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Apr 16, 2018 08:08:24   #
AzShooter1 Loc: Surprise, Az.
 
Ask them to get a professional but they volunteer to be a back-up photographer. As a friend you will have a different prospective on what to shoot. You may not get the traditional stuff down but you can walk around and get special friend and family that the pro will miss. Some of those shots are priceless.

Ask if you can meet with them before the wedding and take some shots of them getting ready or at a local park or church settings.

You don't have to be stressed out if you know you aren't the primary photographer. Have fun.

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Apr 16, 2018 08:40:54   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
When asked to shoot an important family event, I beg off saying I am not qualified. I offer instead to pay half the fee of a professional who knows how to take all the special photographs of the event in question.

This approach works to free me from the task that I cannot fulfill.

If I do show up, I will take pictures on my own. Because I know most of the people in attendance, I can get candids that the pro cannot. Couples and groups will ask me to take their picture.

Further, I do not have to stay for the whole event. I can leave pretty much when I feel like it.

I offer my experience here as one remedy.
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
“I have been asked to photograph a family wedding...I have little experience...I brought my camera to a few weddings and took some candid shots of my friends... they liked them... I have 2 bodies and 12 lenses and 1 speedlight...what camera- lens-flash should I use? Should I set the camera on program or manual...??? Can you send me a list of shots to take”?

Questions like these appear on this forum and many others quite regularly . My first reaction is to recall the venerated advice of my grandmother and “mind my own business, shut my big mouth and go away”! And of course, “If you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all”! As a long time dyed in the wool professional wedding shooter and the assistant manager on the esteemed Hog wedding section, I always feel compelled to offer my advice- sometimes much to the disdain and/or chagrin of the uninitiated OP.

So...what do I do? What is my process? Well, if the OP is an experienced wedding photographer, he would not be asking those question so I assume he or she is an amateur or perhaps an advanced photographer who excels at something other than or far removed from weddings.

My first inclination it to dissuade this photographer from undertaking such an assignment without the prerequisite savvy, experience, chutzpah, equipment, know how and all that good stuff. If that does not deter them, I continue to explain the ramifications of a failed wedding shoot such as disownment by their families, banishment by their friends, a nasty and financially disastrous lawsuit, and, at very least, a whole lot of embarrassment.

Sometimes they listen to me but oftentimes they won't. Erstwhile, they are egged on and encouraged by other posters to carry on , after all “it ain't rocket science or brain surgery”! The advice ensues and some of it is good and some of it is bad- very bad!

The photographers who agree with me and the other dissuader's advice and proceed to convince their family member or friend to engage the service of a professional, however, many agree but plead extenuating circumstances- there are many: The couple can in no way afford a professional. Or...they now realize the should have hired a professional but the wedding is 2 days off- a fine time to be asking technical advice! The “original” photographer became indisposed, incapacitated, has passed away, gone bankrupt, was devoured by an army of red ants on his last nature shoot, was carried off to a distant universe by aliens, has reneged on their contract, backed out, was murdered in his sleep by a disgruntled bride (client) or otherwise disappeared. The OP, therefore feels duty-bound to march into battle. At that that point, as a Good Samaritan, I feel compelled to advise on some fail-safe methods, show some pictures, fire off some diagrams and pray for their salvation.

Really, I do hope and pray for their success. I want them to prove me wrong and post some fabulous images of that wedding- I don't mind being wrong, at least for the sake of that bride and groom and this photographer's hide. Perhaps they will experience a wave of beginners luck or are suddenly able to unleash some unknown talent. So far, this hasn't happened.

So...the fateful day arrives and YOU, being the family photo guru of excellent repute- known for your outstanding imagery of birds and bridges and Uncle Oscar's last birthday party are “drafted”! It's your favorite niece's wedding.. You would rater take you own appendix out or even pay for a professional to cover the glorious event but they insist in YOU! So...how do you get out of it even after diplomacy fails. Here's my foolproof system:

Tell them that your will take on the job but first they have to secure written permission form the church or officiating authorities and the reception venue management for you to bring in your VERY large format cameras, your hydraulic platform lift and drone cameras for those high angle shots. Ask what their feeling are about the use of flash powder! Make certain they know that you don't believe in those little speedlights and your smallest flash unit puts out 2400 watt-seconds- and you have 6 or them.

Next show them photographs of your well attired and amiable assistants and second shooters.

If they don't relent, just tell then that you insist on injecting each member of the bridal party, just prior to the ceremony, with a radioactive material that causes them to glow in the dark. This is handy in case flash is prohibited in a dark church and will make for a cool special effect, especially if there are no sparklers or the DJ or the venue doesn't have some of those nifty laser lights or mirrored balls.

Oh, and all clients have to get passed the studio cat who does our credit checks, and draws up all our contracts.

If you don't have theses visual materials on hand, please feel free to use the little “brochure” I will post in the next reply box.

OK folks, I do hope y'all have a sense of humor or can appreciate mine. There is an underlying moral. I am told that as we age, the sudden appearance of a warped sense of humor, toward the slapstick kind, may be a sign of the onset of dementia. Problem is, I did this kinda thinking when I was young.
“I have been asked to photograph a family wedding.... (show quote)

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Apr 16, 2018 08:56:32   #
wishaw
 
The wedding photos are a process. Stand the bride alone. Fix the dress. Don't let the bridesmaids fix the dress. Pictures of the bride looking at the camera and off to the side. Stand in the groom and take a few shots. Stand in the bridal party and take a few shots. Stand in the parents. You now have the basics. You can then do the other shots depending on where you are.
I do not remember hundreds oh weddings I done. I do remember the groom, best man and most of their friends being drunk. The bride 2 hours late because she tried to get across the city in rush hour. The page knocked over the tripod with the hasselblad. The mother who did not like the photos. There were 50 pics of the bride and groom with various guests and the reason she did not like them was that there was no picture of aunt Mary.
If you really want to do weddings ask a local professional if you can carry his gear. It can be fun

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Apr 16, 2018 08:59:40   #
crazydaddio Loc: Toronto Ontario Canada
 
I think I may be the exception
Jumped into weddings with both feet.
Researched. Wrote my own contracts. Studied posing. Practised. Stressed. Planned. Visited the venue and had every shot on a list. Backup plans. 2 cameras on my person for the entire 15hr day....I was always disappointed with the results and the clients loved them. ( a good combination for continual inprovement).

You can do it. I did it.
But be prepared to be prepared. Military level planning...day by the minute.. and well practiced with nerves of steel and a smile and 1 step ahead of everything that is happening.....and when it goes sideways (and it will)... you can adjust.

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Apr 16, 2018 09:07:50   #
billnourse Loc: Bloomfield, NM
 
I have shot two weddings. 1 was years ago for a friend of mine in the old film days and it was okay, but not great. The couple was very pleased with it and he even mentioned how much he liked the pics when I attended the wife's (my friend) funeral (cancer) years later.

The second was for a friend's son. They asked, I said no that I did not do weddings. They then said that they guessed they would just have to get by with cell phone pics. I figured I couldn't mess up anymore than that, so I went ahead and did the shoot. Again not the greatest, but they seemed pleased with the results, and it was better than their alternative.

I did shoot a vow renewal for a friend, but that is certainly not the same. They already had wedding pics so it wasn't like I was going to ruin a once in a lifetime thing.

Bill

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Apr 16, 2018 09:10:29   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
I have shot many weddings. Mostly as a guest, but with good equipment. I have shot two weddings without a pro in attendance (by their design) but for only one of them would I have called myself the designated photographer. That was for a very low budget home wedding for a pair of friends from college whose wedding was about as informal as you could get (early '60s). I used my speed graphic back then, with a few photos from the Exakta. Their marriage lasted more than 50 years. I'm sure that, by today's standards, I missed a few of the requisite group shots.

The other wedding without a pro was in 2001 when my sister entered into her second marriage. Again, it was at home and very informal. In 2001 digital cameras were not uncommon and all the wedding guests had one or more and used it. I had a P&S. The reception was at a restaurant with dim lighting so there were not many good shots from it but I managed to get one usable one.

I shot pretty much every wedding I attended as a guest, but it really wasn't until digital came along that the shots got better (primarily because digital photos are free, once you get past the capital expense and before you get to printing, but by that time everyone was sharing the photos by email). Once I got into DSLRs the photos got pretty decent so there were a few I shared with the pro.

I would not consider being the primary photographer at a wedding. First of all, I'm not up on the required list of shots necessary for today's weddings. A friend of mine did one about 8 years ago. Again a low budget affair. His wife was the second shooter. As it turned out I was the third. He ran into problems when his SB900 got flaky during the reception (overheating was common with that model). I loaned him some Eneloops and he was able to finish OK. At my age I don't want that kind of pressure.

Since I'm an amateur photographer, I enjoy taking photos. So I am happy to take photos at weddings. At least the photos that appeal to me when I come across them. The pro has no time to enjoy his/her work. And particularly when it's friends or family, I would want to enjoy the wedding. So I would not want to be the primary guy there. I will take photos as much as possible, but for family, particularly close family, there are things that I would have to do that would preclude my getting some shots. So I'll stay in the background as far as the photography is concerned.

I'm sure there are low-budget weddings still where the photographer is deemed a luxury. But everyone takes photos now. Everyone has a cell phone. It's not like the couple will not have something to remember their wedding by. Maybe it won't be a polished presentation, but they will have something. For a low-budget wedding, I'm sure that's just what they will expect. My only advice to such couples would be to collect all the images that people email to them in one folder and back it up. It's cheaper than printing them all. Later you can put them together into your own wedding book.

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Apr 16, 2018 09:33:06   #
dukepresley
 
NO, NO, a thousand times NO! My wife’s family close to use a relative for our ceremony; there occurred an unknown camera error & when our children ask to see our wedding pics, we merely change the subject.

When our daughters married, we hired one of our cities’ top pros & have great memories!

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Apr 16, 2018 09:48:32   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
I am not considered a professional photographer nor pretend to be one. However I have been an assistant to one at several wedding events. These fellows earn every penny they command. I've never worked so hard in all my years as I did at the wedding and reception events. They were worse than the proverbial, "herding a room full of cats" and many had been pre-celebrating. I found the photographer's pre-planning meeting with the bride and groom with an agreed upon list of the formal photos to be taken and where they would be staged to be a great value. My non-professional advice would be to leave the formal wedding photography to the professional of their choice and as a friend, take journalistic photos that you can share with them and their friends and family....Oh by the way, be sure to wear your running shoes..!

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Apr 16, 2018 09:53:47   #
deer2ker Loc: Nashville, TN
 
This is an interestingly timely topic. I was just asked to be a photographers' second. I said, "Oh, I would love to be your assistant!" He said, "No, I want you to be my second." Ummmm.... Story is, the photographer mentioned is a seasoned wedding photographer and very good but he is doing a couple in our church's wedding for free. I took her bridal shower pictures for her and he liked my "eye". I told him I am in no way close to being able to shoot a wedding and he said, if you have time, I will give you free classes in the next couple of weeks to practice and he wants me to take the candid shots because he likes what he saw in the shower pics! How can I say no to free classes!!!??? He understands the risks (and the couple in mention wants me to do it too ;) so I am going to do it for the experience. He wants me to bring my 50 and my Tokina 11-16 (wedding is in a beautiful country setting) So we shall see........

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Apr 16, 2018 10:18:47   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
I hear often from members on UHH not to shoot weddings. I have to disagree DEPENDING upon the type of wedding. If this is a huge gala affair with 100-200 guests then I wholeheartedly agree with those thoughts. But all weddings are not like that. I have shot two weddings for friends, actually one was of my friends who were married about 40 years ago and the second wedding was of their son and his new wife. Guests were in the 12-30 range. The bride and groom of neither wedding had much money and sure didn't want to spend hundreds of dollars on a professional photographer. They knew I was into photography as a hobby and asked if I would take the pictures. I told them of my limitations and they said whatever they got was fine but they did want photos. I shot both weddings, the first one with film and the second was digital. 90% of the photos were just fine with the bride and groom and they were ecstatic having wedding photos.

My point is all weddings are not the same. I know that there are bridezillas out there, demanding parents etc., other guests who insist on getting their photos as well as mine. Not a problem. Good wedding photographers learn to work around those people and still get their photos too.

Dennis

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Apr 16, 2018 10:24:43   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
To each his own.

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Apr 16, 2018 10:27:51   #
bthomas42 Loc: North Ridgeville Ohio
 
About 45 years ago while in Florida for my wife's cousins wedding I took about 100 pictures during the wedding and reception without a flash. Just found the slides an copied them to my computer. On a recent trip to visit them I took a CD with the pictures. I turned out these where the only pictures of their wedding, The photographer the hired got drunk and none of the pictures he took where usable. They where overjoyed to finally have some pictures of their big day.

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Apr 16, 2018 10:35:12   #
Idaho
 
I enjoy being the second camera on a wedding with a pro who has all the responsibility . How much shooting I may do in this situation depends and I need the pro's blessings, of course. Then, it is fun.

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Apr 16, 2018 10:35:36   #
TGanner Loc: Haines, Alaska
 
When we got married, we gave everyone who wanted to participate a disposable camera, and had a collection basket for the drop-off at the end of the reception. We got great results of real moments of actual life and fun. Hard to beat cameo shots. Every once in a while, kind of miss the film days. (More often not.)

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Apr 16, 2018 10:36:26   #
throughrhettseyes Loc: Rowlett, TX
 
I my 40+ years as a photo hobbyist I have done 1 wedding. Fortunately the bride had a pro photographer doing the wedding. So I was just a back up and so I shot in JPG and just gave them my SD card to use any way they wanted. I just stayed out of the pros way as a courtesy. Thus no bridezilla to worry about. It was mostly for her dad because he is a good friend of mine. I did have a Pro commercial photographer friend of mine says he doesn't do weddings. He got an offer to do a friends wedding so he said that he would do it for $5000. For that he would shoot it all in JPEG and hand them the SD at the end of the day to do with what they wanted to. Thus no post processing or printing and most of all not having the bridezilla to tell him what to do in post. Easiest $5000 he ever made.

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