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Sep 8, 2018 11:39:58   #
ygelman Loc: new -- North of Poughkeepsie!
 
abc1234 wrote:
No Linda, you are not have a SBC but what you may not know is that displacement was, as I wrote, not arbitrary but by formula...
Linda From Maine wrote:
Thanks for the additional note, and I am one who didn't understand that a formula was used to result in a pleasing display.

So, what is/was the formula??

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Sep 8, 2018 11:45:16   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
ygelman wrote:
So, what is/was the formula??
Excellent question! Here are two Google results:
http://www.logangraphic.com/blog/how-to-measure-for-mat-cutting-and-picture-framing/
http://www.russellcottrell.com/photo/centering.htm

But I suspect that ABC will be able to state more clearly, and in fewer words

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Sep 28, 2018 10:55:58   #
Rob48 Loc: Portland, ME
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
This is for PS Elements; let me know if works same for PS, or how you like to do it!

Choose a background color from the swatches on lower left of the editor.

Enter the numbers to the crop tool section for the finished size you want (8x10, 5x7 etc).

Photo #1: start the crop and when the tool reaches the edge, let go of the mouse. But DO NOT click OK.

Photo #2: Instead, grab the corner again and drag until the position is what you desire.

Photo #3: Now let go of the mouse button and your extended canvas will be in place at the dimensions you entered initially to your crop tool options. Add Christmas greetings to this one


Photo #4: Make an 8x12 into an 8x10, and use the room on bottom to add a title.

Photo #5: white space added as evenly as possible all around so the result would fit an 8x12 frame.

I'll check in later for any questions, corrections or further suggestions. Thanks!
This is for PS Elements; let me know if works same... (show quote)




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Oct 19, 2018 06:19:06   #
rdfarr Loc: Floridian living in AL
 
Good tips. I especially like adding a title tip.
I'm always trying to fit my occasional, odd-sized photos into a standard mat.

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Oct 19, 2018 08:56:30   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Thanks very much!

I remember when I was taught how to cut mats (decades ago), we left a little more on the bottom than the other sides. But, unless I'm having a truly senior brain cramp moment, the pre-cut "consumer" mats today are all equal. Probably for most casual viewers (i.e. non-photographers), equal is what they are used to.


I has been a few years since I took a framing course; when I did the instructor gave a specific reason for having the mat a bit wider at the bottom than at the top: In days past, frames were often very elaborate, pieces of art themselves. When photos, prints, paintings, portraits, etc., are hung in "display areas", people usually look "up" to these and the bottom of the frame would hide a small strip of the mat. To compensate for that, you just make the bottom of the mat a bit wider, and it will give the illusion of being the same on all four sides.
My personal taste is, to always have the bottom a tad wider, to my eyes it looks more pleasing.

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Oct 19, 2018 09:06:25   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
rdfarr wrote:
Good tips. I especially like adding a title tip.
I'm always trying to fit my occasional, odd-sized photos into a standard mat.
Excellent, thanks!

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Oct 19, 2018 09:06:57   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Morning Star wrote:
I has been a few years since I took a framing course; when I did the instructor gave a specific reason for having the mat a bit wider at the bottom than at the top: In days past, frames were often very elaborate, pieces of art themselves. When photos, prints, paintings, portraits, etc., are hung in "display areas", people usually look "up" to these and the bottom of the frame would hide a small strip of the mat. To compensate for that, you just make the bottom of the mat a bit wider, and it will give the illusion of being the same on all four sides.
My personal taste is, to always have the bottom a tad wider, to my eyes it looks more pleasing.
I has been a few years since I took a framing cour... (show quote)
Interesting to know, thanks much.

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Oct 21, 2018 13:10:43   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
A lot of things persist even tho the reasons don't exist.
Back when I was young, a little extra space on the bottom "disappeared" when you put the framed picture on the picture rail above your head. To emulate this effect many folk just did this so the picture looked like it would fit as designed on a rail. It;s the 21st Century, and for simplicity these vestigial methods have mostly dropped off.
Kinda like having "Opera" lights or vases in your Studebaker.

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Oct 21, 2018 13:18:09   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Harry0 wrote:
A lot of things persist even tho the reasons don't exist.
Back when I was young, a little extra space on the bottom "disappeared" when you put the framed picture on the picture rail above your head. To emulate this effect many folk just did this so the picture looked like it would fit as designed on a rail. It;s the 21st Century, and for simplicity these vestigial methods have mostly dropped off.
Kinda like having "Opera" lights or vases in your Studebaker.

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Jan 19, 2019 09:44:07   #
JayRay Loc: Missouri
 
Thanks for the tips Linda!

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Jan 19, 2019 11:02:45   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
JayRay wrote:
Thanks for the tips Linda!
Glad you found the thread useful!

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