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Apr 4, 2018 07:33:11   #
WayneT Loc: Paris, TN
 
The main reason I went to a Canon Pro 100 was the same problem you are having; I couldn't find the right combination and had no control on how I wanted my prints to process. You might want to check out the possibility of doing your own, you can pick up a Pro 100 for about $50.00 when you factor in their rebate in combination with free paper and a full set of inks. Check here: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/893738-REG/Canon_6228b002_Pixma_Pro_100_Photo_Inkjet.html

Red River paper will give you all the choices of paper you will ever need and there are also other manufacturers of paper that have phenomenally good paper as well as a wide selection of formats you may want to experiment with. Another fun part of digital photography.

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Apr 4, 2018 07:58:50   #
SafariGuy
 
Diamond41 wrote:
When I did my own b/w printing, I did satin and matte for personal use and glossy for production. Now that I am doing digital and not printing myself, I am only finding glossy.....

Do you have a preference for show/contests? For display at home?

What results have people of had with canvas? Looks like a good idea for the right picture.


We have gone to all canvas for display at home and have found it to be very reasonably priced. I assume canvas would not be what contests etc. Check out www.canvaspeople.com. Here are a few of the images displayed in our home.



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Apr 4, 2018 08:01:55   #
pahtspix
 
Check out http://www.redriverpaper.com Great SELECTION, pricing, service, and LOTS of INFORMATION to help you along..I've been using them almost exclusively for more than 8 years for my printed images for myself, or for sale to clients or images for framing! They can answer virtually any question you may have!!

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Apr 4, 2018 08:36:40   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I don't print very often, but when I do, I use paper made by the maker of the printer. I use gloss or matte, depending on the situation. I recently did a batch for a local playhouse, and I was surprised at the variation in color I got using three different printers.


I'll bet you also drink Dos Equis.

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Apr 4, 2018 08:56:53   #
Skiextreme2 Loc: Northwest MA
 
Diamond41 wrote:
When I did my own b/w printing, I did satin and matte for personal use and glossy for production. Now that I am doing digital and not printing myself, I am only finding glossy available on a regular basis. I checked a local camera shop what type of printing they had available and got a confusing answer that did not tell me anything. I have not checked what the other camera shop offers.

What paper type do you use and why?

Do you have a preference for show/contests? For display at home?

What results have people of had with canvas? Looks like a good idea for the right picture.
When I did my own b/w printing, I did satin and ma... (show quote)


I haven't bought paper in a while but I was always able to find a very good selection of papers at Staples (I use Epson papers). They have Epson, HP, Canon and Kodak papers. When I do print, I prefer matte or satin paper.

B&H also has a great selection of papers.

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Apr 4, 2018 09:37:39   #
lnewcome
 
I love the idea of printing on canvas and have seen only one picture done as such. Is it expensive and how do you find a business that does printing on canvas? Linda

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Apr 4, 2018 09:44:28   #
WayneT Loc: Paris, TN
 
lnewcome wrote:
I love the idea of printing on canvas and have seen only one picture done as such. Is it expensive and how do you find a business that does printing on canvas? Linda


There is a link above for http://www.canvaspeople.com/ and many of us do our own canvas prints at home on our inkjet printers.

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Apr 4, 2018 10:05:23   #
wilfred
 
I recentlly conducted a test to determine which paper yielded the most vibrant results. This was to determine which paper to use for monthly club competition. For those special fine art type images and portraits, I use Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Satin, but it is too expensive to print everyday stuff, especially considering our club judging and critiquing is done from 8 feet away.
I printed the same (scenic) image on 12 papers from 5 well known paper manufactures. I put a number from 1 thur 12 on the back of each, and made a master list with the name of each paper and its price. I mixed up the papers and very carefully and painstakingly sorted out until i finally decided on on what i considered best, giving no regard for price. The papers ranged in price from 60cents per foot to $3. per foot. After choosing the paper, I looked its number up on the list to determine what paper I had chosen and would I be willing to pay its price.
I must say, all of the papers look very similar and it took lots of time being very critical to find a difference. The differences I found were a slight increase in contrast in the mid tones and the papers ability to present the neutral grays in the image as neutral with no color cast in them.
I have since given the prints to a friend who is having a terrible time deciding the differences. He has not yet called me to find out what he has chosen.
As for me: Like my mom always said "you have a champange appetite with a beer pocketbook" , my choice was "Ilford Prestege Gold Mono Silk" ($3. per foot). Too much to spend on camera club images, so I looked more and found that I really like the Hahneumuhle Photo Luster (90 cents per foot). I must say however that any of the other papers would do for average viewing. I really feel however that the Epson Ultra Premium Luster would be the smartest choice, as it is the least expensive of all and is 60 cents per foot. Most will be hard pressed to see any difference between papers, especially any between Epson and Hahneumhle. I printed on Epson, Hahnelumhle, Illford, Canson, Red River. All of the papers were either Luster, Pearl, or Satin. I used Image Print 10 to print using Image Print profiles.

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Apr 4, 2018 10:36:29   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Diamond41 wrote:
When I did my own b/w printing, I did satin and matte for personal use and glossy for production. Now that I am doing digital and not printing myself, I am only finding glossy available on a regular basis. I checked a local camera shop what type of printing they had available and got a confusing answer that did not tell me anything. I have not checked what the other camera shop offers.

What paper type do you use and why?

Do you have a preference for show/contests? For display at home?

What results have people of had with canvas? Looks like a good idea for the right picture.
When I did my own b/w printing, I did satin and ma... (show quote)


Epson Legacy Fibre - a very white matte surface paper.

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Apr 4, 2018 11:06:39   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Lustre is better for glare and just as punchy as Glossy.

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Apr 4, 2018 11:18:16   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
I'm a BIG fan of Red River papers and stock them in several sizes and surfaces. For every day I use Ultra Pro Luster. As was said above, if I need something I don't have, I just order it. Best of luck.

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Apr 4, 2018 11:31:18   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
I only use Epson Ultra Premium Presentation Matte because it makes photos look wonderful.
Diamond41 wrote:
When I did my own b/w printing, I did satin and matte for personal use and glossy for production. Now that I am doing digital and not printing myself, I am only finding glossy available on a regular basis. I checked a local camera shop what type of printing they had available and got a confusing answer that did not tell me anything. I have not checked what the other camera shop offers.

What paper type do you use and why?

Do you have a preference for show/contests? For display at home?

What results have people of had with canvas? Looks like a good idea for the right picture.
When I did my own b/w printing, I did satin and ma... (show quote)

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Apr 4, 2018 12:00:04   #
TonyBot
 
I am also a big fan of Red River products, and use their UltraPro Satin for an awful lot of printing. It is sort of a lustre finish -maybe called a semi-gloss by some. I also like the Ilford Prestige Gold line. But my favorite - now seemingly discontinued - was Harman (by Hahnemuehle) Gloss Art Fibre, especially in the "warm tone" version.

However, as has been stated several times here, individual photos vary, and the way you wish to present them (your interpretation) may be different. Some could look good on canvas, some on slick metallics or acrylic faced, or on a textured mat paper. The advantage of printing yourself and trying out all the available "sample packs". However, if the lab you're using doesn't offer much selection, you should Google "professional photo printing in my area". You'll probably get some national labs in the top results, but check them out anyways. There are some exceptional printers around, and I hope you find one you like!

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Apr 4, 2018 16:45:09   #
Diamond41 Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
Wow, what a feedback. Thanks. I was not expecting so much. Thank you everyone. I now have a couple of companies to research.

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Apr 4, 2018 16:56:54   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
I send all mine out... no problems getting whatever paper I want, but I always want matte or luster.

I would suggest that you take a peak at the section all about printing your own photos. Those people know their stuff. I don't understand 99% of what they are saying, because I just don't WANT to learn about ICC profiles and all that jazz. My printers know me (Meridian and H&H) and I don't have to worry about getting another college degree to get what I want. When I worked in a photo lab, they gave me instructions on what they wanted. I do the same thing with the digital labs, and let them do the heavy lifting. Honestly, I don't think printing at home is that much cheaper when you consider the costs of printers, ink, replacing printers, paper, redoing several copies, replacing printers, printer repairs, redo even more photos that didn't print right, and replacing printers. I think I forgot to mention, the cost of replacing the printers in the actual cost of the prints. I dare say I blew through at least 10 printers before I wised up and started sending them out. I do have an event printer (DNP DS-80) but again, the cost per print is more than what I can send out. I just can't pop out the prints at a wedding or event with an inkjet, or by sending them out.

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