Difference between 12mm and 17mm lens
Apr 10, 2018 15:00:22 #
indeject wrote:
Hello,
I have a D7100 with a 17-55mm 2.8 lens. I’m interested in the Nikon 12-24mm f4 lens for wider angle photos when I do group photos indoors with flash. My question is how much of a difference would I see with 12mm vs. 17mm? Thanks!!
I have a D7100 with a 17-55mm 2.8 lens. I’m interested in the Nikon 12-24mm f4 lens for wider angle photos when I do group photos indoors with flash. My question is how much of a difference would I see with 12mm vs. 17mm? Thanks!!
Five millimeters. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Apr 10, 2018 15:01:37 #
bkyser wrote:
Just be prepared for a LOT of distortion when using that wide on people photos.
I'm not saying don't use, it, but keep people as close to the middle as possible anyway. If you have them from one side of the frame to the other, be prepared for the people on the sides to get pretty angry with you for making them look so "wide"
I'm not saying don't use, it, but keep people as close to the middle as possible anyway. If you have them from one side of the frame to the other, be prepared for the people on the sides to get pretty angry with you for making them look so "wide"
But as an advantage, with a wider (10mm) field of view, you can frame your group loosely, meaning that the people on the ends are sufficiently away from the edge leaving a margin where the natural wide angle distortion lives, and is easily cropped without making those end folks look like Popeye's arms or the Michelin Man.
In general, a few mm on a wide angle lens makes a very much larger difference that it does on a longer lens.
Those field of view image examples are very helpful.
Apr 10, 2018 16:08:32 #
LWW wrote:
That much.
That much.
Sorry to nitpick but the image you post looks like a 16:9 aspect ratio and the camera in question only takes 4:3 aspect ratio image.
Apr 10, 2018 16:09:55 #
BHC wrote:
Five millimeters. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Sorry nitpicking again, the OP was talking about angle.
Apr 10, 2018 19:32:57 #
LWW wrote:
That much.
That much.
Great post. Any chance you could repost it with 'save original' for downloading?
Apr 11, 2018 06:22:57 #
When I bought my CANON 60D, I purchased it with 15-85 zoom. 2mm extra on the wide end than the previous version that went from 17mm that my neighbour has. You'd be surprised what difference 2mm can make. 12mm - 17mm is a serious jump and worth considering in my view.
Apr 11, 2018 07:41:00 #
Apr 11, 2018 07:58:17 #
Try a lens simulator.
https://www.sigma-imaging-uk.com/focal-length-simulator/
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/simulator/
https://hisgallery.com/blog/collection-of-online-camera-simulators-lens-simulators
http://canonfeatures.ca/comparison-tool
https://www.diyphotography.net/use-nikons-lens-simulator-to-pick-your-next-lens-non-nikon-shooters-too/
https://www.sigma-imaging-uk.com/focal-length-simulator/
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/simulator/
https://hisgallery.com/blog/collection-of-online-camera-simulators-lens-simulators
http://canonfeatures.ca/comparison-tool
https://www.diyphotography.net/use-nikons-lens-simulator-to-pick-your-next-lens-non-nikon-shooters-too/
Apr 11, 2018 09:19:33 #
Hope you plan on using multiple off-camera speedlights as an on-camera unit wouldn't be able to light the entire frame, causing light falloff at the edges...
Apr 11, 2018 09:49:58 #
As you can see from the diagram you are gaining a lot of real estate....but you will need to learn how to use it.
Apr 11, 2018 09:55:15 #
Screamin Scott wrote:
Hope you plan on using multiple off-camera speedlights as an on-camera unit wouldn't be able to light the entire frame, causing light falloff at the edges...
Thanks. These photos take place on a theatre stage with many of the stage lights illuminated. The flash I use is usually a bounce flash to guard against shadows.
Apr 11, 2018 11:21:04 #
indeject wrote:
Hello,
My question is how much of a difference would I see with 12mm vs. 17mm? Thanks!!
My question is how much of a difference would I see with 12mm vs. 17mm? Thanks!!
About 5mm - Kidding.... Just had to throw that in. LOL
Apr 11, 2018 11:32:58 #
gvarner
Loc: Central Oregon Coast
Go to the calculator at tabaware.com and you can put in the variables to see the effect on field of view at a given subject distance for any sensor/lens combination.
Apr 11, 2018 11:50:39 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
indeject wrote:
Hello,
I have a D7100 with a 17-55mm 2.8 lens. I’m interested in the Nikon 12-24mm f4 lens for wider angle photos when I do group photos indoors with flash. My question is how much of a difference would I see with 12mm vs. 17mm? Thanks!!
I have a D7100 with a 17-55mm 2.8 lens. I’m interested in the Nikon 12-24mm f4 lens for wider angle photos when I do group photos indoors with flash. My question is how much of a difference would I see with 12mm vs. 17mm? Thanks!!
I own and still use the Nikon 12-24 f4. They have made this lens for a LONG time. Tells you what folks think about this lens. Just watch the edge distortion on this lens. But post processing can correct this, I am not sure that the D7100 can do this also in the retouch menu, I know the D7500 has it.
You can get this lens MINT, in the box for a very good price off ebay. Enjoy and keep on shooting until the end.
Apr 11, 2018 12:59:28 #
bpulv
Loc: Buena Park, CA
mark53 wrote:
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Your flash problem is caused by the fact that most flash units project a light beam that is only as wide as a 28mm lenses angle of view. Bounce flash works because it defuses the light over a wider area.
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