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Aug 27, 2018 16:46:51   #
gwilliams6
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I wouldn't check with the photographer. The bride and groom told the OP to stop taking pictures and I like the OP would respect the bride and groom. I wouldn't care about the photographer.


Wedding photographers are a key and indispensable part of the wedding party's team. They have talked in advance with the bride and groom, officiate, caterers, band, DJ, wedding planners, etc. ,and together they set the rules and schedules of activities for the special day, so don't ignore the photographer. My wedding couples and I are always on the same page and they give me the freedom to know and do what is best to get them the best images. When I am taking photos for them, I have their full authority, and they put me in charge of the scene. Cheers

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Aug 27, 2018 16:50:37   #
BebuLamar
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Wedding photographers are a key and indispensable part of the wedding party's team. They have talked in advance with the bride and groom, officiate, caterers, band, DJ, wedding planners, etc. ,and together they set the rules and schedules of activities for the special day, so don't ignore the photographer. My wedding couples and I are always on the same page and they give me the freedom to know and do what is best to get them the best images. When I am taking photos for them, they have put me in charge of the scene. Cheers
Wedding photographers are a key and indispensable ... (show quote)


But the bride and groom tell me to go ahead I wouldn't care about the photographer. I would care if they walk out or sue the groom and bride. I only respect the groom and bride wish.

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Aug 27, 2018 16:56:13   #
gwilliams6
 
BebuLamar wrote:
But the bride and groom tell me to go ahead I wouldn't care about the photographer. I would care if they walk out or sue the groom and bride. I only respect the groom and bride wish.


You dont seem to get it. You need to respect the photographer as well as the bride and groom. Any good wedding photographer will totally be on the same page as the bride and groom. The bride and groom may be busy doing something else as I am getting the next scene and/or venue ready with my lighting and assistants. They may not be in earshot of you to ask them anything. I always, upfront and in writing in my contract, get their authority to be in charge of any shooting scene. I have discussed and know their wants and needs and I always respect all their guests and family. The bride and groom want me to take charge and give them the best coverage. But I am also always flexible should any situation change and I honor any bride and groom or family additional requests as much as possible.

I am there to please the wedding party, family and guests, and do the best job I can while keeping it all light and fun. My reputation and business depends as much on great experiences and great testimonials from my work, as much as it depends on my images. Cheers

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Aug 27, 2018 18:45:54   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
Im retired now for over 25 years. I was a wedding photographer. I got most all my jobs from word of mouth. Do a good job and they will come to you. I never rejected other friends of the bride from taken as many photos as they wanted. They were snapshots. I gave them 10 X10s in finished albums. They didn't have to pick out the ones they wanted they had to decide the ones they didn't want. Most photographers gave them a small 5 X 5 proof album. I made a lot more money than those guys. I was busy saturday's and sunday's. I remember one weekend when I Done Four weddings. I retired from my job in the aerospace industry and wedding photography the same time. That was back in the film days. Things are a lot differn't now. I feel sorry for the wedding photographer today.

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Aug 27, 2018 18:58:10   #
BebuLamar
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
You dont seem to get it. You need to respect the photographer as well as the bride and groom. Any good wedding photographer will totally be on the same page as the bride and groom. The bride and groom may be busy doing something else as I am getting the next scene and/or venue ready with my lighting and assistants. They may not be in earshot of you to ask them anything. I always, upfront and in writing in my contract, get their authority to be in charge of any shooting scene. I have discussed and know their wants and needs and I always respect all their guests and family. The bride and groom want me to take charge and give them the best coverage. But I am also always flexible should any situation change and I honor any bride and groom or family additional requests as much as possible.

I am there to please the wedding party, family and guests, and do the best job I can while keeping it all light and fun. My reputation and business depends as much on great experiences and great testimonials from my work, as much as it depends on my images. Cheers
You dont seem to get it. You need to respect the p... (show quote)


The event wasn't the photographer's event. I don't know the photographer and I don't care about his/her feeling. He/she has no right at the place except whatever he contracted with the bride and groom and it's up to the groom and bride to choose to honor that contract or not. I wouldn't care less if he walks out and take no pictures.

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Aug 27, 2018 19:43:32   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
You should do what the bride and groom asked you. They could ask you to leave.

In my ex-wife's family, they wouldn't dare. There would be no one else trained to deliver the baby if the bride went into labor.

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Aug 27, 2018 19:54:52   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I wouldn't check with the photographer. The bride and groom told the OP to stop taking pictures and I like the OP would respect the bride and groom. I wouldn't care about the photographer.

I meant I would have courteously asked the photographer BEFORE taking pictures. Even if the photographer had consented, I would have complied with the wishes of the B or G. But neither of them said a thing. I would have also complied with the wishes of the wedding party. I don't know if the sister was a member of the wedding party or a "required invitee" mad because SHE couldn't take pictures. Of course, one always understand that either MOMZILLA controls all!

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Aug 27, 2018 20:04:09   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
rwww80a wrote:
Are the pros really that paranoid and insecure about their work AND that amateurs could possibly make their work look bad or not as good?


I don't think they are either paranoid or insecure. Rather, they simply want a monopoly on all images taken at a wedding. If a guest wants a picture, they will have to go to the hired pro to get it. They figure that if someone is supplying images of the event for free, they will be losing potential sales.

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Aug 27, 2018 22:03:23   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
rwww80a wrote:
I have been taking pictures for 50 years (started with a Nikkormat FTn) with candids at the many weddings I have attended through the years.

This was a first!

In the ceremony program there was a statement (printed in the middle of the first page of the program) about the "excellent" photographers the couple had hired and not to take cell phone pix and post during the ceremony. I had my Nikon 7200 and took some pix and went to the reception took a few more. The sister of the bride came up to me and said cease and desist, I tried to tell her that what I was doing was to make an album of candids for a gift for the happy couple which I have done many other times. I stopped, didn't want to make the bride unhappy. I even had the grandparents come up to me as ask me to shoot some portraits of them - which I declined to do at that point because I wasn't the "official" photog. It made me feel bad for them later because I never saw the official wedding photogs over on the side of the room where they were sitting away from the noise.
Later the mother of the groom came up to me and explained that the picture statement in the program was done at the photographers insistence because the photographers didn't want their time and photos "devalued" by amateurs at the wedding. THEY are the picture takers and no one else can shoot the wedding? First I've heard of that! I had even been trying to stay out of the pros way so I wouldn't get in their way or ruin their shots! By the way, on the next day there must have been at least 10 postings on Facebook of cell phone vids and photos from the wedding and reception.

Are the pros really that paranoid and insecure about their work AND that amateurs could possibly make their work look bad or not as good? The photogs didn't even have the b...s to ask me themselves?

Yes in the past I have had several couples or families say that the album I put together as a gift was better than the pro BUT I think that because they were family.

Any other experiences or opinions???
I have been taking pictures for 50 years (started ... (show quote)


You are a guest. Be a good guest. Nothing more, nothing less. You are NOT the photographer. Don't be pushy. Respect the wishes of your hosts. Period.

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Aug 28, 2018 02:50:14   #
tiphareth51 Loc: Somewhere near North Pole, Alaska
 
Wow, I have never heard of this before. Were the 'pro's' concerned about others being in the way of their photos? If it was the wishes of the bride as clearly stated, there is nothing to be done except to put your camera away. Your intentions were admirable and I'm sure many wonderful photos were lost due to their short-sightedness. It certainly could have been handled in a better way.

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Aug 28, 2018 05:35:14   #
PhotoNat Loc: Santa Maria, CA
 
I had a couple interesting experiences at my wedding to my ex-husband. A friend of ours from work decided to do a video at our wedding and reception, which he was going to give to us. He was not our official wedding photographer, and we had not asked our wedding photographer to do a video. Another friend of ours was going to also videotape our wedding and reception, but this other friend told her not to bother, as he was going to do the video, so didn't do it. Since he accidentally erased a big part of the video, such that the pool not video we got was part of the reception, I would have really appreciated it had he not taken it upon himself to tell her not to take the video, since then we would have had both to enjoy.

Also innocently, my uncle started to take a couple photos,( not knowing the protocol) and our official photographer stopped him. They were however posed group photos, so I do kind of understand his policy on that.

Yeah, I would not want to be a wedding photographer, too much stress, and possible drama for me. I sure am thankful for those talented photographers who are though.
PhotoNat

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Aug 28, 2018 05:47:03   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
rpavich wrote:
How good or bad they were makes zero difference. The bride requested that nobody take pictures. End of story...done deal. Regardless of your intentions or what you "want," you aren't involved in making the rules.


When did basic respect for wishes get usurped by self gratification of ones one desires?





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Aug 28, 2018 05:54:53   #
Lukabulla
 
I had a situation once where I was Official Photographer at a Wedding after party ..
It was in a Pontins holiday Camp in a set a side function Room ..
Because of this any Tom or dick could pop in uninvited ..

I was shooting away no problem .. then I noticed a Female ' Photographer '
Taking photos of the Bride and groom outside and others in the Hall ..
Apart from this she was giving out her Business Cards !

I went up and asked her if she was a friend of the Happy couple ..
She said she was not but was the official Photographer !
I said I was , she replied ' I'm the other one '.

I did not respond as i needed to confirm it with the Groom and Bride ..
They said they did not know who she was and was just a Passer by .

I was Furious ! I went up to her and called her a liar and told her to F.. Off
And to stay out of my way ..

Unfortunately since the invention of the ' Digital Camera ' everyone and their
Dog are Posing as Photographers ..

So I can understand the official photographer taking this stance ..
A great many have been put out of Business nowadays .

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Aug 28, 2018 05:56:34   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
They specifically said "Not to take cell phone pix"; was this a typo or what?

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Aug 28, 2018 06:06:55   #
hawleyrw Loc: Dayton, OH
 
I've never been told that (and I've photographed a few weddings myself) but I always approach the actual photographer prior to the event and ask permission to take candids, etc with my DSLR. Has worked so far. The main thing is: stay out of their way.

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