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Mar 30, 2018 12:04:02   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
I, too, dislike the overly processed images that are often posted on line. I do postprocessing on my images but control my actions to only perk the image up a bit. I agree though, that photography is an art and photographers each in his own way, an artist. Just because you would do it, or don't like it doesn't mean that an image or a photographer should be maligned. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Many posting people are seeking constructive criticism and should be made without rancor or sarcasm.

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May 22, 2018 20:47:21   #
bobburk3 Loc: Maryland
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
You are not the first - or the 50th - to voice this "concern" on this forum. Apparently you (and all who wrote the same thing before you) feel there is only one correct way to shoot or edit photos and that is your way. Why can't folks pursue and enjoy this hobby in whatever way they choose?
YES!!! Art is in the eye of the beholder and we all have our preferences. I like some art and don't like other art. That is the beauty of art.

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May 22, 2018 22:59:01   #
Laura72568 Loc: Anderson TX
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
You are not the first - or the 50th - to voice this "concern" on this forum. Apparently you (and all who wrote the same thing before you) feel there is only one correct way to shoot or edit photos and that is your way. Why can't folks pursue and enjoy this hobby in whatever way they choose?


It took me a long time to understand this...it’s everyone’s own story they are telling with THEIR image. I used to say “that image is too processed, etc” but then I realized I tell MY story with MY style of PP and everyone else has their own style. It’s what makes the world go ‘round! ☺️

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May 22, 2018 23:11:39   #
crapshooter Loc: Fox, Alaska
 
Everyone has the the right to Shoot Their Own Crap and Like it :):):) Doesn't mean everyone has to though.

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May 23, 2018 09:49:15   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
crapshooter wrote:
Everyone has the the right to Shoot Their Own Crap and Like it :):):) Doesn't mean everyone has to though.


True enough BUT you don't have to respond to it either.

Opinions are like arm pits ... everybody has them and they usually stink. Except mine ... I am an absolute frikken delight!

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May 23, 2018 11:27:55   #
Laura72568 Loc: Anderson TX
 
Paladin48 wrote:
True enough BUT you don't have to respond to it either.

Opinions are like arm pits ... everybody has them and they usually stink. Except mine ... I am an absolute frikken delight!


You win...you made my day! Gracias.

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May 23, 2018 11:54:56   #
canon Lee
 
Bob Locher wrote:
My major interest in photography is scenics. I love the beauty of the world that is around us. So, I love to look at other people's work as well.

Too many of the pictures I see posted, here and more so on other sites, to my eye have been obviously extensively and excessively worked over in post processing. Colors are too vivid and often unbelievable, edge sharpness is far too exaggerated, contrast has obviously been "adjusted". Often pictures are simply too "cute".

To my eye such pictures are ugly. I guess I'd have to say that if you can tell a picture has been "enhanced" in post-processing then it was probably overdone.

I have nothing against the concept of post-processing and I do it myself, though I am far from a master of it. It can offer wonderful opportunities to improve a photograph, change it to monochrome, remove dust and blemishes, correct color balance, merge photos etc. etc.

But it is and should remain a means to an end, not the end itself.

Is this just me or do others share my view?
My major interest in photography is scenics. I lov... (show quote)


Hi If someone is seeking to create a perfect image using the histogram and LR sliders, this would be an image that, in my opinion , static and uninteresting , But if someone, like myself, that wants to create some interest in an artsy way, then it is pretty much up to me to adjust the image to my liking... I do commercial photography for a living, so my images have to be exact and not artsy...However, I am an artist as well, so I take photos of things I want to paint, and re compose, add things, take things away, to get a composition to paint... It really matters what you are going to do with the images....

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May 24, 2018 11:57:16   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
I agree to some extent. I do see way over processed images - some are fun to look at artistically but others are just plain bad but the objection is broad and rather unfair. If your shooting street, photo journalistic, event, landscape (I think limited creativity is okay for landscape depending on the feel your trying to achieve) or the like, then a photographer should stay true to the scene. However portraiture, as an example, opens up a chance to get creative and fun as in my examples below. Head shot is pretty much as shot the other is obviously not but is it bad? My clients don't think so.
Bob Locher wrote:
My major interest in photography is scenics. I love the beauty of the world that is around us. So, I love to look at other people's work as well.

Too many of the pictures I see posted, here and more so on other sites, to my eye have been obviously extensively and excessively worked over in post processing. Colors are too vivid and often unbelievable, edge sharpness is far too exaggerated, contrast has obviously been "adjusted". Often pictures are simply too "cute".

To my eye such pictures are ugly. I guess I'd have to say that if you can tell a picture has been "enhanced" in post-processing then it was probably overdone.

I have nothing against the concept of post-processing and I do it myself, though I am far from a master of it. It can offer wonderful opportunities to improve a photograph, change it to monochrome, remove dust and blemishes, correct color balance, merge photos etc. etc.

But it is and should remain a means to an end, not the end itself.

Is this just me or do others share my view?
My major interest in photography is scenics. I lov... (show quote)


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May 24, 2018 12:08:35   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
Is this a discussion or an argument...hmmm?
canon Lee wrote:
So true..... The urge to be right all the time is so strong in some people!

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May 24, 2018 12:18:03   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
Hmmm - even the "Shades of Gray" as you put it looks overcooked. (Page-10)
James R wrote:
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I concur.

A LITTLE goes a L O N G way.

ALL of the images that I capture Require that I do some post processing - Because I capture in RAW content. "Over Cooking" ANY image makes it look, Well! Over-Cooked and not a true impression of that IS there.

I do a LOT of "Shades of Gray" and I do capture ALL of my images in color. In the post-processing, and After I get the Color image to where I like it from my notes that I wrote in my notebook, I save that. Then, because I looked through my "Mind's Eye" and envisioned a Shades of Gray as well as a color, I do "Over-Cook" the image - also = I dodge and burn areas that I feel I have a need to. THEN = with the use of NIK Software's "Silver Efex Pro" (I do NOT use the "pre-sets" - I have my own, but that is my choice. I readjust the colors to Shades of Gray. Thus, making a B&W Print. So Some over-cooking helps render the outcome of a Shades of Gray Image.

Keeping the color photo image "simple" is only a beginning.

That is my way of doing my post edits. Others here will, and should, have their own way of doing their photographic art.

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May 24, 2018 12:44:07   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Gene51 wrote:
Post processing comes in two varieties - to correct/enhance what the camera shot.....

.....Then it can be to create an artist's vision - transform what was shot into something more, an artistic interpretation.....


I think that's where the problem lies. Those in the "correct/enhance" camp want to end up with something that looks like a good, well-taken photo without any issues, but those in the "artistic interpretation" camp are all about experimenting with ways to add visual interest, which most of the time will result in the image being taken beyond the "well-taken photo" look. The former will typically look with disapproval at the work of the latter, while the latter see the work of the former as unimaginative and un-creative, and they will see a lot of unexplored potential.

I think there may be a third category - those who for whatever reason have yet to acquire a mature, well-developed eye for what makes a strong or engaging image, but what they do know is that they like an image with pop more than they like the SOOC look. And the PP software is good at providing them with the tools necessary to achieve what the rest of us would describe as an overcooked look. In the right hands, generous amounts of saturation, contrast and colouration can work, so it would be wrong to be dismissive of anything other than a realistic look. Unfortunately, those still at the early stages of the learning curve tend to give a bad name to adventurous processing.

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May 24, 2018 12:51:21   #
Bob Locher Loc: Southwest Oregon
 
I think Gene51's comments neatly sum it all up.

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