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Apr 22, 2018 14:28:40   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
What’s a good lens length for oral (teeth) photos??? Wide? Macro?

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Apr 22, 2018 14:33:14   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
I believe a longer length macro is preferred by most . .....with ring light

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Apr 22, 2018 14:54:10   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
imagemeister wrote:
I believe a longer length macro is preferred by most . .....

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Thanks

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Apr 22, 2018 15:01:19   #
BebuLamar
 
Toment wrote:
What’s a good lens length for oral (teeth) photos??? Wide? Macro?


The Yashica dental eye has 100 f/4 macro with built in ring flash. So a 100 mm lens for FF and may be 50mm lens for APS-C.

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Apr 22, 2018 15:07:01   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
BebuLamar wrote:
The Yashica dental eye has 100 f/4 macro with built in ring flash. So a 100 mm lens for FF and may be 50mm lens for APS-C.


I think Nikon uses a 200mm for their dental kit.....

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Apr 22, 2018 15:43:11   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
BebuLamar wrote:
The Yashica dental eye has 100 f/4 macro with built in ring flash. So a 100 mm lens for FF and may be 50mm lens for APS-C.


Thanks

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Apr 22, 2018 15:43:26   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
imagemeister wrote:
I think Nikon uses a 200mm for their dental kit.....

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Thanks

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Apr 22, 2018 19:22:01   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
BebuLamar wrote:
The Yashica dental eye has 100 f/4 macro with built in ring flash. So a 100 mm lens for FF and may be 50mm lens for APS-C.



I teach intra-oral photography at the university where I work*.
Back in the film days, we had 3 Yashica Dental eye cameras with the 100mm lens.
Awesome camera! If it was in focus, it was exposed correctly.
(They made a version with a 55 or 60mm lens too.)
We use Canon T5's now with the Canon MR-14 ringlight.

For full-frame, a 100 works well, anything longer makes it hard to get a full arch and a few other views, as you are so far back the lips can get getting in the way and if you want full-face, flash power from the ringlight is significantly reduced. For APS-C, 100mm-ish works, but something shorter like a 60 for Canon is ideal (works out similar to a 96mm on full-frame).
If you are after just single teeth or maybe just a few like a periodontist would want, that's not as big an issue.
I would love to see a kit with a micro-4/3rds hit the market.
The smaller size would make it easier for staff to handle, image quality is more than enough too.
Unfortunately, the ringlights are still pretty big and it makes them unwieldy.
Metz makes the 15 MS-1 which is supposed to work with Olympus/Panasonic, but I don't have access to that system to try it.

Check out Lester Dine (they invented the ring light)
and PhotoMed for more info on what they sell.
Both sell DSLR kits and adapted point & shoot models.
Of course, there are wand cameras, but that's another whole ball of worms and not something I deal with.
*(got a lay-off notice last week so...early retirement for me!)

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Apr 22, 2018 19:35:25   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
imagemeister wrote:
I think Nikon uses a 200mm for their dental kit.....

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I thought maybe I was loosing my mind about Nikon - but found this - which explains my (old) thinking - https://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/special/120medical.htm

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Apr 22, 2018 19:39:27   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
imagemeister wrote:
I think Nikon uses a 200mm for their dental kit.....

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If you're referring to the 200mm Medical Nikkor, it was a beast to use.
Had close-up lenses to screw on to the front, depending on what magnification you wanted and a bulky battery pack.
We still have one somewhere....this is from the web:



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Apr 22, 2018 19:41:48   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
imagemeister wrote:
I thought maybe I was loosing my mind about Nikon - but found this - which explains my (old) thinking - https://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/special/120medical.htm

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Much better, but still bulky and too long for crop sensor camera....Nice lens though!

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Apr 22, 2018 19:57:21   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Toment wrote:
What’s a good lens length for oral (teeth) photos??? Wide? Macro?


I was recently at a dental office that used a compact camera, it was Lester Dine, that have been the standard for macro setups for dentists, the technology has moved forward over the years they are not using the big macro lenses once used, their current offering looks more like a toothbrush than a camera.

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Apr 22, 2018 20:04:35   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I was recently at a dental office that used a compact camera, it was Lester Dine, that have been the standard for macro setups for dentists, the technology has moved forward over the years they are not using the big macro lenses once used, their current offering looks more like a toothbrush than a camera.


Some cosmetic and orthodontists still use the bigger, conventional cameras.

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Apr 22, 2018 21:11:12   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Thanks, all, for your help. Have an a6000, will get a macro 100 or less! and use a a ring light or get a Lester Dine kit
Thanks again

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Apr 23, 2018 05:55:49   #
chippy65 Loc: Cambridge
 
Sorry to hear about your lay-off/ redundancy............hope you will enjoy yourself

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