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May 19, 2018 13:57:47   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
Sirsnapalot wrote:
Most of us older folks who's been around before the "D" was added to SLR and started in dark rooms still prefer the advantage of manual.


I could have not said it better. If fact I didn't
Bravo

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May 19, 2018 14:10:12   #
BebuLamar
 
selmslie wrote:
Before you know it we will be surrounded by self driving cars and that's bound to open up a market for self driving wheelchairs.


I dream of some day owning a self driving RV but I don't care for automated cameras.

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May 19, 2018 14:40:15   #
szoots
 
Use what works for you and the situation. Folks that are locked into manual only will miss shots. Folks locked into anything only will miss or mess up shots. Folks who use all of the different features will also miss or mess up shots. That’s why it’s fun and the chase goes on for that shot that we actually wanted and got.

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May 19, 2018 15:18:43   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
SteveR wrote:
Auto mode may be a place to start, but it will not meet all the needs of particular shooting situations. If all you want is a fancy point and shoot camera, a dslr in auto mode will do that for you. If you want to expand your photographic horizons, a dslr will allow you to do that as well. One instance in which auto mode will not work so well for you.....sports. You'll end up with blur.



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May 19, 2018 15:27:54   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
AndyH wrote:
A technicality. They select the gear and the clutches and computer do the rest. Hardly “manual” in my view. Virtually every aspect of a multi million dollar F-1 car is automated or assisted by technology - steering, braking, etc. And there are limiters on each system, making driver error less likely and preventing costly mistakes.

I’d love to take a lap in one of Fangio’s old front engine beasts, but I probably wouldn’t get through the first double clutch going into Turn One, without grinding gears or going off track. With enough technical training, I could probably do a slow lap in a modern F-1 car.

That’s the analogy here - today’s Greats use technology to the max when it’s to their advantage. I think we should too.

Andy
A technicality. They select the gear and the clutc... (show quote)


All that techno stuff leads to is more money for a repair when a repair becomes a necessity. I asked a dealer for an all manual Mustang recently and he could not even present me with a manual transmission. Although it does have a rea drive train but it has a computer with a remote kill switch built it. I asked "why a built in engine kill switch?" He could not answer that one either. If you want an all pro camera then you buy one with the all manual mode which will include those irritating auto controls at a higher cost than the ones with just auto control. I still say a human well versed in his profession can work faster when he knows his no-automatic tools that he has on hand. Our brain still processes faster than a computer.

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May 19, 2018 15:41:44   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
szoots wrote:
Use what works for you and the situation. Folks that are locked into manual only will miss shots. Folks locked into anything only will miss or mess up shots. ....

If you just pick an exposure and stick with it you will be safer than letting your camera responding to changes in reflective properties in the scene.

You won't miss shots in broad daylight if your exposure settings are locked on Sunny 16. If a cloud covers the sun it's easy to add a stop or fix it later in post. If it's overcast the light is not changing rapidly and the dynamic range is reduced.

The only shots you might miss would be because it's hard to focus on rapidly moving subjects, not because of changing light.

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May 19, 2018 16:23:29   #
royb_36-cox.net Loc: Phoenix
 
steve36 wrote:
Two words: Spell check!


And JUST READ IT THROUGH ONCE AFTER YOU DOT THE LAST SENTENCE!

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May 19, 2018 16:30:52   #
rplain1 Loc: Dayton, Oh.
 
If God didn"t want us to use manual, why did the Nikon gods, the Canon gods and all the other gods leave it on the camera?

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May 19, 2018 16:51:24   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
srt101fan wrote:
Interesting comment....what, actually, is a "completely manual shooter"?


Pin hole camera

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May 19, 2018 16:55:06   #
rplain1 Loc: Dayton, Oh.
 
karno wrote:
Pin hole camera
Isn't that a FULLY automatic camera? After all, you can't set anything on your own.

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May 19, 2018 17:35:42   #
BebuLamar
 
rplain1 wrote:
Isn't that a FULLY automatic camera? After all, you can't set anything on your own.


No it's not. I do not consider fixed setting cameras automatic. An automatic camera must make all the settings needed but automatically. For the pin hole you do have control of the exposure time.

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May 19, 2018 17:39:33   #
rmacilroy Loc: pompano beach, fl
 
You right on

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May 19, 2018 18:22:10   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
rplain1 wrote:
Isn't that a FULLY automatic camera? After all, you can't set anything on your own.

That's what makes it manual.
I would believe that because you use a pin to poke tinfoil you are acrually building the aperture and since you stop the exposure without any mechanics you are also the shutter and the fact that you cannot see the image it is guesswork and is about as manual as one can get, in fact you can actually build the camera.
It is fun to think about

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May 19, 2018 18:25:35   #
al13
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Some on this site just like to engage in spirited discussion, some like to take a more judgmental approach. I don't care what camera or settings or pp software (if any) you use. Is the photo memorable, does it move me, is it fun and engaging, is it inspiring for its creativity and vision so that I want to go out and try similar, would I buy it if my walls weren't already full of my own pics (wink)?

What's Important in a Photograph and What Isn't

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Some on this site just like to engage in spirited ... (show quote)


That was a great article.

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May 19, 2018 18:31:29   #
rmacilroy Loc: pompano beach, fl
 
if you picked up a camera and shot and it took the perfict photo what would be the the point of being a photographer. could just walk around with video camera on the top of your head.

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