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Jul 31, 2018 14:13:57   #
woodfrog Loc: Tennessee
 
I started out shooting RAW+JPEG in order to have a comparison to process by. Over time 90% of the processed RAW files looked better than the SOOC JPEGs. I shoot RAW only now.

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Jul 31, 2018 18:15:55   #
Allen hammer
 
I had been doing all processing including all the items you mention using Corel Paint shop Pro and using it on jpeg from my now gone Rebel 5Ti. Don't understand why so many folks seem to think you can not do any extensive processing with Jpeg files and some app other than ps or lightroom. Guess I am not discriminating enough. Anyway I got a trial of a DxO photo program and it allowed me to recover my Raw pics just fine. Thanks for your comments

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Jul 31, 2018 18:25:05   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
woodfrog wrote:
I started out shooting RAW+JPEG in order to have a comparison to process by. Over time 90% of the processed RAW files looked better than the SOOC JPEGs. I shoot RAW only now.

I shoot and work with RAW, but I keep the JPEG for seeing (In Windows Explorer) what images I want to work on.

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Jul 31, 2018 18:57:33   #
jdubu Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Allen hammer wrote:
I had been doing all processing including all the items you mention using Corel Paint shop Pro and using it on jpeg from my now gone Rebel 5Ti. Don't understand why so many folks seem to think you can not do any extensive processing with Jpeg files and some app other than ps or lightroom. Guess I am not discriminating enough. Anyway I got a trial of a DxO photo program and it allowed me to recover my Raw pics just fine. Thanks for your comments


There are plenty of programs that will extensively edit and process raw and jpeg files, but Photoshop is the standard and has been for many years. I employ a number of programs for my work, but the mainstay for me has always been Photoshop. Other plugins and programs are not without their usefulness, I also use DXO Photolab and Viewpoint, Topaz and Nik suites and they are great.

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Jul 31, 2018 19:04:39   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
Someone said this subject has been beaten to death. There are places for shooting JPG like journalistic photography, sports photography, and snapshots. Photographers who consider themselves professional and fine art shooters mostly shoot RAW. I don't shoot anything JPG because I see the difference in my editing and finished product. The answer to your proposal is this: "Shoot the way that pleases you. You don't have to please anyone else unless they are paying you – then you damn sure ought to shoot RAW.
Allen hammer wrote:
I am all stressed out after learning of the situation with Canon 5D Mark IV and raw files. I was shooting along just fine til I recently bought in to the idea that RAW is the only way to shoot if you are a "serious". Well I am thinking now that maybe it's a bit of hype and that most folks could not tell a raw processed shot from jpeg. I would welcome some discussion on this. Thanks

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Jul 31, 2018 20:17:17   #
Vietnam Vet
 
Make sure your settings are accurate and shoot jpg

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Jul 31, 2018 20:24:02   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Vietnam Vet wrote:
Make sure your settings are accurate and shoot jpg


Works for some images but not for the more challenging ones. But making accurate settings is a good thing in either case. Dynamic range considerations will determine if you can get away with jpeg.

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Jul 31, 2018 22:01:32   #
btbg
 
ppage wrote:
A lot of "serious" photographers shoot jpg, especially journalists and sports pros. They have deadlines to meet and can't be fooling around with editing all their shots before submission. Raw shots are definitely more drab and flat than a jpg, the difference is clear. Raw just includes all the info from the camera instead of a pre-edited, locked and smaller file. There is no conspiracy here, it just gives you a lot more material to edit from. Raw files are preferred by those that are serious about post-processing. If that is not your thing, shoot jpg. No stress necessary.
A lot of "serious" photographers shoot j... (show quote)


Almost all the sports pros I know shoot RAW, including myself. It's a myth that journalists and sports photographers all shoot JPEG. It depends on who you are shooting for and what rules they have. Reuters requires JPEG most others don't. The only reason I ever produce a JPEG is either because I have to e-mail the photo and a tiff file is too large, or because we need the jpeg for web. Otherwise it's all RAW files converted to Tiff for printing.

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Jul 31, 2018 22:34:00   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Gene51 wrote:
Works for some images but not for the more challenging ones. But making accurate settings is a good thing in either case. Dynamic range considerations will determine if you can get away with jpeg.



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Jul 31, 2018 22:48:49   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Allen hammer wrote:
I had been doing all processing including all the items you mention using Corel Paint shop Pro and using it on jpeg from my now gone Rebel 5Ti. Don't understand why so many folks seem to think you can not do any extensive processing with Jpeg files and some app other than ps or lightroom. Guess I am not discriminating enough. Anyway I got a trial of a DxO photo program and it allowed me to recover my Raw pics just fine. Thanks for your comments


Use "quote reply" so we know what you are replying to..

There are things you cannot do when the originals are jpeg, or at least not as well as working with RAW. RAW has a lot more leeway and when imported into Light Room you do not modify or destroy the original. It keeps a file of changes and every time you open the image it calls up a copy of the original and applies the latest set of changes. Refered to as "non destructive" processing.

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Jul 31, 2018 22:55:43   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Raw is hyped a lot around here, in some cases by folks who obviously, from their work, don't really know how to take advantage of it.

However, it is not all hype. True photographic artists can do wonders with raw files that can't be done with JPG. We have a number of those folks here also.

I am not an artist. In fact if you listen to some of the RAW fanatics I'm not a real photographer.
I shoot both RAW and JPG and 99% of what I post online are pure JPG. Occasionally I need to use the RAW. I am very familiar with working in RAW as I shot raw exclusively for many years. I also find RAW can help with larger prints.

I recommend that folks shoot both. Use the JPG as long as you are getting good results. Dabble with RAW and see what develops. I like having a HEMI V8 under the hood of my JEEP. Most of the time I don't need half the power it is capable of producing. But when I need it, or just want to play, it's nice to know it is there.

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Jul 31, 2018 22:59:43   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Allen hammer wrote:
I had been doing all processing including all the items you mention using Corel Paint shop Pro and using it on jpeg from my now gone Rebel 5Ti. Don't understand why so many folks seem to think you can not do any extensive processing with Jpeg files and some app other than ps or lightroom. Guess I am not discriminating enough. Anyway I got a trial of a DxO photo program and it allowed me to recover my Raw pics just fine. Thanks for your comments


You should re read what those people are saying about editing JPEGs. They are not saying what you think they are saying. Do you really think that millions of very talented photographers are misinformed and you know something they don’t? I hope that is not what you are trying to say. But like many replies suggested, follow what ever works for you. Nobody really cares, really.

https://www.markmetternich.com - do you think he shoots jpeg files?

http://ljhollowayphotography.com - how about her?

Like almost everyone else, I also don’t care what format one shoots. Much more interested in the final product. I want to see a picture that makes me say WOW!!!

I would hope that that is what most of us are after. Not fixating on technical bs.

But, and it is a very big BUT, I will never ever understand the logic behind shooting JPEGs IF you are going to move the sliders around in PP. It just doesn’t make any sense.

A good cook buys raw meat to prepare, isn’t that right?

What ever you do, good luck to you and produce quality stuff any way that works for you. Just try to remember that there is always a very good reason why the majority does things a certain way in photography. Even if you don’t understand it yet. With time and experience, you will.

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Jul 31, 2018 23:28:09   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
If you use LR for editing, it will strongly resist overwriting an original jpg. There may be a way to do it but I have not done the experiment.
Photoshop, on the other hand, will overwrite an original jpg fairly easily.
The only other programs I've used for editing are IrfanView and FastStone. They will tell you that you are about to overwrite a jpg but they will let you do it.


I'm curious what you mean when you say, "LR for editing, it will strongly resist overwriting an original jpg." That phrase makes no sense to me as a long-time LR user who had edited RAW and JPEG many hundreds and/or thousands of times. LR never "overwrites" anything, it just layers meta data over the top and that metadata is only applied upon export.

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Jul 31, 2018 23:56:50   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
tdekany wrote:
You should re read what those people are saying about editing JPEGs. They are not saying what you think they are saying. Do you really think that millions of very talented photographers are misinformed and you know something they don’t? I hope that is not what you are trying to say. But like many replies suggested, follow what ever works for you. Nobody really cares, really.

https://www.markmetternich.com - do you think he shoots jpeg files?

http://ljhollowayphotography.com - how about her?

Like almost everyone else, I also don’t care what format one shoots. Much more interested in the final product. I want to see a picture that makes me say WOW!!!

I would hope that that is what most of us are after. Not fixating on technical bs.

But, and it is a very big BUT, I will never ever understand the logic behind shooting JPEGs IF you are going to move the sliders around in PP. It just doesn’t make any sense.

A good cook buys raw meat to prepare, isn’t that right?

What ever you do, good luck to you and produce quality stuff any way that works for you. Just try to remember that there is always a very good reason why the majority does things a certain way in photography. Even if you don’t understand it yet. With time and experience, you will.
You should re read what those people are saying ab... (show quote)


My mother-in-law would never buy anything but cooked meat to serve . . . tells you what kind of cook she is (or isn't). . .

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Aug 1, 2018 00:40:50   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Gene51 wrote:
My mother-in-law would never buy anything but cooked meat to serve . . . tells you what kind of cook she is (or isn't). . .


Lol, it sure does!!

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