Kaesemann Circular Polarizer vs. Nikon (or should I just go with Hoya?)
Jun 24, 2018 01:12:29 #
kb6kgx
Loc: Simi Valley, CA
I’m looking for a CP for my Sigma 17-50, which takes a 77mm filter. It’s been recommended, here in UHH, that the Kaesemann filters are very good. Not inexpensive, but not too much, either.
It’s also been recommended to just go with the Nikon-branded filters. Why put anything else on a Nikon lens, some commenters have said.
I wouldn’t have a real problem with the Nikon filters, as I’ve seen only one in each filter size, but with the Kaesemann filters, there appears to be several versions, covering a wide price range. But I don’t know why I would want THIS one as opposed to THAT one, what the differences are, etc.
One negative I’ve heard about the Nikon CP is that because it’s such a thin filter, that it’s hard to get a good grip on it for removal purposes. You think you’re turning the filter, but you’re just turning the moveable part of it.
So, recommendations on which CP to buy?
It’s also been recommended to just go with the Nikon-branded filters. Why put anything else on a Nikon lens, some commenters have said.
I wouldn’t have a real problem with the Nikon filters, as I’ve seen only one in each filter size, but with the Kaesemann filters, there appears to be several versions, covering a wide price range. But I don’t know why I would want THIS one as opposed to THAT one, what the differences are, etc.
One negative I’ve heard about the Nikon CP is that because it’s such a thin filter, that it’s hard to get a good grip on it for removal purposes. You think you’re turning the filter, but you’re just turning the moveable part of it.
So, recommendations on which CP to buy?
Jun 24, 2018 01:18:14 #
Kassermann's are B+W, and for one with an optical coating you are paying $145 at Amazon. For that, I would go with Breakthrough Photography's CPL for $149 with a 30 year warranty.
Jun 24, 2018 01:21:19 #
kb6kgx
Loc: Simi Valley, CA
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Kassermann's are B+W, and for one with an optical coating you are paying $145 at Amazon. For that, I would go with Breakthrough Photography's CPL for $149 with a 30 year warranty.
30 years? I just turned 60. I doubt that I’ll still be lugging around a camera when I’m 90! But… you never know! Yes, I saw that they are B+W. I’m not familiar with Breakthrough, though I’ve seen their brand recommended in UHH, as well.
My main question, was regarding the several different versions. Which one do I want, which do I NOT want, and why.
Jun 24, 2018 02:59:09 #
I wouldn't buy the Nikon branded one, you will be paying extra just for the name.
Jun 24, 2018 03:18:28 #
kb6kgx wrote:
I’m looking for a CP for my Sigma 17-50, which tak... (show quote)
Nikon makes filers? Huh.
Personally I like the B+W brand for screw on filters (sometimes denoted BW but not the same as B&W types). Not exactly cheap. Good optical quality, and good mechanical quality too.
For a square filter system, there are more choices and new competitors have entered the arena. So if you want a square filter system you will need to do some research. This will ultimately cost more than a CPL but it will accommodate other types of filters, ND, GND, Color, etc, and could be cheaper than buying a set of filters for each lens in the bag.
But if all you want is a CPL for a favorite lens, then a "filter system" is definitely overkill. Go with a screw on type.
Jun 24, 2018 03:25:32 #
kb6kgx
Loc: Simi Valley, CA
JD750 wrote:
Nikon makes filers? Huh.
So I left out a letter!!!! You knew what I meant!!!
Yes, I just need a CPL. I already have "clear protection filters" for my two zoom lenses, one being a Tiffen, the other being some no-name from Adorama. Thinking of getting better ones for them, too.
Jun 24, 2018 03:34:40 #
If you have good glass, why place an inferior filter in front of that glass?
Lee Filters 0f Masters of Light.
http://www.leefilters.com/index.php/camera
Lee Filters 0f Masters of Light.
http://www.leefilters.com/index.php/camera
Jun 24, 2018 04:09:41 #
kb6kgx wrote:
So I left out a letter!!!! You knew what I meant!!!
Yes, I just need a CPL. I already have "clear protection filters" for my two zoom lenses, one being a Tiffen, the other being some no-name from Adorama. Thinking of getting better ones for them, too.
Yes, I just need a CPL. I already have "clear protection filters" for my two zoom lenses, one being a Tiffen, the other being some no-name from Adorama. Thinking of getting better ones for them, too.
Re the other filters. I have had color cast issues with Tiffen GNDs, but I would hope they could manuf clear filters correctly.
The bottom line is anything you put in front of your lens will degrade the incoming light. How much depends on the quality of the glass you just stuck in front of the lens. You can read reviews to glean information but the only way to know for sure is to buy the damn thing and then take some test shots with and without it. Then you will know the difference. (Close a company has a return policy that allows returns for XX days, if you are dissatisfied with the results).
Jun 24, 2018 05:24:48 #
kb6kgx wrote:
I’m looking for a CP for my Sigma 17-50, which tak... (show quote)
I use the better (More expensive) Hoya CPL and others and they are very good. I recommend them as I got advice here and other sites they are very good and for me they have turned out to be excellent.
Jun 24, 2018 06:57:17 #
I have a Nikon 67mm circular polarizer. It's an outstanding quality filter. I found out about them when I was reading a review by Ken Rockwell. He praises Hoya and Nikon polarizers.
Jun 24, 2018 07:03:35 #
I don't know what Breakthroughs warranty covers, but I broke one days after direct purchase from them. I wrote the Pres (and owner) and asked what the policy is, even if they would just sell me another at a discount if not warrantied. No answer ever. No customer service. I will NEVER buy another of that brand. Just my opinion, and experience.
Jun 24, 2018 07:40:40 #
Jun 24, 2018 08:19:43 #
grandpaw wrote:
I have never had much luck using a polarizing filter on a wide angle lens.
That's the main reason I rarely use wide angle lenses.
Jun 24, 2018 08:23:49 #
grandpaw wrote:
I have never had much luck using a polarizing filter on a wide angle lens.
It is different on WA lenses.
I have had mixed results when I was lazy but with sky pay attention to the sun angle and that makes a big difference. No sky should be no problem rally.
Don't give up with WA just more effort and trial and error.
Jun 24, 2018 08:24:50 #
I have used B+W and Breakthrough CP's with good results. My current favorite is the Breakthrough. I also have Breakthrough and Lee in neutral density and it is my experience that the Breakthrough has less color cast than the Lee.
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