Excessive use of post processing
Mar 27, 2018 07:47:02 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
You are not the first - or the 50th - to voice this "concern" on this forum. Apparently you (and all who wrote the same thing before you) feel there is only one correct way to shoot or edit photos and that is your way. Why can't folks pursue and enjoy this hobby in whatever way they choose?
Great response, Linda.
In fact, your posts are usually wise.
Thank you for being here.
Mar 27, 2018 08:13:54 #
There is one simple reason not many think of, and that is, some people don't have perfect eyes and over compensate in PP to make things look good to them. And, some people were never taught to PP properly. Or maybe a client wanted the image that way. Unless you know why the image was posted that way, why drag it through the mud?
Mar 27, 2018 08:16:04 #
My two pfennings: Do and present what pleases you. Let others "ooh" or "boo" to their content. Remember that no two people will look at the product the same way.
My preference is to comment with my reaction to the imagery itself. That is what I, personally, strive to do. There will be enough others to comment on the process.
My preference is to comment with my reaction to the imagery itself. That is what I, personally, strive to do. There will be enough others to comment on the process.
Mar 27, 2018 08:20:55 #
I’m fairly new to this craft. There are pics I take, some scenic some of animals, birds, etc, that look good on the time 3” screen. Then I bring them up on my bigger screen and think, what happened to the color, where is that gorgeous red rock I saw and I want to fix it. Others are like - nothing neeeds to be done, I love this just the way it is.
I believe there is room for both schools of thought and beyond.
I believe there is room for both schools of thought and beyond.
Mar 27, 2018 08:35:36 #
Thanks to all who quoted my own comments. I absolutely love Stephan G's succinct "Do and present what pleases you. Let others "ooh" or "boo" to their content." I wanted to add that to my signature line but I can't fit any more in the space.
We're all loved by someone!
Mar 27, 2018 08:41:53 #
It is true that many images posted in photography forums, even those made by many professionals, have been heavily edited. Enhancing a photograph has a lot to do with the taste of the person during editing. Each one of us expresses art his or her way.
Many photographs lack the proper colors and I see nothing wrong enhancing them. I tend to go natural although at times and depending on the subject I could go beyond that. I try to avoid it but as I said at times I have done it.
Sharpening is another aspect of editing that tends to be overdone. I sharpen my images at 50% and always check the before and after views to make sure I have not done it. Still, I have overdone it in the occasional shot.
Art is different for us all.
Many photographs lack the proper colors and I see nothing wrong enhancing them. I tend to go natural although at times and depending on the subject I could go beyond that. I try to avoid it but as I said at times I have done it.
Sharpening is another aspect of editing that tends to be overdone. I sharpen my images at 50% and always check the before and after views to make sure I have not done it. Still, I have overdone it in the occasional shot.
Art is different for us all.
Mar 27, 2018 08:43:09 #
gvarner
Loc: Central Oregon Coast
A guideline that I frequently see is to make the photo look like the original scene. And so I wonder what it looked like that drew me to take the picture. But I digress. If you take a picture for the sake of creating a piece of art, then that's the goal for your initial capture and your post processing. Post may not be needed or it may be required to get where you want to go. And your goal may be far from what the original scene looked like. That's my two bits.
Mar 27, 2018 08:48:32 #
The Villages wrote:
I guess a lot comes down to.... has the picture you've taken look like what you actually saw? When you originally saw the scene, something intrigued you about it. Assuming your camera has reasonable reproduction powers, you leave it as is.
That is one very valid approach to photography. But ever since photography was invented some photographers have wanted to go beyond the way their eyes see things to a purely photographic vision. It's not just darkroom or computer manipulation. The eye can't see multiple exposures, long exposures, very fast exposures that freeze fast motion, etc. There's room for all kinds of approaches to photography besides trying to accurately reproduce what the eye sees.
Mar 27, 2018 08:52:32 #
Looking at what is displayed at this site, I am concerned by the lack of proper post-processing.
Mar 27, 2018 09:03:09 #
I think each person has to decide for themselves what is and is not acceptable. If they are selling them, then the market should dictate what is and is not acceptable. I have read, though have no first hand knowledge, that Ansel Adams would print a photograph dozens of times dodging and burning the image until it fit his vision, not necessarily exactly what the camera captured.
Mar 27, 2018 09:04:55 #
leftj
Loc: Texas
chippy65 wrote:
Yes, I agree very strongly. "You can't believ... (show quote)
Not to worry. It is easy to determine if a photograph has been post processed in any way.
Mar 27, 2018 09:14:03 #
catchlight..
Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
That is the difference between good and bad PS usage. A good outcome is worth the effort but many are using the full effects of PS without any knowledge or understanding.
Some even justify strait out of the camera is purism...
It takes years to master editing in PS but some claim do it well in a day or two...
Some even justify strait out of the camera is purism...
It takes years to master editing in PS but some claim do it well in a day or two...
Mar 27, 2018 09:19:05 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
There really does seem to be two distinct classes now:
PHOTOGRAPHERS: Who try to get everything correct in camera and then minimally use digital editing for cropping, shadow detail and the like. More of a true digital darkroom process.
PHOTSHOPOGRAPHERS: Who shoot everything in full auto and then try to make it into more of a painting than a photo.
Neither is inherently right, wrong, better or worse ... but they are distinctly different.
PHOTOGRAPHERS: Who try to get everything correct in camera and then minimally use digital editing for cropping, shadow detail and the like. More of a true digital darkroom process.
PHOTSHOPOGRAPHERS: Who shoot everything in full auto and then try to make it into more of a painting than a photo.
Neither is inherently right, wrong, better or worse ... but they are distinctly different.
Mar 27, 2018 09:22:21 #
Bob Locher wrote:
My major interest in photography is scenics. I lov... (show quote)
To me it depends on two things, neither of which are affected by the views of anyone other than those people in my target market who buy my Photographic Art: (1) What pleases me, and (2) What pleases those in my target market.
I have never liked monochrome. I find it ugly. After all, the world is not monochrome. It's in color.
Mar 27, 2018 09:37:52 #
LWW wrote:
There really does seem to be two distinct classes now:
PHOTOGRAPHERS: Who try to get everything correct in camera and then minimally use digital editing for cropping, shadow detail and the like. More of a true digital darkroom process.
PHOTSHOPOGRAPHERS: Who shoot everything in full auto and then try to make it into more of a painting than a photo.
Neither is inherently right, wrong, better or worse ... but they are distinctly different.
PHOTOGRAPHERS: Who try to get everything correct in camera and then minimally use digital editing for cropping, shadow detail and the like. More of a true digital darkroom process.
PHOTSHOPOGRAPHERS: Who shoot everything in full auto and then try to make it into more of a painting than a photo.
Neither is inherently right, wrong, better or worse ... but they are distinctly different.
Way oversimplified. Many photographers try to get everything as good as possible in the camera, and then post process to make the image fit their vision, which may or may not conform to what they originally saw.
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