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Jul 26, 2018 19:23:14   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I think it's smart to go straight for full frame and not even make any APS-C. APS-C has caused a lot of confusion for many people about the crop factor. Also I don't think Sony is doing as well in the A6xxx series as compared to the A7 series. To make it simple any Z mount lenses will work on any Z cameras.

As long as the system is properly designed, any Z-mount lens could work on any Z-mount camera, regardless of how large the camera's sensor is.

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Jul 26, 2018 19:31:13   #
BebuLamar
 
rehess wrote:
As long as the system is properly designed, any Z-mount lens could work on any Z-mount camera, regardless of how large the camera's sensor is.


So all the lenses have to be designed to cover the largest sensor size? If so it's a lot of waste when using for the smaller sensor.

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Jul 26, 2018 19:35:00   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Ronald540 wrote:
Here is a thought about the back order of 850, hum is that because they have been running the factory production for the mirrorless models.
A side notes the x mount is also the right diameter for medium format. Hum food for thought.
Some clever engineers measured the diameter of the lens mount from the video and compared against the Fuji medium format.
I think they have something in mind to future proof the camera with the x mount.
Take this with a few grains of salt.
From an engineering stand point they said more in the videos than meets the eye.
They are starting with 2 models and I think they are going to price one to compete with the Sony 7 mark 2 somewhere in the 1900.00 us dollar range.
Anyone want to bet on this.

Cheers ron



Here is a thought about the back order of 850, hum... (show quote)


Fuji and Nikon have collaborated on camera models, backs, and lenses in the past, the future will be interesting.

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Jul 26, 2018 19:54:06   #
Ronald540 Loc: Sandy Utah
 
BebuLamar wrote:
So all the lenses have to be designed to cover the largest sensor size? If so it's a lot of waste when using for the smaller sensor.


I was speculating that the z mount flange opening is 67 mm if that Is proved to be true then it will cover not only full frame 35 mm size but also a medium format sensor in the same body.

that is called future proofing.
Cheers ron



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Jul 26, 2018 19:59:11   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
PAR4DCR wrote:
Not any meat in that announcement, only that it is coming. What MP, frames per second, etc. Don't get me wrong, I shoot with Nikon gear and have for many years, but this is a typical "Tease" press release that all the camera makers use.

Don


Nikon has always played the tease game. It may discourage folks from buying a Sony or Canon, and wait for Nikon to caugh up a new one, but I kind of doubt it. It probably just hurts their own sales.

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Jul 26, 2018 19:59:39   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
burkphoto wrote:
Nikon has always played the tease game. It may discourage folks from buying a Sony or Canon, and wait for Nikon to cough up a new one, but I kind of doubt it. It probably just hurts their own sales.

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Jul 26, 2018 20:16:09   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
bwana wrote:
I guess it is better late than never BUT they do have three generations of other competitors to out-compete! Not an easy job... bwa


Panasonic has launched five flagship GH cameras (GH1, GH2, GH3, GH4, GH5) plus a special GH5s for filmmakers, AND a new G9 pro stills camera. Sony, Olympus, and Fujifilm are also pretty far down the mirrorless trail.

But bring it on... the more, the merrier.

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Jul 26, 2018 21:42:07   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
burkphoto wrote:
Good for them. About a decade late to the party, but still, they’re moving forward.


31 years late to the party to be exact ! ......

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Jul 26, 2018 21:49:01   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
repleo wrote:
Nikon is putting lot of emphasis on the new mount as the path to a 'new dimension in optical performance'. My very limited understanding is that the new mount will be much wider than heretofore which would allow them to develop faster lenses than can be achieved with Sony's E-mount. I'm also wondering if the long term strategy might be to develop a larger sensor or medium format camera that would be compatible with the new mount lenses the same as Sony did with the APS-C and FF E-mount?? All sounds very expensive - and heavy.
Nikon is putting lot of emphasis on the new mount... (show quote)


Yes, Sony fumbled the ball with the small size of it's E mount ! - and Nikon have been crippled by the size of theirs also - for a L-O-N-G time.

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Jul 26, 2018 21:51:59   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
imagemeister wrote:
31 years late to the party to be exact ! ......

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That would date back to the advent of Canon’s EF mount, if I recall...

I was referring to the dawn of mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras. But you make a good point!

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Jul 26, 2018 21:57:29   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
burkphoto wrote:
That would date back to the advent of Canon’s EF mount, if I recall...

I was referring to the dawn of mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras. But you make a good point!


I was wondering if anyone would do the math !

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Jul 26, 2018 21:58:29   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Nikon has always played the tease game. It may discourage folks from buying a Sony or Canon, and wait for Nikon to caugh up a new one, but I kind of doubt it. It probably just hurts their own sales.

My wife reminded me at dinner how IBM used to play that game .... if a lesser rival {i.e., anyone else} would announce a product, IBM would make a similar announcement - regardless whether they actually had a project going - knowing that "vaporware" would "freeze" decision-making/

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Jul 26, 2018 22:02:13   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
So all the lenses have to be designed to cover the largest sensor size? If so it's a lot of waste when using for the smaller sensor.

Not really. Lens catalogs get too complicated. There is nothing wrong with using "FX" glass on "DX" cameras. I have a lot of old "35mm" K-mount lenses I use on my modern APS-C K-30.

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Jul 26, 2018 22:51:29   #
ChuckMc Loc: Prescott, AZ
 
But guys. It certainly will produce the best quality pictures ever produced and cost a penitence. It will... won't it? Isn't that the objective of revolutionizing photography? WHAT?

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Jul 27, 2018 00:36:44   #
hookedupin2005 Loc: Northwestern New Mexico
 
jburlinson wrote:
Interesting that Nikon is going straight for the full frame market, bypassing, at least for the time being, mirrorless APS-C. Perhaps they're just going to cede APS mirrorless to Canon, Fuji & Sony. That might be smart.

What I hope is that Nikon's new z-mount (or whatever) lenses will really sparkle and shine for the full-frame system -- the way Olympus/Panasonic lenses do for MFT. Not like Canon with the "just OK" lenses for the M series. It took Sony quite a while to come up with really sterling lenses for their mirrorless full-frame; and, my gosh, what prices they have!
Interesting that Nikon is going straight for the f... (show quote)


I'm sure you'll "my gosh" the lens prices on the Nikon, also.

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