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Sep 5, 2018 13:05:14   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
I’m glad my 80D has both. I use the touch screen much more than the articulated screen, mostly to bring up the “Q” menu and change settings as required. The flip screen is helpful, as previously noted, for times when the camera is not at eye height (I have used it for birthday cakes on a table with the camera high up, and to shoot over people), or for selfies (which I haven’t done). Using the touch so much more, that would be my choice, if I had to choose.

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Sep 5, 2018 13:06:41   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
GrandmaG wrote:
That is the biggest advantage of Nikon..All the lenses work on all the cameras. Of course some are DESIGNED for DX or FX, but will still work on either. You just need to be aware of the possible shortcomings or advantages of doing that.


Yes, of course, G ... but the advantage of Nikon cameras is that you can do that, regardless ...

With Canons ... you can only use EF lenses on FF bodies ... but on APS-C bodies, you can use EF-S AND EF lenses ... an added plus, going that route ...

I had bought a D7000 so I could use all Nikon glass - but then I found out that was NOT the case ... so, I added the D7100 ...

My 60D will take any EOS glass available ... plus my T4i has Touch as well as articulated ... so, there's never been any reason to upgrade my Canon bodies!

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Sep 5, 2018 13:11:06   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
PHRubin wrote:
I’m glad my 80D has both. I use the touch screen much more than the articulated screen, mostly to bring up the “Q” menu and change settings as required. The flip screen is helpful, as previously noted, for times when the camera is not at eye height (I have used it for birthday cakes on a table with the camera high up, and to shoot over people), or for selfies (which I haven’t done). Using the touch so much more, that would be my choice, if I had to choose.


Yes, the 80D DOES have both, as the 70D before it, but the 60D I have - lacks touch, but has the flip-out screen ... the previous 50D had NEITHER!

So your vote, then - if you had to choose, Paul - is for Touch, rather than articulation ... duly noted ...

But, it's wonderful to have a camera which features BOTH - isn't it, Paul?


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Sep 5, 2018 13:14:18   #
throughrhettseyes Loc: Rowlett, TX
 
I'm old fashioned and very rarely use my touch screen on my D 500. I'm a button pusher kind of guy. As for the tilt screen. Hell yes! It's great if you are too old and fat to get down on the ground like I used too as a kid. I just wished the screen would tilt out to the side and go 180 degrees like my camcorder does. It would help a lot while doing videos with the D 500.

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Sep 5, 2018 13:21:04   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
throughrhettseyes wrote:
I'm old fashioned and very rarely use my touch screen on my D 500. I'm a button pusher kind of guy. As for the tilt screen. Hell yes! It's great if you are too old and fat to get down on the ground like I used too as a kid. I just wished the screen would tilt out to the side and go 180 degrees like my camcorder does. It would help a lot while doing videos with the D 500.


Most Canon APS-C bodies use the fully articulating screens - which DO flip out to the side ... as do the Nikon D5000 series ...

But the Nikon D500 you use, and the recently-released D7500 just have tilt screens, but they ARE both Touch, however ....

Perhaps - pick up a Nikon D5600 (or D5500) - Rhett ... what do you think?

That way, you can use the same glass you already have ... and be able to shoot low to the ground ... good idea, or what?

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Sep 5, 2018 13:22:41   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
Chris T wrote:
When it's out to the side, though, G ... I find it difficult to line up properly ... don't forget a DSLR camera reverses everything - so, that makes it awkward.

Sony models with articulating screens - don't present the same problems, when doing selfies ...

Apparently, the Pentax K-1 / K-1 II - a FF DSLR ... has an articulating screen - which CANNOT be turned around fully enough to do a selfie!!!!

Think about it! ... That's a $2000 rig, w/o any glass!!!! ....

Not sure why the D5000 screen can't be turned around fully enough to do a selfie ... are you sure you're doing it right? ... Or, is it broken?
When it's out to the side, though, G ... I find it... (show quote)


OK, you got me. I had to go and try doing a selfie on my cameras. I haven't used the D5000 since I gave it to my husband. You can turn the screen down & facing forward towards the lens (it doesn't go to the side) and take a selfie; but not easily with the 18-300 lens on it (which is the lens he prefers). When the picture is taken, it is reversed, although it looks correct before you take it!

Their is no way you can take a selfie with the D500. It's tilt screen is better than the one on the Sony a7iii, though.

The screen tilts up and faces forward to take a selfie on the Sony RX100 iii and it does a very nice job. It's small size may be part of the reason, too.

The D500 is by far my favorite camera and was a huge step up from the D7100.

I have no experience with the Pentax; but, it is WAY out of MY price range. I am content with my 3 cameras and I can always use my husbands as a back up if worse came to worse.

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Sep 5, 2018 13:29:14   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
Chris T wrote:
Yes, of course, G ... but the advantage of Nikon cameras is that you can do that, regardless ...

With Canons ... you can only use EF lenses on FF bodies ... but on APS-C bodies, you can use EF-S AND EF lenses ... an added plus, going that route ...

I had bought a D7000 so I could use all Nikon glass - but then I found out that was NOT the case ... so, I added the D7100 ...

My 60D will take any EOS glass available ... plus my T4i has Touch as well as articulated ... so, there's never been any reason to upgrade my Canon bodies!
Yes, of course, G ... but the advantage of Nikon c... (show quote)


What glass could you not use on the D7000?

Sounds like you prefer Canon. I stayed with Nikon because of all the lenses I had.

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Sep 5, 2018 13:34:30   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Chris T wrote:
Is a Touch-Screen conducive to making better pictures of buildings, or - for shooting stars, or are you better off with a flip-out screen (a la Canon) ... which of these two highly desirable features, would be more advantageous, in such shooting situations, as I have just described?

And, yes - you can have BOTH in some cameras, but, if you HAD to choose one or the other, which would prove to be a better aid - in the long run???
Is a Touch-Screen conducive to making better pictu... (show quote)


For shooting stars an articulated screen as on the Nikon D5xxxs is what you need. Also works when attaching camera to telescope.

Touch screen is for an entirely different purpose. The one on my GM5 replaces many buttons. The one on the latest D5600 extends the already elegant info screen operating approach.

Neither are a problem as the touch screen is off when using the viewfinder.

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Sep 5, 2018 14:01:04   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
GrandmaG wrote:
OK, you got me. I had to go and try doing a selfie on my cameras. I haven't used the D5000 since I gave it to my husband. You can turn the screen down & facing forward towards the lens (it doesn't go to the side) and take a selfie; but not easily with the 18-300 lens on it (which is the lens he prefers). When the picture is taken, it is reversed, although it looks correct before you take it!

Their is no way you can take a selfie with the D500. It's tilt screen is better than the one on the Sony a7iii, though.

The screen tilts up and faces forward to take a selfie on the Sony RX100 iii and it does a very nice job. It's small size may be part of the reason, too.

The D500 is by far my favorite camera and was a huge step up from the D7100.

I have no experience with the Pentax; but, it is WAY out of MY price range. I am content with my 3 cameras and I can always use my husbands as a back up if worse came to worse.
OK, you got me. I had to go and try doing a selfi... (show quote)


Had no idea the articulating screen on the D5000 was so limited, G ... I have both the D5300 and the D5500 ... and they both work the same as Canons.

They must have changed it, by then - obviously ... I thought the D5000 series all worked the same (until they introduced Touch on the D5500) ...

Yes, the K-1 / K-1 II are a little more expensive but, actually - it's a FF camera which costs approximately what your D500 cost ... which ain't bad!!!

The D500 is a huge step up from the D7000 series (any of them) but the most recent one - the D7500, has the same innards as the D500!!!!

So that model can't be all bad, can it? ... and it's $700 less expensive, too ... don't know much about your RX100III ... but sounds like it serves you well ...

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Sep 5, 2018 14:05:28   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
GrandmaG wrote:
What glass could you not use on the D7000?

Sounds like you prefer Canon. I stayed with Nikon because of all the lenses I had.


Apparently ... there's quite a few which are not compatible with the D7000 ... got a list somewhere, if you'd like me to post it ...

I do prefer Canon - for the ease of use of their bodies and more comfortable grips ... but I have only three, and I have five Nikon bodies.

But I've been buying glass longer for the Canons, than I have the Nikons, so I have twice as much glass for them, as I do the Nikons ...

So, I guess it all balances out - huh, G?

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Sep 5, 2018 14:11:22   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
Chris T wrote:
You have to keep realigning it, using the Info screen, To ... I know ... aggravating, isn't it?

There are one or two modes you can use - which set up the focus pixels in a fixed array ... you might want to try that, To ...


I have the centre button on the direction pad set to put the focus in the middle. It gets pressed a lot! Thanks for the tips.

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Sep 5, 2018 14:11:51   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
IDguy wrote:
For shooting stars an articulated screen as on the Nikon D5xxxs is what you need. Also works when attaching camera to telescope.

Touch screen is for an entirely different purpose. The one on my GM5 replaces many buttons. The one on the latest D5600 extends the already elegant info screen operating approach.

Neither are a problem as the touch screen is off when using the viewfinder.


I don't shoot stars much, ID ... prefer shooting stuff on the ground ... nature, scenic stuff ... that kinda thing ...

I have a few cameras, now, with articulating screens - D5300, D5500, T4i, 60D, a77, a77II ... exactly half ... I think, because it's so much bigger, and lends itself well to tripod-based shoots ... if I was going to shoot stars - the 60D is the one I'd use ...

Touch is a different matter, and is good for a number of uses ... chief among them - swiping back or forward to review pics on the SD card ...
I still have not explored fully all the other uses, but I will, in time ... I'm sure ....

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Sep 5, 2018 14:16:25   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
I have the centre button on the direction pad set to put the focus in the middle. It gets pressed a lot! Thanks for the tips.


Okay, To ... thereyago, then ... glad you figured it out ... very frustrating having the focus dots move off-center, I know ...

But, now - you realize, don't you ... if you only use ONE, when you could be using what - 11? ... 39? ... 51? ...

You're not using the full power of the camera's AF mechanism ... have you thought about that?

Isn't there a mode which allows a fixed-position cluster?

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Sep 5, 2018 14:34:54   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
Chris T wrote:
Okay, To ... thereyago, then ... glad you figured it out ... very frustrating having the focus dots move off-center, I know ...

But, now - you realize, don't you ... if you only use ONE, when you could be using what - 11? ... 39? ... 51? ...

You're not using the full power of the camera's AF mechanism ... have you thought about that?

Isn't there a mode which allows a fixed-position cluster?


I couldn't tell you right now what the settings are, but I have spent some time setting up the camera for what I'd like it to do. It's usually in group af, with single activating when I press the back button. I'm not sure of the other settings.

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Sep 5, 2018 14:45:25   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
I couldn't tell you right now what the settings are, but I have spent some time setting up the camera for what I'd like it to do. It's usually in group af, with single activating when I press the back button. I'm not sure of the other settings.


Well, keep exploring with it, then, To ... I'm sure you'll find a good compromise - fixed cluster, using all the AF points available, without excursion ....

Gotta be one, hasn't there?

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