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Aug 22, 2018 08:52:43   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Look, for two years now your side has been "We Got Him Now!" and repeatedly you guys have fallen flat on your faces, this will prove to be no different.


Ok.

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Aug 22, 2018 09:00:01   #
McKinneyMike Loc: Texas
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Look, for two years now your side has been "We Got Him Now!" and repeatedly you guys have fallen flat on your faces, this will prove to be no different.


Mueller has been on the job 15 months and now 5 guilty pleas/verdicts in the books so far. Not to dig up the past but how long did the B******i hearings go on and how many guilty plea/verdicts resulted from it?

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Aug 22, 2018 09:06:49   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
Mueller has been on the job 15 months and now 5 guilty pleas/verdicts in the books so far. Not to dig up the past but how long did the B******i hearings go on and how many guilty plea/verdicts resulted from it?


We have only seen the tip of the iceberg of Mueller's investigative results.
Clearly, the investigation is not a "witch hunt".
Trump's history of questionable financial dealings, and the hold that Russia has on him, are stones yet to be turned.

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Aug 22, 2018 09:13:53   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
Trump blabbers on about Manafort, the witch hunt and collusion(no not COLLUSION again!). NOT A WORD ABOUT COHEN!

[NOTE] He was actually just deboarding AF1 before heading to his rally speech tonight.


Michael Cohen hired Lanny Davis, lawyer to the Clintons. It is hard to stop someone for committing suicide if they really want to. Not even the Donald can do that. BTW, it was a great rally, looking forward to my coal stocks coming back.

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Aug 22, 2018 09:15:57   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
We have only seen the tip of the iceberg of Mueller's investigative results.
Clearly, the investigation is not a "witch hunt".
Trump's history of questionable financial dealings, and the hold that Russia has on him, are stones yet to be turned.


Two words, Ken Star...now go hold your breath for another 6 years.

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Aug 22, 2018 09:16:25   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
This is far worse than a "a thorn in Trump's side". He has been identified, under oath, as a co-conspirator in a felony.
Good Lord, "a little sticky"?
There is still a Rule of Law in this twisted country.


Really? What felony is that? When was he under oath?

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Aug 22, 2018 09:16:39   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
idaholover wrote:
looking forward to my coal stocks coming back.


I see you are still living in the filthy past.

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Aug 22, 2018 09:24:11   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Pegasus wrote:
Really? What felony is that? When was he under oath?


No one is under oath when they conspire, and act, to violate finance laws by paying hush money to hookers as a means to possibly alter e******n results. It is a Federal violation of Campaign Finance Laws and is a felony. Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator. He conspired with Cohen while being taped. The tweet jokes this morning are really inappropriate.
You guys are loyal, but amazingly blind.

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Aug 22, 2018 09:24:45   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
Mueller has been on the job 15 months and now 5 guilty pleas/verdicts in the books so far. Not to dig up the past but how long did the B******i hearings go on and how many guilty plea/verdicts resulted from it?


So far none of those convictions have anything to do with Trump and his campaign other than Cohen's yesterday and those will prove to be non-violations of the campaign finance law because the law provides that if a dual reason for the payment exists then it is not a violation, clearly Trump's family is a second reason as compelling as the campaign for that payment being made. Again, much to do about nothing. Good thing for Cohen that he is selling out on Trump rather than Clinton because were it Clinton he would probably show up dead somewhere.

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Aug 22, 2018 09:36:55   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
No one is under oath when they conspire, and act, to violate finance laws by paying hush money to hookers as a means to possibly alter e******n results. It is a Federal violation of Campaign Finance Laws and is a felony. Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator. He conspired with Cohen while being taped. The tweet jokes this morning are really inappropriate.
You guys are loyal, but amazingly blind.


What campaign finance laws were broken?

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Aug 22, 2018 09:39:15   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
So far none of those convictions have anything to do with Trump and his campaign other than Cohen's yesterday and those will prove to be non-violations of the campaign finance law because the law provides that if a dual reason for the payment exists then it is not a violation, clearly Trump's family is a second reason as compelling as the campaign for that payment being made. Again, much to do about nothing. Good thing for Cohen that he is selling out on Trump rather than Clinton because were it Clinton he would probably show up dead somewhere.
So far none of those convictions have anything to ... (show quote)


Cohen pleaded guilty; and implicated the President as a co-conspirator--that ship has sailed.
It takes time, as it SHOULD, to legally demonstrate bad, possibly illegal behavior committed by a sitting president.
Time will tell, but this President has problems that he, and his supporters, should not joke about.

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Aug 22, 2018 09:42:22   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
Trump blabbers on about Manafort, the witch hunt and collusion(no not COLLUSION again!). NOT A WORD ABOUT COHEN!

[NOTE] He was actually just deboarding AF1 before heading to his rally speech tonight.


Would it occur to you to wait for the conclusion of events before mouthing off?

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Aug 22, 2018 09:43:04   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Pegasus wrote:
What campaign finance laws were broken?


Simply put, I will repeat: Paying hush money to hookers to alter e******n results.
Cohen pleaded guilty yesterday--Are you under a rock this morning?

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Aug 22, 2018 09:55:35   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
We have only seen the tip of the iceberg of Mueller's investigative results.
Clearly, the investigation is not a "witch hunt".
Trump's history of questionable financial dealings, and the hold that Russia has on him, are stones yet to be turned.


Actually, I believe that we are near the end of the Mueller probe. Here's my reasoning.

1- Mueller has not found anything to do with Russian collusion. On the other hand we have discovered plenty of evidence that the FBI/DOJ and now Team "Mueller" actively went after candidate and then president Trump and tried to entrap him in such things. They all failed and the investigations are revealing more and more malfeasance from the FBI/DOJ. A great example, Bruce Ohr next week. There has been a slew of firings at the top levels of the FBI and DOJ. 0bama knew about the Russian cyber attacks and prevented people from countering them. Remember what Richard Burr said last week.

2- Mueller has found nothing to support "obstruction of justice." He can try to make a case for the firing of Comey, but as we discover more and more junk about the antics of the FBI under 0bama and then Trump, that seems unlikely. Remember that Trump would put up a brutal defense and stuff would blow back to the 0bama administration. We would find out that 0bama knew about the spying on Trump and did not stop it.

3- All the Muller indictments have been about Russian and a few Americans. The Americans were indicted and some convicted on tax charges and lying to the FBI. The tax charges would not have been prosecuted if the folks had not been associated with Trump. The perjury charges are under intense scrutiny because of the newly-discovered FBI shenanigans. It's going to be hard to convict someone lying to the FBI when the person who reported the lying is Superagent Peter Strzok.

4- The single, solitary charge not related to taxes of perjury is about campaign finance. This charge was thrown in as an afterthought. There was no crime committed; Trump used his own money to pay back his lawyer who paid off nuisance suits. Sorry, but that is not a campaign expense; if Trump really did that, it was to cover his family. Prove that it wasn't. At any rate the sum is minuscule and virtually all campaign finance infractions are dealt with fines. 0bama paid a $375,000 fine for his campaign finance malfeasance.

This is the best that Mueller could do. He is out of time, the population sentiment is against him and the other investigations are proceeding apace and he wants out.

I could be wrong, I've been wrong before. I think Mueller will write is report, try to throw as much dirt on president Trump as he can and then leave.

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Aug 22, 2018 09:57:00   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Simply put, I will repeat: Paying hush money to hookers to alter e******n results.
Cohen pleaded guilty yesterday--Are you under a rock this morning?


Read my post above. It's a bogus charge. Cohen pleaded guilty to something that is not a crime. He had nothing to lose and a lot to gain by doing that.

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