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wapiti Loc: round rock, texas

mborn wrote:

I use LR Classic CC for initial processing and finish up in PS CC. At $10/ mo a bargain

HardwareGuy

You asked about LR and Photoshop, so pardon me since I do not intend to hijack the thread, or to be a "rebel", but I almost bowed to the forever monthly payment plan myself.
Seems like "EVERYONE" uses LR, so I must too.
Decided to buck the system and go with Corel PaintShop Pro 2018 whose image management system I find vastly superior to LR, due to its intuitiveness. Then, I added Luminar for those tweaks that could be handled with a preset. So far, so good. And I pay for the software once. Yeah, it puts me out of the loop with the mainstream, but I've always tended to be that way anyway.

Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY

Mike Holmes wrote:

Sorry about the spelling!!! Engineers are required to be poor spellers.

I too am an inginear (which spelling check changed to incinerator). Profound?

Skiextreme2 Loc: Northwest MA

garygrafic wrote:

Let's clear the air...........If you own a graphics studio PS is an absolute must. NO ifs ands or buts, period! If you're a PHOTOGRAPHER, LR is the way to go. Do not call yourself a photographer if you're good at putting a line of type around a beer bottle. You're brilliant at graphics, but perhaps not photography. Photoshop is just too, too ,much, stuff a photographer will never use. For straight photography, LR is the way to go.

I learned post processing photos in Photoshop because I don't think Light Room was even around when I started photographing. Light Room is a great program but so is Photoshop. For the $9.99 package, get both, check out video tutorials and experiment with both to see which you prefer or if you prefer both.

TheDman Loc: USA

garygrafic wrote:

Let's clear the air...........If you own a graphics studio PS is an absolute must. NO ifs ands or buts, period! If you're a PHOTOGRAPHER, LR is the way to go. Do not call yourself a photographer if you're good at putting a line of type around a beer bottle. You're brilliant at graphics, but perhaps not photography. Photoshop is just too, too ,much, stuff a photographer will never use. For straight photography, LR is the way to go.

LOL!

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

Hope it is not too late. Usually topics get ignored by page two.

There is no longer a "Lightroom". Worse, there was a marketing game change last year.

There is now "Lightroom Classic CC" and "Lightroom CC". And, you can still buy a perpetual license Lightroom 6 and update it to Lightroom 6.14

There are now two $10/month plans. One has BOTH Lightrooms and Photoshop. The other has just ONE Lightroom CC, no Photoshop, no Lightroom Classic CC and lots of cloud storage.

Be sure you get the one you want.

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

Mike Holmes wrote:

I just looked at light room/Photoshop and there are two options for $9.95/mo. One you get lightroom and photoshop with 20gb of storage and the other you just get lightroom with 1tb of storage. I am an armature and new to digital photograph and interested in wildlife and landscape photography. I am not interested in abstract photo art. Would I be better of sticking with lightroom and getting the extra storage?

What do you need the storage for? I'm happy with just Ps CS6.

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

Mike Holmes wrote:

Sorry about the spelling!!! Engineers are required to be poor spellers.

LOL. Biologists can spell as long as it is in Latin.

lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA

robertjerl wrote:

Well, you should certainly know what to do with an armature.

Sort of like Doctors are required to have such poor handwriting that it looks like a drunk chicken was scratching on the paper.

How about a stator?

throughrhettseyes Loc: Rowlett, TX

Lightroom is a great program to organize your photos. Plus it is a great way to process your RAW photos. RAW is like exposed film negatives that need to be processed to JPEG before you show your photos to anyone. I used it for 90% of my processing. I use Photoshop to do the more intricate processing. As far as cloud storage I don't trust it. I have seen too many of these supposed clouds close down and disappear with your pics. Beside you never know who is looking or using your files. Keep you pics on an external Hard Drive for your own safety and privacy.

Mike Holmes Loc: The Villages Fl

Thanks for your reply. I think I will opt for the photoshop/lightroom option with 20GB of cloud storage. I do not think I will use any cloud storage just use my 4TB external drive storage and probable not use photoshop eaither, but nice to have. Thanks for all of the photographic input. Not so interested in the English lessons.

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

Mike Holmes wrote:

Sorry about the spelling!!! Engineers are required to be poor spellers.

I couldnt agreee with that any moore!

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

For $ 10, you just can't beat the Photography plan. On-line storage is of no interest to me as I have in excess of 100TB locally!

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

There's a big difference in these 2 plans. The Photographers plan includes Photoshop and Lightroom Classic CC. The Lightroom CC plan plus the 1 TB of space has Lightroom CC which is NOT the same as Lightroom Classic CC. Lightroom CC is in its first production and is full of bugs. It's basically for those that want mobility of editing and isn't nearly as robust as the Classic version. Unless you are a blogger or big into social media and like to edit your images (mostly cell phone images) before you post them, don't buy the Lightroom CC with 1TB of storage package.

Mike Holmes wrote:

I just looked at light room/Photoshop and there are two options for $9.95/mo. One you get lightroom and photoshop with 20gb of storage and the other you just get lightroom with 1tb of storage. I am an armature and new to digital photograph and interested in wildlife and landscape photography. I am not interested in abstract photo art. Would I be better of sticking with lightroom and getting the extra storage?

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PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA

garygrafic wrote:

Let's clear the air...........If you own a graphics studio PS is an absolute must. NO ifs ands or buts, period! If you're a PHOTOGRAPHER, LR is the way to go. Do not call yourself a photographer if you're good at putting a line of type around a beer bottle. You're brilliant at graphics, but perhaps not photography. Photoshop is just too, too ,much, stuff a photographer will never use. For straight photography, LR is the way to go.

Graphics and photography are two completely different animals and graphics can often incorporate photography. In your example of "a line of type around a beer bottle", the beer bottle is still a photograph and must look good.

As far as needing Photoshop, it all depends on how and what you shoot. If you do any compositing at all because of large dynamic ranges in your 'normal' shoots, layers is the only way to get things 'perfect' - and that means Photoshop. I think a better way to look at it is are you after the perfect shot - for a customer/client - or are you looking more to document and enhance. Documenting with enhancement is a Lightroom specialty. Doing any kind of focus stacking ? Can't do it in native Lightroom. These are photography items and not graphics.

While Photoshop has graphical tools, I would say it is extremely critical when you need 'perfection' according to your vision. For example, when shooting automobiles it is very difficult to get exactly what I want without Photoshop. With all the angles and reflective surfaces, getting things right is difficult. Getting them perfect is nearly impossible without photoshop. I don't make my living doing product or automobile photography but when I shoot objects and cars, Photoshop allows me to take my photography to the next level. (and I have never put text into my photos !).