Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register ☰
Main Photography Discussion
Kaesemann Circular Polarizer vs. Nikon (or should I just go with Hoya?)
Page <prev 2 of 4 next> last>>
Jun 24, 2018 10:01:03   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
kb6kgx wrote:
I’m looking for a CP for my Sigma 17-50, which takes a 77mm filter. It’s been recommended, here in UHH, that the Kaesemann filters are very good. Not inexpensive, but not too much, either.

It’s also been recommended to just go with the Nikon-branded filters. Why put anything else on a Nikon lens, some commenters have said.

I wouldn’t have a real problem with the Nikon filters, as I’ve seen only one in each filter size, but with the Kaesemann filters, there appears to be several versions, covering a wide price range. But I don’t know why I would want THIS one as opposed to THAT one, what the differences are, etc.

One negative I’ve heard about the Nikon CP is that because it’s such a thin filter, that it’s hard to get a good grip on it for removal purposes. You think you’re turning the filter, but you’re just turning the moveable part of it.

So, recommendations on which CP to buy?
I’m looking for a CP for my Sigma 17-50, which tak... (show quote)

Any one is great quality. I use B+W I also attach a wide metal lens hood that allows me to easier rotate the CP and not fumble around trying get a grip on the outer ring.

Reply
Jun 24, 2018 10:16:27   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
kb6kgx wrote:
I’m looking for a CP for my Sigma 17-50, which takes a 77mm filter. It’s been recommended, here in UHH, that the Kaesemann filters are very good. Not inexpensive, but not too much, either.

It’s also been recommended to just go with the Nikon-branded filters. Why put anything else on a Nikon lens, some commenters have said.

I wouldn’t have a real problem with the Nikon filters, as I’ve seen only one in each filter size, but with the Kaesemann filters, there appears to be several versions, covering a wide price range. But I don’t know why I would want THIS one as opposed to THAT one, what the differences are, etc.

One negative I’ve heard about the Nikon CP is that because it’s such a thin filter, that it’s hard to get a good grip on it for removal purposes. You think you’re turning the filter, but you’re just turning the moveable part of it.

So, recommendations on which CP to buy?
I’m looking for a CP for my Sigma 17-50, which tak... (show quote)


I have both Nikon and high end B+W and Hoya filters for my Nikons. They are all good filters. I would suggest you try the Kaesemann filters if they are of similar quality to B+W.

Reply
Jun 24, 2018 10:20:39   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
kb6kgx wrote:
So I left out a letter!!!! You knew what I meant!!!

Yes, I just need a CPL. I already have "clear protection filters" for my two zoom lenses, one being a Tiffen, the other being some no-name from Adorama. Thinking of getting better ones for them, too.


Once again, cheap "Daylight" or U/V filters do not have the optical coatings that can cause distortion. Breakthrough's have a coating that will prevent any chromatic aberrations.

Reply
 
 
Jun 24, 2018 11:01:26   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
kb6kgx wrote:
..... with the Kaesemann filters, there appears to be several versions, covering a wide price range. But I don’t know why I would want THIS one as opposed to THAT one, what the differences are, etc.



You will find detailed explanation of the different versions of B+W Kaesemann CP filters here: https://www.schneideroptics.com/Ecommerce/CatalogSubCategoryDisplay.aspx?CID=530

I have B+W Kaesemann and Breakthrough Photography X4 CP's. I find the BT easier to use. It has a knurled rim which makes it easier to rotate with a lens hood on. I usually have to remove the hood to adjust the B+W. All of my filters were B+W until I got my first BT. Now I buy BT if they have what I'm looking for.

However for a wide angle zoom, you may need a slimline mount. B+W has several slimline mounts, but they are pretty expensive and may be more fragile. The B+W slimline mounts do not have an external thread so you won't be able to add another filter over it (I don't know why you would want to anyway). Also, they may not accept a lenscap (check - I don't know the answer to that).

Reply
Jun 24, 2018 23:06:21   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
JD750 wrote:
But if all you want is a CPL for a favorite lens, then a "filter system" is definitely overkill. Go with a screw on type.


No, no need for a “filter system”. I really only have need for a polarizer, on occasion.

I’ve seen photos that people used ND filters for, but I don’t have the patience (or the time/opportunity, now) to futz with those. And don’t polarizers, to some extent, do what an ND filter does?

Reply
Jun 24, 2018 23:07:20   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
repleo wrote:
You will find detailed explanation of the different versions of B+W Kaesemann CP filters here: https://www.schneideroptics.com/Ecommerce/CatalogSubCategoryDisplay.aspx?CID=530

I have B+W Kaesemann and Breakthrough Photography X4 CP's. I find the BT easier to use. It has a knurled rim which makes it easier to rotate with a lens hood on. I usually have to remove the hood to adjust the B+W. All of my filters were B+W until I got my first BT. Now I buy BT if they have what I'm looking for.

However for a wide angle zoom, you may need a slimline mount. B+W has several slimline mounts, but they are pretty expensive and may be more fragile. The B+W slimline mounts do not have an external thread so you won't be able to add another filter over it (I don't know why you would want to anyway). Also, they may not accept a lenscap (check - I don't know the answer to that).
You will find detailed explanation of the differen... (show quote)


The lens I would be using it for is a Sigma 17-50.

Reply
Jun 24, 2018 23:08:51   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Once again, cheap "Daylight" or U/V filters do not have the optical coatings that can cause distortion. Breakthrough's have a coating that will prevent any chromatic aberrations.


On my 50mm f1.8D and 105mm f2.5AI-S, I have Nikon “NC” filters on those, but they’re 52mm filters, so not terribly pricey. The 17-50 takes a 77mm filter. That’s getting up there.

Reply
 
 
Jun 25, 2018 06:01:21   #
Wanderer2 Loc: Colorado Rocky Mountains
 
kb6kgx wrote:
I’m looking for a CP for my Sigma 17-50, which takes a 77mm filter. It’s been recommended, here in UHH, that the Kaesemann filters are very good. Not inexpensive, but not too much, either.

It’s also been recommended to just go with the Nikon-branded filters. Why put anything else on a Nikon lens, some commenters have said.

I wouldn’t have a real problem with the Nikon filters, as I’ve seen only one in each filter size, but with the Kaesemann filters, there appears to be several versions, covering a wide price range. But I don’t know why I would want THIS one as opposed to THAT one, what the differences are, etc.

One negative I’ve heard about the Nikon CP is that because it’s such a thin filter, that it’s hard to get a good grip on it for removal purposes. You think you’re turning the filter, but you’re just turning the moveable part of it.

So, recommendations on which CP to buy?
I’m looking for a CP for my Sigma 17-50, which tak... (show quote)


The review linked below might be very helpful to you:

https://www.lenstip.com/139.1-article-Polarizing_filters_test_2015.html

Top rated are Hoya, B+w, and Marumi. You won't go wrong with the top of the line model of any of these.

Reply
Jun 25, 2018 06:56:51   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
kb6kgx wrote:
I’m looking for a CP for my Sigma 17-50, which takes a 77mm filter. It’s been recommended, here in UHH, that the Kaesemann filters are very good. Not inexpensive, but not too much, either.

It’s also been recommended to just go with the Nikon-branded filters. Why put anything else on a Nikon lens, some commenters have said.

I wouldn’t have a real problem with the Nikon filters, as I’ve seen only one in each filter size, but with the Kaesemann filters, there appears to be several versions, covering a wide price range. But I don’t know why I would want THIS one as opposed to THAT one, what the differences are, etc.

One negative I’ve heard about the Nikon CP is that because it’s such a thin filter, that it’s hard to get a good grip on it for removal purposes. You think you’re turning the filter, but you’re just turning the moveable part of it.

So, recommendations on which CP to buy?
I’m looking for a CP for my Sigma 17-50, which tak... (show quote)


You might find something useful here. I use Marumi.

https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2017/09/my-not-nearly-complete-but-rather-entertaining-circular-polarizer-filter-article/
http://www.lenstip.com/139.25-article-Polarizing_filters_test_2015_Results_and_summary.html
http://www.techradar.com/how-to/photography-video-capture/cameras/best-circular-polarizer-filter-5-top-models-tested-and-rated-1320842
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Circular-Polarizer-Filters.aspx
http://www.lenstip.com/index.php?art=139

http://www.lenstip.com/115.1-article-Polarizing_filters_test.html
http://www.lenstip.com/115.4-article-Polarizing_filters_test_Results_and_summary.html
http://nikonrumors.com/2014/07/26/how-to-use-a-polarizing-filter.aspx/

Reply
Jun 25, 2018 07:21:47   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
kb6kgx wrote:



One negative I’ve heard about the Nikon CP is that because it’s such a thin filter, that it’s hard to get a good grip on it for removal purposes. You think you’re turning the filter, but you’re just turning the moveable part of it.



That negative probably came from someone not using it on a wide angle lens. You want thin to avoid vignetting. I have Nikon, Hoya & B+W . They are all quality filters.

You gain nothing by matching the brand of filter to the brand of lens unless you are such a fan of the brand it makes you feel good.

--

Reply
Jun 25, 2018 07:27:27   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I use old Tiffen polarizer filters. No issues.

Reply
 
 
Jun 25, 2018 07:29:56   #
BebuLamar
 
JD750 wrote:
Nikon makes filers? Huh.

Personally I like the B+W brand for screw on filters (sometimes denoted BW but not the same as B&W types). Not exactly cheap. Good optical quality, and good mechanical quality too.

For a square filter system, there are more choices and new competitors have entered the arena. So if you want a square filter system you will need to do some research. This will ultimately cost more than a CPL but it will accommodate other types of filters, ND, GND, Color, etc, and could be cheaper than buying a set of filters for each lens in the bag.

But if all you want is a CPL for a favorite lens, then a "filter system" is definitely overkill. Go with a screw on type.
Nikon makes filers? Huh. br br Personally I lik... (show quote)


Don't know if they make filters but I used Nikon filters in the 70's.

Reply
Jun 25, 2018 07:30:25   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
My vote is for the B+W Kaesemann Nano coated CP.
--Bob

kb6kgx wrote:
I’m looking for a CP for my Sigma 17-50, which takes a 77mm filter. It’s been recommended, here in UHH, that the Kaesemann filters are very good. Not inexpensive, but not too much, either.

It’s also been recommended to just go with the Nikon-branded filters. Why put anything else on a Nikon lens, some commenters have said.

I wouldn’t have a real problem with the Nikon filters, as I’ve seen only one in each filter size, but with the Kaesemann filters, there appears to be several versions, covering a wide price range. But I don’t know why I would want THIS one as opposed to THAT one, what the differences are, etc.

One negative I’ve heard about the Nikon CP is that because it’s such a thin filter, that it’s hard to get a good grip on it for removal purposes. You think you’re turning the filter, but you’re just turning the moveable part of it.

So, recommendations on which CP to buy?
I’m looking for a CP for my Sigma 17-50, which tak... (show quote)

Reply
Jun 25, 2018 07:48:59   #
11bravo
 
I like the Hoya CPL HD3, though I've got a smaller lens. Use an HD3 UV for lens protection. In my experience, the HD3's are easier to clean and less prone to smudges (I try not to finger the lens, but seems there's a direct correlation between age and misplaced finger, with me anyway. A casual touch does not leave a smudge with the HD3's).

Reply
Jun 25, 2018 07:59:36   #
ggenova64
 
I would go with B&W.

Reply
Page <prev 2 of 4 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main Photography Discussion
Home | Latest Digest | Back to Top | All Sections
Contact us | Privacy policy | Terms of use | DMCA
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.