Why B&W When You Have Colour? (Page 11): It isn't hard to understand what he is getting at. Our eyes don't see out of focus backgrounds, so photographs with out of focus backgrounds...

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

Feiertag wrote:

But I don't shoot with a larger aperture. How am I having an issue? I don't understand where you are going with this? Stop drinking booze or smoking the wacky weed.

It isn't hard to understand what he is getting at. Our eyes don't see out of focus backgrounds, so photographs with out of focus backgrounds are not "real and natural".

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Bill_de wrote:

The OP said color is natural and b/w is not. Even ... (show quote)

At one point he indicated real and natural but photography is not real or natural and we've come to accept the aberrations we see. Buildings on the edge of the frame really don't lean in towards each other. The human eye perceives many more stops of light than a camera, Our eyes/brain don't compress telephoto images or or distort facial features taken too close to the subject, and don't add noise or change the depth of field or focus softer at the edges of the frame. And we don't view life with flat sides and 90 degree corners. Our eyes do not work the same way a camera does and what we see in reality is very different then what we see in photos. He is deluding himself if he believes any of this is real or natural. But then that's what photography is about. Its a delusion to allow to us to believe we've captured on a flat image what we see in real life. In that regard B&W may be more honest because it does not pretend to mimic what we see with our eyes.

Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada

JohnSwanda wrote:

It isn't hard to understand what he is getting at. Our eyes don't see out of focus backgrounds, so photographs with out of focus backgrounds are not "real and natural".

Exactly. He is talking nonsense. People have a tendency to post comments without any thought. He is a prime example of this fact.

JPringle Loc: Australia

JohnSwanda wrote:

It isn't hard to understand what he is getting at. Our eyes don't see out of focus backgrounds, so photographs with out of focus backgrounds are not "real and natural".

My peripheral vision is never quite in focus - I thought everyone else's was OOF too.

Back to that damn optometrist for me!!

tdekany Loc: Oregon

Feiertag wrote:

But I don't shoot with a larger aperture. How am I having an issue? I don't understand where you are going with this? Stop drinking booze or smoking the wacky weed.

Interesting that you would mention booze. I had one sip of beer in my entire life.

If you don’t understand it, it would make sense, since you also don’t get why some people like B&W.

Real life IS deeeeeeep depth of field. If you take a bird picture and the background is blurred, it is not real life. So if you like natural pictures, wouldn’t it make sense to use the smallest aperture at all times? After all, that is what you see.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

Feiertag wrote:

Exactly. He is talking nonsense. People have a tendency to post comments without any thought. He is a prime example of this fact.

You really need to read what you are seeing in these posts. He is explaining to you the same thing I’m saying. I actually did think about what I was writing in my reply. You may want to try the same thing.

Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada

tdekany wrote:

Interesting that you would mention booze. I had one sip of beer in my entire life.

If you don’t understand it, it would make sense, since you also don’t get why some people like B&W.

Real life IS deeeeeeep depth of field. If you take a bird picture and the background is blurred, it is not real life. So if you like natural pictures, wouldn’t it make sense to use the smallest aperture at all times? After all, that is what you see.

The effects of you beer sip had a lasting effect. No wonder you didn't have another sip. Where do you get off thinking that the background isn't blurred when you are focused on a subject? There is no way both are in focus! Open you eyes. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada

tdekany wrote:

You really need to read what you are seeing in these posts. He is explaining to you the same thing I’m saying. I actually did think about what I was writing in my reply. You may want to try the same thing.

I don't have to do anything. Have a nice evening.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

Feiertag wrote:

The effects of you beer sip had a lasting effect. No wonder you didn't have another sip. Where do you get off thinking that the background isn't blurred when you are focused on a subject? There is no way both are in focus! Open you eyes. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Are you now saying that you see blur with your eyes?

You are making less and less sense.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

Feiertag wrote:

I don't have to do anything. Have a nice evening.

Ignorance is bliss.

Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada

tdekany wrote:

Ignorance is bliss.

Bite me.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

Feiertag wrote:

Bite me.

How about you work on your own skills, so you can appreciate your own B&W photos and respect that other people may like something different. How about that for a start?

WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio

I always watch black and white TV much better than color. Golf matches are much better in black and white. GEE!!!

WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio

I always watch black and white TV much better than color. Golf matches are much better in black and white. GEE!!!

canon Lee

Feiertag wrote:

Lee, I don't give up easily. I'm anal. I have the philosophy, if you can do it, so can I with effort and determination. Thank you for your very kind comment. I respect you. Cheers.

Your the man...