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Aug 18, 2018 15:52:01   #
srt101fan
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Ok. So if I follow the process of choosing all elements of exposure but set my camera to “vivid” or one of those “film modes”, am I still shooting manual?



Yes...

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Aug 18, 2018 16:47:41   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Ok. So if I follow the process of choosing all elements of exposure but set my camera to “vivid” or one of those “film modes”, am I still shooting manual?



This entire subject is getting a little silly but my two cents worth: Yes, because that is the equivalent of choosing what film to use.

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Aug 18, 2018 17:13:31   #
nikon7200
 
A 4, 5 or 6 speed transmission with a clutch!

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Aug 18, 2018 17:15:47   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
CatMarley wrote:
Using a light meter, whether in or off camera or simply using your eyes to "meter" the light do not qualify as auto anything. The meter does nothing for you to automate the process, any more that a tape measure does construction. It is just a measurement.


True

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Aug 18, 2018 17:21:16   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
charlienow wrote:
I am a little confuse...what exactly is manual. Is A priority or S priority manual. Even though you let the camera light meter set the exposure? Or do you have to set everything, including manual focus?


When you set the camera to M you will see through the viewfinder a little scale with a 0 in the middle. As you change the Fstop or point of focus the pointer on the scale will move towards or away from the 0 if it doesn't want to move you can change the ISO higher or lower so that you can get a 'range' available.

deciding whether you want to expose for the light areas is points to the right or expose for the darker areas is the number of points to the left away from the zero.

if you have an electronic viewfinder or live view you can see the effect of these choices on the LED screen. The image will become brighter or darker.

But you need to have the pointer within the scale! Or you will end up with a white pinky image file or a totally black image file.

Now that is the technical stuff that people say you 'must do'. Those that say you must also remember to use F8 or 'sunny 16' had a fixed iso using film speed(ASA) with digital you can up the ISO so that you have the ability to get a correct range in any lens or light.

Auto focus works so that the image is sharp ......but WHERE you focus WILL make the pointer move too...because you are altering the strength and amount of light that enters the sensor.

note....using too high an ISO to silly numbers will increase noise (grainy images)

Try it and see if it makes you 'think' and 'see' about how your image can be made 'better' by using different settings than your camera chooses in auto or apperture /speed priority.

what you MUST do ....is enjoy photography and what you shoot - how you chooses to do that is up to you

have fun

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Aug 18, 2018 17:57:43   #
swartfort Loc: Evansville, IN
 
charlienow wrote:

Not sure why Nikon, Canon and other manufactures would bother to put the various modes on their cameras if full manual mode was the best exposure mode.


I believe that anyone who claims that manual mode is the best exposure setting for every type of photography in every situation, is the most accurate definition of the often referred to "MANUAL SNOB"....

Learn it all, shoot what is best for you in the particular situation to get the shot that you want. THAT my friend is why Canon, Nikon, Sony, et.al. put the various modes on their cameras. So we can have a variety of shooting methods for the variety of shooting situations we find ourselves in. Don't let anybody, or your own lack of knowledge limit your choices, ignore them, learn more for yourself.

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Aug 18, 2018 18:24:56   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
And here starts the slug feast.


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Aug 18, 2018 20:08:17   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
charlienow wrote:
What is manual?

Manual is thing you read to understand manual mode.

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Aug 19, 2018 02:11:10   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
nikon7200 wrote:
A 4, 5 or 6 speed transmission with a clutch!

What about "three on a tree"? 😀

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Aug 19, 2018 04:30:54   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
cameraf4 wrote:
Charlie, you may become more confused. Manual means different things to different folks, as evidenced by Dave's comment. To me, if the word "auto" creeps into your definition, as it did his, then it ain't exactly "manual." If I "shoot manually", then I set the F/stop, the shutter speed, the ISO, the White Balance, the focus of the lens, every variable that will determine the look of the final image. And, yes, if I have to "Fix it in Post", then I don't consider the final image a "manual image."
Charlie, you may become more confused. Manual mean... (show quote)


Wow, the confusion continues. Now you are saying a camera JPEG is not an Automatic feature? Cleared up some water while muddying other.

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Aug 19, 2018 09:19:03   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Fotomacher wrote:
My first SLR was a Pentax KM. It had a “match needle” meter which was seen on the right side of the viewfinder. The exposure was “correct” when the needle was horizontal. The shutter speed and aperture were set manually and the ISO (the known as ASA) was set based on the “speed” of film being used, generally from 25 to 400. Specialty films could be bought with speeds of 800 and 1600. The lens was a 50mm f/2 Pentax Takumar manually focussed and there was a split image focusing screen in the viewfinder to assist.

Today, when I use my D810 on manual, i emulate the above except that I use the green dot to confirm focus because no one makes focusing screen anymore.
My first SLR was a Pentax KM. It had a “match nee... (show quote)


Hey, my first SLR was an Asahi Pentax KM too. Got stolen, damn. Cool, your KM must have been a different variant than mine. Mine did not have a split image screen. I had a Pentax K1000 SE that did. That was so easy to focus. That got jacked the some time the KM did. Also my first lens was a Asahi smc-Pentax-M 50mm f/1.7 lens. Buy the time I got my camera the original -K lenses were already phased out for the more compact -M series. Did you get your stuff in Canada? Perhaps the marketing and products differed slightly?

Yes, my Pentax digital cameras, K-3, K-5, K-20D, all have a light and beep when focus is achieved even when using a vintage manual focus lens too.

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Aug 19, 2018 09:28:21   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Hey, my first SLR was an Asahi Pentax KM too. Got stolen, damn. Cool, your KM must have been a different variant than mine. Mine did not have a split image screen. I had a Pentax K1000 SE that did. That was so easy to focus. That got jacked the some time the KM did. Also my first lens was a Asahi smc-Pentax-M 50mm f/1.7 lens. Buy the time I got my camera the original -K lenses were already phased out for the more compact -M series. Did you get your stuff in Canada? Perhaps the marketing and products differed slightly?

Yes, my Pentax digital cameras, K-3, K-5, K-20D, all have a light and beep when focus is achieved even when using a vintage manual focus lens too.
Hey, my first SLR was an Asahi Pentax KM too. Got... (show quote)

My Nikons have that light and sound as well, but it only seems accurate with normal shooting and not when shooting macro

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Aug 19, 2018 09:31:56   #
BebuLamar
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Hey, my first SLR was an Asahi Pentax KM too. Got stolen, damn. Cool, your KM must have been a different variant than mine. Mine did not have a split image screen. I had a Pentax K1000 SE that did. That was so easy to focus. That got jacked the some time the KM did. Also my first lens was a Asahi smc-Pentax-M 50mm f/1.7 lens. Buy the time I got my camera the original -K lenses were already phased out for the more compact -M series. Did you get your stuff in Canada? Perhaps the marketing and products differed slightly?

Yes, my Pentax digital cameras, K-3, K-5, K-20D, all have a light and beep when focus is achieved even when using a vintage manual focus lens too.
Hey, my first SLR was an Asahi Pentax KM too. Got... (show quote)


I have 2 Pentax KX which I believe having the same screen as the KM which doesn't have the split image but has a small circle of microprism. I don't need neither to focus though.

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Aug 19, 2018 10:03:27   #
Nikon1201
 
Watch utube on camera manual operation ( there probably 50 ) he will have a good handle and then he can practice, practice, practice.

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Aug 19, 2018 11:02:50   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Wow, the confusion continues. Now you are saying a camera JPEG is not an Automatic feature? Cleared up some water while muddying other.


No! It is NOT an automatic feature. It is the equivalent of taking your color film roll down to the drugstore to be processed. The processing can now be done free by your camera, yielding jpegs instead of slides. And like the film, you can opt to process it yourself by shooting raw.

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