasting parts of my comments from here to his thread - could the world be any crazier than what's right inside UHH?!)

Two users have instructively pointed out specifics that can help us question the true color of the photograph.

From blackest, "it looks to have a cyan cast where it should be white and a pink cast where it should be gray." From CO, "It looks like there's a lot of chroma digital noise in the photo. I can see the colored speckles on the stool on the right and on the furniture on the left. I wonder if that is altering the overall color of the shoe. What color is the stool seat actually? If it has wooden seat, it's probably light brown. The chroma noise altered its color quite a bit. The person's hand is taking on the pinkish hue also. The person's hand should be flesh colored."

From amfoto1, excellent discussion on monitor calibration and more:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-552675-4.html#9387579

In this thread many of us enjoyed the discussion of how our brains perceive colors; others felt the need to create new threads to go a different way.
I believe it had to do with someone posting the WB... (show quote)


Linda, all the talk of color balance, "true" color, monitor adjustments, etc. may be interesting, but I'm still hung up on how ANYBODY could look at the OP's question re what colors people see in the shoe picture and claim it's a hoax!!

If instead of the shoe picture I showed 10 people the Mona Lisa and asked them what colors they saw, would that be a hoax? In the context of the OP's question it doesn't make a damned bit of difference how the shoe image was created or how "correct" or "wrong" the colors may be.

I guess what we have with the "hoax advocates" is a classic example of trolling where there is no room for logic.

Time to move on and smell the flowers in the "Gallery"... 😊

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Sep 11, 2018 09:09:38   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
srt101fan wrote:
...I guess what we have with the "hoax advocates" is a classic example of trolling where there is no room for logic...Time to move on and smell the flowers in the "Gallery"... 😊
Logic and civil discourse. I'll meet you at the flower stand!

(over and out...)

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Sep 11, 2018 09:28:10   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Logic and civil discourse. I'll meet you at the flower stand!

(over and out...)

Me too.

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Sep 12, 2018 10:37:18   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Here's one: https://www.xrite.com/hue-test

I actually got a perfect score! But it's a good thing you get to move the same tile more than once because I swear the colors change


The colors don't change, Linda. They only "Appear" to change because of their relationship to other colors and proximity.
This test was similar to an exercise we had to do with Pantone color swatches as art students a thousand years ago as an art student.

Doing a similar exercise, one can make another color appear completely different when placed next to another color.
You can pick up color swatches at a paint store without buyin a Pantone set if you want to play.

BTW, I got a "0." Not bad for 72 year old eyes.

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Sep 12, 2018 10:46:14   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Here's one: https://www.xrite.com/hue-test

I actually got a perfect score! But it's a good thing you get to move the same tile more than once because I swear the colors change


Hi Linda, I, too, got a Zero score and I also moved the colors around after looking at them for a bit. Interesting test as I could see the colors change as I moved the blocks from one spot to another.

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Sep 12, 2018 11:18:23   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Indi and Via - a fun exercise for sure!

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