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Aug 29, 2018 12:21:01   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DHooch wrote:
I will be one of the last to this party.

I have been organizing my photos and videos from my DSLR. I bought a high-end consumer video camera in 2004. It uses digital video tapes. Each tape holds an hour's worth of standard aspect video. When I'm done creating DVDs from the video, I store the tapes. They are self archiving.

I bought my high-end DSLR a few years ago in hopes that it would replace my older video camera. My DSLR has a few video formats, which work for me. Today, DSLRs have quite a few more video formats. What I am finding is that my DSLR is much harder to use as a video camera because it can't use the view finder when shooting videos. It has to use the live screen in the back of the camera, which, in my case, can't rotate and is inconvenient. Also, it is very hard to view in bright light. Lastly, unless I use my external mic, my DSLR's built-in mono microphone really sucks. My old video camera's built-in mic captures in stereo and it's quality is very good.

Now for my biggest gripe: as I said before, my old video camera used tapes that are self-archiving. I'm finding that my DSLR's video data has to be archived onto Blue-ray discs or external hard drives because of their huge file sizes. I think I have taken a step backwards from my old video camera. Yes, my DSLR takes better still photos than my old video camera (16 Mb vs. 2 Mb images) but my video images have taken a really big hit.

I predict that, someday, DSLRs will take better videos, more conveniently and have more features than the best video cameras, today. At that point, I will get rid of my old video camera and buy a new DSLR, just for the improved video capabilities. Until then, I guess I'm stuck with two cameras.
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You need not wait.

Just look at Panasonic’s Lumix GH4, GH5, GH5s, and G9 cameras. They record pro grade video in many formats, and excellent stills.

Sony mirrorless a7 series do it, too.

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Aug 29, 2018 12:30:13   #
Diocletian
 
dpullum wrote:
Incremental, until that break thru moment by one of the non-conservative countries that have positive education financing and actually value science. At one time that would have been the USA.




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Aug 29, 2018 12:36:44   #
Glenn Harve
 
Diocletian wrote:


Japanese biz is considered very conservative, and thats where our cameras are coming from.

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Aug 29, 2018 12:47:47   #
photogeneralist Loc: Lopez Island Washington State
 
Is the advance of camera technology going to slow at some point soon?
I think not. Throughout history there have been inventions that address a "need" by coming at it from a whole new direction. Although I have no idea now what that future direction might be, I can imagine that silicon based sensors might go the way of kodachrome under the onslaught of a new way of thinking about how to meet a "need".

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Aug 29, 2018 12:53:55   #
BlueMorel Loc: Southwest Michigan
 
Younger minds than I will discover the new best technology and new systems we can only dream of will emerge. My son is 25 and he envisions a cybernetic world within his lifetime. What a photographer envisions would be captured by the implanted enhanced sensors wirelessly connected to the output, whatever that might be.

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Aug 29, 2018 12:56:43   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
So our IT guy is rolling out new desktops and laptops at work. This happens about every 3 years. Many have noticed that the new machines are pretty much the same box performance-wise as they're giving up, making the swap-grade that much more painful. Now I realize that my coworkers and I, engineers for the most part, are not rocket scientists and we're not working to solve world hunger or cure cancer. We use our computers for the normal engineering stuff: basic CAD, email, minesweeper, etc. The formula the powers that be use to decide how nice of a PC we get every three years appears to be this: "get them the best PC you can for $2000 and spend $4000 on the guy in the corner who does all the crazy stuff.

Now from a camera standpoint, I can't afford to stay on the bleeding edge of technology. Photography is a hobby, after all. I own a D100, a D90, and a D7000, all purchased used. That said, I window shop and dream quite a bit when I'm not playing minesweeper. To me it seems cameras are still breaking some amazing ground. The D7500 and D500 are sports cars that make my D7000 look like a wheelbarrow, especially from an ISO standpoint. Yet the 7000 and the 7500 didn't have drastically different release prices when they were new. So from year to year, at least when it comes to cameras, it seems the same money is still buying better and better technology. I'm sure this the same for every brand and camera type, DSLR, Mirrorless, etc.

I guess I'm just wondering if cameras can continue this crazy space race for much longer. Does anyone think we're nearing the point where a camera made a couple years from now will not be significantly better than one made today? Oh, and one of you wonderful folks who just have to have the latest and greatest may currently own my next camera, so go ahead, trade that well-cared-for baby in.
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It's definitely not just cameras, but about anything and everything. Even the computers you mentioned doing the same thing, they look about the same on the outside, but on the inside is were all the change is happening. And then there are always trends, like mirrorless cameras, they are nothing new, been around for a hundred plus years, but now are trendy again, so they will speed up their advancement for a while. Its just something that has always been going on - it comes and goes, again and then again!

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Aug 29, 2018 13:01:13   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
InfiniteISO wrote:

I guess I'm just wondering if cameras can continue this crazy space race for much longer. Does anyone think we're nearing the point where a camera made a couple years from now will not be significantly better than one made today?

I think advancement will continue but the big advancement is/will be in the PC (Personal Computer, AKA Cell Phone.) The CellPhone already has made huge advances in both still and video photography. So much so most everyone under 40 use them exclusively, and the results are rather spectacular now, and just getting better.

The added bonus is your camera is always with you, not to mention it is also your tape recorder, flashlight, calculator, note pad, GPS, calendar, clock, TV remote, weather station, medical records keeper, encyclopedia, FM radio, music collection, photo collection, web browser, email app, text msg. app and more. It can even control your rapidly aging, old-fashioned DSLR.

The cell phone has practically killed the point and shoot market, and is working on the rest, also eroding the Desktop and laptop market. The money in the cell phone market is about unlimited, while the money available in the camera market is rapidly shrinking. The future, like it or not, is in the cell phone. Not sure how anyone couldn't like it, it is awesome now, and just getting better every year.

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Aug 29, 2018 13:19:23   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
So our IT guy is rolling out new desktops and laptops at work. This happens about every 3 years. Many have noticed that the new machines are pretty much the same box performance-wise as they're giving up, making the swap-grade that much more painful. Now I realize that my coworkers and I, engineers for the most part, are not rocket scientists and we're not working to solve world hunger or cure cancer. We use our computers for the normal engineering stuff: basic CAD, email, minesweeper, etc. The formula the powers that be use to decide how nice of a PC we get every three years appears to be this: "get them the best PC you can for $2000 and spend $4000 on the guy in the corner who does all the crazy stuff.

Now from a camera standpoint, I can't afford to stay on the bleeding edge of technology. Photography is a hobby, after all. I own a D100, a D90, and a D7000, all purchased used. That said, I window shop and dream quite a bit when I'm not playing minesweeper. To me it seems cameras are still breaking some amazing ground. The D7500 and D500 are sports cars that make my D7000 look like a wheelbarrow, especially from an ISO standpoint. Yet the 7000 and the 7500 didn't have drastically different release prices when they were new. So from year to year, at least when it comes to cameras, it seems the same money is still buying better and better technology. I'm sure this the same for every brand and camera type, DSLR, Mirrorless, etc.

I guess I'm just wondering if cameras can continue this crazy space race for much longer. Does anyone think we're nearing the point where a camera made a couple years from now will not be significantly better than one made today? Oh, and one of you wonderful folks who just have to have the latest and greatest may currently own my next camera, so go ahead, trade that well-cared-for baby in.
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I went to the D7200 for the second chip as backup during a shoot. The D7500 does not have it and other than a 1/4 or so ISO above my D7200 was no tech advance to me. The D850 is.

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Aug 29, 2018 13:30:33   #
DHooch
 
burkphoto wrote:
You need not wait.

Just look at Panasonic’s Lumix GH4, GH5, GH5s, and G9 cameras. They record pro grade video in many formats, and excellent stills.

Sony mirrorless a7 series do it, too.


Thanks, but, I have an investment in my lenses. If I switch, I'll keep Sony in mind. By the way, my video camera is a Sony and I love it!

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Aug 29, 2018 13:36:24   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
Once computer gains start slowing down, everything else will follow.

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Aug 29, 2018 14:27:54   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
So our IT guy is rolling out new desktops and laptops at work. This happens about every 3 years. Many have noticed that the new machines are pretty much the same box performance-wise as they're giving up, making the swap-grade that much more painful. Now I realize that my coworkers and I, engineers for the most part, are not rocket scientists and we're not working to solve world hunger or cure cancer. We use our computers for the normal engineering stuff: basic CAD, email, minesweeper, etc. The formula the powers that be use to decide how nice of a PC we get every three years appears to be this: "get them the best PC you can for $2000 and spend $4000 on the guy in the corner who does all the crazy stuff.
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There is a little thing called 'depreciation'. For the common mortal this is weird but when it comes to taxes it is a great deal.

As to the real question heck no!

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Aug 29, 2018 14:48:47   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DHooch wrote:
Thanks, but, I have an investment in my lenses. If I switch, I'll keep Sony in mind. By the way, my video camera is a Sony and I love it!


I abandoned my Nikon and Canon gear for Panasonic. To hell with my investment in ten lenses! The switch was MORE than worth the trade-off.

The only thing I miss about my Sony and Canon camcorders is the power zoom feature.

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Aug 29, 2018 16:10:20   #
Daryl New Loc: Wellington,New Zealand
 
Well put sx2002....

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Aug 29, 2018 17:21:16   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
IDguy wrote:
I feel digital cameras are fast approaching the auto industry level of innovation. Today’s autos transport you the same as 1950s autos. But they have many additional features that improve the experience, from automatic transmissions and air conditioning through adaptive cruise control and auto parking.

But the 1950 model still gets you from point A to point B in the same time.


Yes but you stand a far greater chance of surviving a high speed crash. You get better gas mileage, more power, and waaaay less air pollution. There has been a price in dollars to be paid but the decreased loss of lives from crashes and cancers has been priceless.

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Aug 29, 2018 17:59:40   #
SierraP Loc: Eastern Sierras
 
I am sure that the advancement in cameras will eventually slow. As an ex-aerospace engineer, I know that the technology on the drawing boards, won't be public for years. We had things that weren't available to the public for 20-25 years. Each milestone will be more difficult than the last. But there will always some new innovation to encourage us all to lust for the latest new thing.

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