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Sep 9, 2018 03:58:40   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
I use my Leica screw mount lenses on an Olympus mirrorless body via an adapter. As MT stated, there is no digital body that mounts screw mount lenses without having to use an adapter. Your best choices will be mirrorless cameras with short flange distances and an adapter.


Thanks for your reply... Which OLY body and adapter do you use? Don't really want to add an optical adapter. Regards for your reply.

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Sep 9, 2018 04:09:37   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
amfoto1 wrote:
You are not SOL, by any means. You just cannot use those lenses with DSLRs, as you've discovered. Any DSLR adapters for them will either require image-qualty-spoiling optical correction, or without optical correction will not be able to focus farther than a few feet. This is true with ALL vintage rangefinder lenses... not just m39. They just aren't practical to use on any DSLRs (just as those lenses weren't usable on film SLRs).

Certainly, you could use them on various modern Leica digital "mirrorless", with an M39 screwmount-to-Leica digital L-mount (no optics necessary). Digital Leica are available in both APS-C and full frame models, but are VERY pricey.

Alternatively, you can adapt and use them on most current mirrorless camera.... Sony (APS-C or full frame), Canon (APS-C.... coming next month, full frame ), Nikon (coming soon, full frame).... Fujifilm (APS-C).... Olympus/Panasonic (micro 4/3). These will require m39 screwmount-to-whatever adapters, but those won't need any optics to allow the lens to focus all the way to infinity, just as it was originally designed. (Note: there likely won't be adapters right away for the new full frame models coming from Canon and Nikon.... And there's also rumor that Panasonic will be introducing a full frame model soon.)

The "register" or "lens flange to film/sensor plane focus distance" of Leica m39 screwmount lenses is 28.8mm. Leica bayonet film rangefinders use 27.8mm (leaving 1mm for screw-to-bayonet adapters).

ALL the above mirrorless use shorter lens register.... ranging from 20mm (Canon RF) to 16mm (Nikon Z)... allowing plenty of room for adapters without need for any optical correction.

Also, many mirrorless use an electronic viewfinder. These have features to help with manual focus, such as "focus peaking". This is not found in the optical viewfinders of DSLRs, most of which are designed with autofocus in mind and have little to no assistance for manual focus. Some DSLRs have Focus Confirmation or focus peaking in Live View mode. But, it's a moot point, since ALL DSLRs use much longer lens register, leaving no room for adapters without optics or that will allow infinity focus, with short register vintage rangefinder lenses.

So... take your pick from the crop of mirrorless cameras available. (The only mirrorles I can think of that won't work is the Fujifilm GFX, which is a medium format camera. It has short register, too... but requires lenses with a larger image circle than m39 lenses are able to produce.)

Personally I plan to buy a Canon M5 in the not too distant future. One of the reasons is because it will allow me to use many vintage lenses in my camera collection (albeit, with 1.6X "crop", due to the camera's APS-C size sensor). Among those are several m39 lenses.... and I've already confirmed adapters are available for them (as well as a variety of other vintage mounts). Those simple adapters are pretty inexpensive, too ($25 to $40, for quality m39 to Canon EF-M adapters).
You are not SOL, by any means. You just cannot use... (show quote)


Thanks Alan...……… I seem to have many options in the ML range of cameras, as quoted. I'm not looking to spend a lot of money on a complete new 'Super-System all singing-dancing bells and whistles. Just want a rather basic body and adapter to accommodate the Leica lenses in a light(er) weight set-up to my Nikon DSLR outfits. Thanks for you help. Regards...Paul.

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Sep 9, 2018 09:00:32   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I have an older Olympus Pen EP-3 as well as an Olympus OM-D EM-10. A simple mechanical adapter is all that is needed. I got one off os eBay & the cameras were purchased as refurbished units from Cameta to keep costs down...
Pablo8 wrote:
Thanks for your reply... Which OLY body and adapter do you use? Don't really want to add an optical adapter. Regards for your reply.

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Sep 9, 2018 10:02:22   #
Bob Locher Loc: Southwest Oregon
 
Hmm. It is true that you will not be using autofocus with Leica lenses. Now, I do know the Sony A-6000 fairly well, and little or nothing of the 4/3 cameras. But I do point out that that the Sony has a nifty focus magnifier for using manual focusing lenses,, with two different levels of magnification allowing critical focusing, AND two other and different options to show you how well focused a lens is - I mean besides simply seeing the image sharp on the screen or in the viewfinder. I do use manual legacy glass on mine so I do use manual focus and know of what I speak.

I do also point out that the Sony has a 24 megapixel sensor.

I think you will be hard pressed to find any reasonably current digital camera that does not offer auto-focusing, but although they do not promote it, Sony is about as good as they come for assisting manual focusing.

Cheers

Bob Locher

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Sep 9, 2018 10:29:31   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Bob Locher wrote:
Hmm. It is true that you will not be using autofocus with Leica lenses. Now, I do know the Sony A-6000 fairly well, and little or nothing of the 4/3 cameras. But I do point out that that the Sony has a nifty focus magnifier for using manual focusing lenses,, with two different levels of magnification allowing critical focusing, AND two other and different options to show you how well focused a lens is - I mean besides simply seeing the image sharp on the screen or in the viewfinder. I do use manual legacy glass on mine so I do use manual focus and know of what I speak.

I do also point out that the Sony has a 24 megapixel sensor.

I think you will be hard pressed to find any reasonably current digital camera that does not offer auto-focusing, but although they do not promote it, Sony is about as good as they come for assisting manual focusing.

Cheers

Bob Locher
Hmm. It is true that you will not be using autofoc... (show quote)

Olympus has focus peaking to assist manual focusing

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Sep 29, 2018 10:22:23   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Pablo8 wrote:
Contemplating getting a digital body that will accept my Leica screw lenses, without an adapter, and give me infinity focus. Just to give me a lighter carry around, and make better use of the quality optics. Any recommendations. Have used with adapter on Nikon DSLR, but only close-up images. Is there such a body / system?


Have now got adapter to fit Leica 39.screw lenses to a Sony camera. Here attached first shooting with the 9cm. F 4. Elmar lens. Still waiting for the Adapter for Takumar lenses.



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Sep 29, 2018 12:29:41   #
Bob Locher Loc: Southwest Oregon
 
Very nice! What model Sony camera did you get? And have you figured out how to use the focus magnifier?

Cheers

Bob Locher

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Sep 29, 2018 14:39:28   #
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MT Shooter wrote:

No digital body takes screw mount lenses, period.
Simple fact, sorry. Digital requires way too much
communication for screw mounts to be effective.
Screw mounts disappeared way before autofocus
even because of this fact.



The exception would be Leica's own digital bodies.
The use both L39 and M-mount and there are NO
electronics in the lens mount, which is why it can
use those lenses. The "M-Ring" converts the body
for L39 lenses. The RF works properly, etc. Once
the ring is in place it's nearly invisible.


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Sep 30, 2018 03:03:56   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Bob Locher wrote:
Very nice! What model Sony camera did you get? And have you figured out how to use the focus magnifier?

Cheers

Bob Locher


I got the 5000A ILCE...I can use the magnifier on 'Playback' , but the T-W lever does nothing in the shooting mode. However the 'Peak focus. works a treat. Bit of a mine-field remembering how I got/get to certain functions outside of the shooting mode. Just nice to use the Leica lenses again. Still got the 111c body.

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Aug 9, 2020 05:39:52   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Just come back to this old post of mine. Can't believe it's two years since I got the Sony body. Have overcome the problem of the body not having an eye-level finder. I use the viewing part from a Leica Visoflex directly onto the screen, with a 'skirt' of fabric around the rectangle , to blank out extraneous light. Those 1930's Leica lenses love their new purpose in life. Just like me , I am a 1936 person.

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Aug 9, 2020 05:50:46   #
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Aug 9, 2020 09:29:48   #
Hsch39 Loc: Northbrook, Illinois
 
User ID wrote:
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I believe you have the Sony a5000 mirrorless. Why don't you just use this adapter?



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Aug 9, 2020 09:39:24   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Hsch39 wrote:
I believe you have the Sony a5000 mirrorless. Why don't you just use this adapter?


He’s talking about the lack of a viewfinder, not adapting the lens.

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Aug 9, 2020 09:47:00   #
Hsch39 Loc: Northbrook, Illinois
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
He’s talking about the lack of a viewfinder, not adapting the lens.


The original question was about adapting the Leica screw-mount lenses to any camera. Apparently he bought a Sony a5000, and uses his Visoflex with this camera, which can not be directly attached to the camera. I just try to help out and make it easier for him. ....... Going back a few posts, I notice that he has the adapter already.

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Aug 10, 2020 02:55:27   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Hi 'SS' and 'Hsch 39'.. Yes, I use part of the Visoflex on the back-screen of the Sony5000 to enable me to cut out bright light reflections on the screen. The Sony does not have an eye-level TTL viewfinder. (Like Dslr's have). ! have three of the adapters for Leitz 39mm screw lenses.(Quite in- expensive in 'Leica' Terms.)Use of a tripod helps a lot while setting-up for a shot,

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